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I'm graduating in Dec 2020 and am in rates trading. My manager really wants me to start early in jan/feb/march/april but i'm not sure. What do you think? if i dont start early what should I do with my time off?

Also is it possible to start early then ask for some time off in the summer to travel?

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Sep 16, 2020 - 5:33pm

get the traveling done before... start when your manager wants you to start and travel before that point. If you start in Jan/Feb and ask for 3 weeks off in May they'll laugh at you and then either A) fire you or B) you'll be "that" analyst with a reputation for being lazy/a shithead. 

 
Sep 16, 2020 - 5:44pm

We've had someone do this and it put a blemish on their rep from the get go. You'll 50/50 get permission and even if so it just isn't a good look. When you're starting a new job especially as a junior your rep is everything. You don't want to be that guy, trust me. Just travel before or ask to start 3 weeks later. If you NEED to travel to fulfill some sort of millennial internal vision quest in may, this field might not be for you 

 
Sep 16, 2020 - 5:50pm

idk man, I don't know you, your relationship with your manager whether you interned there before etc. All I'm saying is its covid right now, people are getting axed, firms are on the chop block for head count and my bet is itll be alot worse next year when all this stimulus runs out of juice. I wouldn't want to be the guy traveling after pushing back my start date against the wish of my manager. That is just low hanging fruit to be cut. Do things at your own risk, just understand that you are in a place of legitimately 0 leverage. You've provided 0 value thus far. I'm sure your firm gets buckets of resumes a day of kids at least as qualified as you are that would fly cross country to start tomorrow at 6am. Just remember that as you think thru this. 

 
  • Analyst 2 in IB - Ind
Sep 16, 2020 - 5:50pm

Deleted. I think you’re in a tough position because your manager has asked and knows that you graduate early. I also don’t think it’s fair for people to say you’re being a millennial and entitled for wanting to start later. College is supposed to be 4 years of intellectual freedom and jobs are structured to start post-graduation. Just because you took extra courses to finish in 3.5 years, doesn’t mean you’re obliged to start your job early. Maybe you want to take a semester to travel and explore different cultures or to learn a new skillset. I believe that can be equally as valuable to your 4 year college experience even though you are not in the classroom. I think it is ludicrous for people to say you’re entitled for wanting to start on your originally agreed upon date. You took extra credits in prior semesters to have the flexibility to do what you want with this semester. You could stay in college an extra semester to graduate with your friends and take relevant electives if you want. I don’t think anyone would be calling you “entitled” if you decided to stay for all four years even though you had the credits. Is everyone who doesn’t graduate in 3.5 years lazy now? You have given yourself flexibility by working harder for your first 3.5 years of college. No one made you do that and it’s ridiculous to think that you would be “entitled” if you decided to spend you last semester learning outside of the classroom. 

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  • Consultant in Consulting
Sep 16, 2020 - 6:30pm

I have to say, I'm borderline-stunned by how comfortable this guy is with annoying his boss before he's even started. You've got interns here sweating out if they're gonna get an offer because the FT market looks like shit, kids who would would kill to start a FT job early and be faced with the tragedy of having to put a 3 week vacation on hold... and you're doing whatever you can to counter the good advice you've gotten to stop being a diva, put your head down and -- at least at the beginning of your tenure -- just do what you're told. But I guess you should just do what you want. 

 
  • Analyst 2 in IB - Ind
Sep 16, 2020 - 8:21pm

Agreed that now that his manager knows and has asked, OP is in a tough position and saying no would not be a good move to make before even hitting the desk and will probably be irreparable. However, I still don’t believe OP is entitled for wanting to start on the normal date with the rest of the class.  It’s too late, but OP probably should have never mentioned graduating early or should just consider taking easy course load for final semester if it’s financially viable. 

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  • Analyst 2 in IB - Ind
Sep 16, 2020 - 8:29pm

Not sure your relationship with manager and what’s been said, but I am sure you can say you were unable to complete required coursework this semester due to changed scheduling because of COVID, etc. Might be a bit tough though to go back on what you’ve said though. Seems tough to fault someone for completing all 4 years of college, but would be helpful to get more views on this. 

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  • Analyst 2 in IB - Ind
Sep 16, 2020 - 9:01pm

I am also a millennial and have only been working for a year so I am a bit hesitant to answer. Hopefully others can also chime in. Assuming you haven’t had a long back and forth with your manager (so it would be weird to back out now), I don’t see what would be wrong with staying to complete your final semester. I wouldn’t word it as you just want to stay and take classes though. There are plenty of valid reasons for staying (you couldn’t get into course you need, scheduling constraints because COVID, family, etc). I don’t think my parents would’ve even let me finish a semester early to start working...

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  • Consultant in Consulting
Sep 16, 2020 - 9:46pm

So now you're considering starting off your working relationship with a big, four month lie? Yeah, you might not get caught... but your new boss might suspect you're lying... and if he wants to be annoying about it, does a little investigative work and then confirms that you did, in fact, lie, how's that gonna play out? Your relationship with him -- and probably all the other FT'ers because he's telling everyone else in the department -- is ruined forever.

You might get away with it, and maybe he won't give a shit whether you really start early (yeah, he'd prefer it, but how much does he really care?)... but it's a pretty big lie, which makes it a pretty big risk.   

    

 
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