Non-target with 3.8/4.0 GPA vs target with 3.2 GPA

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I am curious about which one is better. I'm a first generation for college and I can't decide whether I should go to a target like Ross and end up with a 3.2 GPA or go to an easier college like OSU and get a 3.8/4.0 GPA. My goal isn't necessarily to get an IBD position straight out of undegrad (though, that would be perfect), but to go to a top business school (M7) and go from there. Any advice would be appreciated.

Also, how is Indiana Uni's Kelley school of business?

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May 25, 2013

Not sure if im correct or totally off base but IMO non target 3.8> target 3.2 especially because alot of targets inflate their grading. I would liken a 3.8 at a non target to a 3.4 or so at a target. Obviously brand name is a huge thing and most everyone would take a 3.4 harvard grad over a 3.8 OSU grad. Not sure theyd take a 3.2 Ross grad over a 3.8 OSU grad though. Just my 2 cents

May 25, 2013

Ross 3.8

May 25, 2013
arguewithatree:

Ross 3.8

May 25, 2013

A lot of targets have grade inflation so it's pretty hard to get low GPAs (Ross being one of those).

May 25, 2013

If there's grade inflation, then I'm sure I could get at least a 3.4 at Ross.

May 25, 2013

Non-target 3.8> Target 3.2..But just get a 3.8 at Ross. Don't choose a school based on what GPA you think you'll achieve. Go to Ross, buckle down for 2.5 years, get a 3.6+, then coast through once you have a SA offer...And Kelley places alright (good for its perceived caliber), there were always a couple of IU kids at the superdays I went to.

May 25, 2013

If you're above average I'm sure you'll get higher than a 3.2. Follow directions and study.

As of 2008 the average UM gpa was like 3.27. I would post link but site does not permit me to do so.

May 25, 2013

Target like ross lol

May 25, 2013

why do you think you'll get a 3.2 at ross but a 3.8 at OSU?

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May 25, 2013

Target. End of discussion.

if you like it then you shoulda put a banana on it

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May 25, 2013
frgna:

Target. End of discussion.

+1. I went to a non-target and have low grades to top it off. My school's name (or lack thereof) has hindered my recruiting far, far more than my GPA ever could. To put this in perspective for you: I have to network for virtually every opportunity I find, and once I get to an interview, the "why x-school?" question always implies "why this weak-ass non-target?"

I think that if the deciding factor is what your GPA might be like, then there isn't even a decision to be made. Go to the target school.

May 25, 2013
Kassad:

I have to network for virtually every opportunity I find, and once I get to an interview, the "why x-school?" question always implies "why this weak-ass non-target?"

You're being overly insecure.
It is a perfectly innocent question and in no way implies that you went to a shitty school, even if you did.

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May 25, 2013
mike50:

I am curious about which one is better. I'm a first generation for college and I can't decide whether I should go to a target like Ross and end up with a 3.2 GPA or go to an easier college like OSU and get a 3.8/4.0 GPA. My goal isn't necessarily to get an IBD position straight out of undegrad (though, that would be perfect), but to go to a top business school (M7) and go from there. Any advice would be appreciated.

Also, how is Indiana Uni's Kelley school of business?

LOL you're going to meet someone from OSU one day and get yourself laid out with that mouth.

Seriously, do you think that OSU textbooks only have pictures while investment-banking-targets get the real ones with numbers and words?

It's the same education wherever you go. The only difference is that targets have more grade inflation, which is why they have over time become targets. If you can get a 3.8 at OSU then you can get at least a 3.8 with the exact same effort at a place like Ross.

However, if you're so stupid that you think that a 3.2 student from Ross would be a 3.8 at OSU, then you aren't going to pull a 3.8 at either one hombre.

All we need to do is show a little class, a little sophistication, and we're in like a dirty shirt.

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May 25, 2013

This guy clearly goes to OSU haha

May 25, 2013
MonkeyInSchool:

This guy clearly goes to OSU haha

No, my degrees are from Texas schools. Just stating the obvious.

All we need to do is show a little class, a little sophistication, and we're in like a dirty shirt.

May 26, 2013

Personally, I'd take a 3.2 at the target because you still have access to a strong alumni network and you never know what can happen with effective networking. Most kids at non-targets are never given an opportunity to show their aptitude, despite many of them being more than capable.

May 26, 2013

Also take into account that if you are anything like most bankers I know, you thrive in competitive environments and fail in environments that don't challenge you. Every non-A I have ever gotten has been in some bullshit core requirement class with a hundred kids that don't give a fuck about school. I'd imagine OSU would be filled with more kids like that than Ross.

May 26, 2013

Low GPA at a target is better in my opinion. Networking will be be easier and you'll have much exposure to firms at Ross.

May 26, 2013

It has been my experience that a good network, supportive friends, and the right last name matter way more than your school or GPA.

May 26, 2013

3.0 at a target. Five years into your career when you're conducting business and people ask you where you went to school, you have a great name to drop. No one asks you what your GPA was...

May 26, 2013

3.0 at a target = 5.0 at a non-target

I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was blaming you.

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May 26, 2013

Not enough info is given as assumptions here.

I'll take the 3.8 in Applied Math at CalTech every day.

May 26, 2013

such a low gpa won't get you an interview on campus unless you know someone in the know because there are tons of 4.0 kids at target schools...

May 26, 2013

2.5 at a target

May 26, 2013
whatwhatwhat:

2.5 at a target

Target dropout.

1-up!

May 26, 2013

Target Cashier? $8/hr plus benefits right?

2-up!

May 26, 2013
djfiii:

Target Cashier? $8/hr plus benefits right?

2-up!

Gold. +1 SB

May 26, 2013

You need to be more specific. I'll def take a 3.0 at Harvard/Yale/Princeton/Stanford over a 3.8 at University of Florida, but I'd prob take a 3.8 at Georgia Tech over a 3.0 at Cornell.

May 26, 2013

Honestly, I would take a 2.0 at a target. GPA is a function of knowing how to study, not being smart. Either way no one cares about your GPA. I've been asked where I went to college a ton of times, never once my GPA.

May 26, 2013

I'll take the 3.8 at the non-target. Your gpa can haunt you or help you in the future if you intend on going to business school.

May 26, 2013

2.5 at a REAL target > 4.0 at non-target

May 26, 2013

out of curiosity, what do people consider to be target schools, and is it clearly defined and understood? is it:

ivies?
ivies + Stanford / Chicago / MIT?
ivies + Stanford / Chicago / MIT + top publics (i.e Berkely, UCLA, Mich, etc)?

or just wherever banks happen to be recruiting these days?

where is the line between targets / semi-targets?

May 26, 2013
djfiii:

out of curiosity, what do people consider to be target schools, and is it clearly defined and understood? is it:

ivies?
ivies + Stanford / Chicago / MIT?
ivies + Stanford / Chicago / MIT + top publics (i.e Berkely, UCLA, Mich, etc)?

or just wherever banks happen to be recruiting these days?

where is the line between targets / semi-targets?

use the search function and you'll find many a detailed discussion on this

May 26, 2013

As someone who goes to a top target, let me tell you, you are not going to get any interviews for IBD with a 3.3 or less unless you are a minority and can recruit during sophomore year or are good friends with a 2nd yr analyst (or above) who can push your resume. Even less than a 3.5 makes it very difficult.
The problem with target unis is that it is so easy to apply that everyone does it...and if a bank receives hundreds of applications through one resume drop they don't really have a choice but to essentially rank them by GPA. sad but true.

This is just for graduate recruitment, i assume later on, your university does become more important than your gpa.

May 26, 2013

False comparison

May 26, 2013

3.0 Target brah

May 26, 2013

id take 3.8 at a non-target.

first a 3.5 gpa is pretty much handed to you at a target (come on guys you know its true) so getting anything lower is pretty sad.

non-target schools have more gpa deflation and from personal experience professors can only give out a specific numbers of As, Bs, Cs, etc. I know Wake Forest has this problem.

May 26, 2013
pikachu:

first a 3.5 gpa is pretty much handed to you at a target (come on guys you know its true) so getting anything lower is pretty sad.

non-target schools have more gpa deflation and from personal experience professors can only give out a specific numbers of As, Bs, Cs, etc. I know Wake Forest has this problem.

False. Completely false.

May 26, 2013
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Get it!

May 26, 2013
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