NYC banking salary --- where does it all go?

A reasonable breakdown for a thrifty analyst during a good year:

$125,000 All-in compensation

  • 46,033 Taxes (29.7% federal/state/city, 6.2% social security, 1.45% Medicare)
  • 19,800 Rent ($1,500 per month) and utilities ($150 per month)
  • 6,000 Food ($500 per month)
  • 6,000 Entertainment ($500 per month)
  • 5,500 Retirement savings (max out Roth IRA, no 401K contribution)
  • 2,500 Travel (holidays, vacation)
  • 1,344 Metrocard ($112 per month)
  • 900 Cell phone ($75 per month)
  • 600 Laundry ($50 per month)

$36,323 Residual (save for home down payment, car)

Note: this doesn't account for student loan payments.

Budgeting Tips for Expensive Cities

  • Live with roommates or in a different neighborhood to save on rent costs
  • Don’t include bonus when you’re budgeting, only base pay
  • Take advantage of meals and rides that work comps
  • Don’t forget to include insurance costs
  • Max out 401(k)
  • Eat in bank cafeteria to save on lunch costs

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Wait, are you serious? Are the taxes really that high?

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Don't create a budget that includes a bonus. You should create a budget off of monthly after-tax take home of ~$3500-4000. You should look at your bonus as extraordinary income and immediately put it in an investment account.

Also, who the hell gets a $2500/mo apartment as a 1st year analyst? Get some roommates and try to keep it under 1800. Everything else at least seems reasonable except entertainment as I tend to spend at least $100 a night when I go out.

 
CodeBlue:

except entertainment as I tend to spend at least $100 a night when I go out.

Agree with this. Dunno how anyone can go out more than once and stay under $200 a month. I budget $400-$500 a month on this in a slightly cheaper city than NYC.

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You will pay something around that in taxes (maybe a bit less, but I am also counting SS in this calc).

Your entertainment/travel budget is probably a bit too low, depending on your friends, etc. Comes out to $50/week, that is barely 1 meal out, let alone grabbing some drinks. But of course that is more of an optional expense.

You will want put something into your 401K

Does your entertainment budget also cover clothing? Cab fares? Subway fares? Gym? etc, etc

What about renters insurance (usually pretty low)? Medical insurance? Dental? etc (at least it is pre-tax)

 

Entertainment is way too low. Even the nerdiest IB analysts I know spend that $200 in one night in the city fairly often.

Rest seems decent, as mentioned above get roomies and you can live in a killer apt for under 2K. Food is likely low too, even including seamless, you'll probably spend at least $50 on lunch during the week plus more for coffee, snacks, breakfast etc leaving only like $20-30 for the weekend/eating out which isn't really reasonable.

 

Check out StreetEasy for apartments. As a first year out of college, I don't recommend paying the average rent for an apartment in Midtown East. If you make a good friend as a SA, try splitting a 1 bedroom. There really isn't any point in having some Patrick Bateman apartment when you won't be spending an abundance of time there. You're better off looking for something safe, clean, and large enough to fit a bed and your clothes.

 

You may want to max out your 401(k) when you get your bonus. Get 2 roommates (even if they're from CL) and live in Fidi, you can probably pay around $1200-$1500/mo for rent. That's just a basic operating leverage lever you have to pull at your age. Out of the $1000-$1300 you save on rent, all or most of it should go towards your paltry going out expense. Part of the NYC experience is going out while you're still young enough to crush it til 4am and still roll into work the next day; certainly can't do that on a $200/mo budget.

 
MidtownParkAve:

Get 2 roommates (even if they're from CL) and live in Fidi, you can probably pay around $1200-$1500/mo for rent. That's just a basic operating leverage lever you have to pull at your age.

Would you suggest living in Fidi even if my office is in Midtown (near JPM Asset Mangement)? I'll be a first year IBD Analyst and not sure if the commute will be too long? Any suggestions?

 

My rent is half what you have. My food is nowhere near 500/month since I eat at the office for every meal. Don't need a subway card if you live near the office...

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You have to admit you're probably the exception with the first one. Do you go out to a decent restaurant a couple times a month? That with some basic shit every week wipes out 500 bucks quickly.

I also dont have a subway card.

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Rent is cheaper because I share with a friend. Most of my friends have rent in the 1200 to 1500 range.

Bank doesn't comp lunch but their cafeteria is way cheaper than outside places, and has awesome food. (Can get a big filling lunch for like $8)

I stock up on drinks and snacks with extra seamless dollars during the week and from the weekends

Weekend lunch/dinner is free due to seamless. And as a 1st year, I have been getting murdered in my group so no, I have not been going out to any restaurants really.

I'd say I spend about $200 on food monthly. Maybe 300 sometimes. Still, that's way less than this guy is projecting.

"Look, you're my best friend, so don't take this the wrong way. In twenty years, if you're still livin' here, comin' over to my house to watch the Patriots games, still workin' construction, I'll fuckin' kill you. That's not a threat, that's a fact.
 

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Rent is cheaper because I share with a friend. Most of my friends have rent in the 1200 to 1500 range.

Do you mind sharing where you live? My office is in Midtown and I'm planning on staying in Fidi for budget of $1200-1500 with a roommate. Do you think that would be too far of a commute? Can you get a decent apt for $1200-1500 in Midtown? (I've never been to North East, so have no clue on commute times for the Subway)

 

Rent is cheaper because I share with a friend. Most of my friends have rent in the 1200 to 1500 range.

Bank doesn't comp lunch but their cafeteria is way cheaper than outside places, and has awesome food. (Can get a big filling lunch for like $8)

I stock up on drinks and snacks with extra seamless dollars during the week and from the weekends

Weekend lunch/dinner is free due to seamless. And as a 1st year, I have been getting murdered in my group so no, I have not been going out to any restaurants really.

I'd say I spend about $200 on food monthly. Maybe 300 sometimes. Still, that's way less than this guy is projecting.

"Look, you're my best friend, so don't take this the wrong way. In twenty years, if you're still livin' here, comin' over to my house to watch the Patriots games, still workin' construction, I'll fuckin' kill you. That's not a threat, that's a fact.
 

Just curious (this is a pretty immaterial consideration/shouldn't make a difference to anyone in terms of choosing where to work, but it's a nice lifestyle perk), but are you at a BB?

All the EB's I know/visited have ridiculous pantries/fridges that no one buys drinks/snacks. I probably drink/eat close to $40-50 of our pantry on a weekly basis. Sucks if you have to buy that on your own dime.

 

Aside from apartment being much too high (1500-2000 can get a solid place w/roommates) and entertainment being low (400/month seems more reasonable), I think this is not bad. Food at 500/month is about right- $60/week (Monday-Friday breakfast and lunches) and maybe $65-70 for food over the weekend seem like reasonable numbers (I'm assuming 1 "nicer" meal over the weekend 30-40).

 

For me, entertainment and food are way lower in your estimates than my actual spending. I'm more in the $800 in food, $600 in entertainment range.

And....

Then student loans suck me dry. You are also forgetting miscelleanous like birthdays gifts/holidays gifts, etc. which add up like bish. Insurance? That's another thousand or so..

Frank Sinatra - "Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy."
 

Rent is way too high. Also, if you are thrifty, I think you could travel on a little less than $2500 (assuming you will even have time to in your first year).

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Was going to mention it, but didn't want to take the time to try and correct it. I don't make IB analyst salary, but my taxes are significantly lower than the aforementioned.

People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for freedom of thought which they seldom use.
 
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C'mon guys, no one's going to point out the incorrect tax calculation?

I suppose the federal rate is a little high. Making $125k will put you in the 28% marginal tax bracket which will give you an effective tax rate of around 25%. I'll change it in the calculation. The state and city rates look right to me.

If you have anything additional to add we'd love to hear it.

 
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Didn't feel like figuring out how to upload a photo, so here's a copy/paste of my tax calc. Hopefully it will look right.

tl;dr OP's tax number is way too high, should be $37,171.

Income $125,000

Tax Bracket Rate Amount
1 (Under 9,075) 10% $908
2 (Over 9,075, under 36,900) 15% $4,174
3 (Over 36,900, under 89,350) 25% $13,113
4 (Over 89,350, under 186,350) 28% $9,982
Total Federal Tax $28,176 (22.5%)

NY State Tax 6% $5,809 (4.6%) NY City Tax 3.5% $3,186 (2.5%)

 TOTAL TAX                                      $37,171         (29.7%)
 

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