Obama vs Palin 2012
Lets say this disaster scenario occurs, that Palin is nominated by the GOP for 2012. Who do you vote for?
I vote for Obama, simply because I have qualms about making a dumbfuck the most powerful person in the world.
Lets say this disaster scenario occurs, that Palin is nominated by the GOP for 2012. Who do you vote for?
I vote for Obama, simply because I have qualms about making a dumbfuck the most powerful person in the world.
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Obama is just as dumb if not dumber..just look at what he's doing now. I don't care if he went to an ivy league school, that's all bullshit. He is unable to put his ideology behind him to do what's best for the country. However, he is probably doing that so the Democrats lose congress and he is "forced" to moderate so he can put himself in better position to get elected for a 2nd term. I vote for Palin simply because I will never vote for a Democrat ever.
I hope and pray to god she doesn't get the nomination though.
man, its a Monday, lets leave the trolling to mid-week shall we?
I would vote for Obama to show the GOP they can't just get anyone elected.
Kind of like the Dem's last election putting someone with no experience up for election.
Palin is not qualified to be President. Everyone shitting on her is off base also. Biden is just as much of a fool. Dan Quayle was an idiot. Not saying we should endorse stupid VP's, but somehow calling Palin the dumbest of the dumb is unfair.
I think Obama will be re-elected. Incumbents have the benefit of office behind them and Obama's numbers are not so bad as to be unable to fix in a relatively short time period.
Palin will never be President. Not gonna happen.
The day a woman becomes President of the US, I will move to NK.
I would vote for her based on her vast foreign policy experience from being governor of a state right next door to putin. I wonder who she'll pick as her VP to run the senate?
I think the intelligence factor is blown way out of proportion when it comes to deciding which candidate would make a good President and which one wouldn't. These guys don't run the country on their own. They have advisors and cabinets, etc that assist them with gaining knowledge of the material information used in making these decisions.
We all know people who can barely carry a conversation but who got straight A's in school and perfect SATs, etc. Then we all know people who are the counter to that. My best friend growing up scored far higher on his IQ test than I did and he never graduated high school and is an assistant manager at a Play It Again Sports. Is he a better candidate for POTUS than I am?
Point?
It's all relative. Palin may not be the intellectual messiah that Obama is/was but she unarguably had more executive experience than Obama had, or even had ever witnessed. Many people chose potential ability over proven ability and we now see the results. And that is not to say that McCain/Palin would have fixed everything properly and that the economy would be perfect, but I do believe that things would not be getting worse at this point and this country wouldn't be printing trillions of dollars. But that is all speculation.
What I do know is that I would take an "average" person with a decent education, common sense and whom I consider a patriot over some overly educated, self-indulged ego-maniac who doesn't know what religion he is or what country nominated him president.
One of the biggest problems with Obama, and the left as a whole, is they do tend to be overly educated, they have this unwavering sense of 'idealism' and, for some reason, they have this belief that they can make better decisions about my life than I can on my own. Maybe that is the case for the (ever growing) welfare portion of our nation but I think most people are better off making decisions on their own.
To the original question: Palin, without a second thought.
Regards
romney '12
Second Romney or Carl Paladino or the most insane candidate standing.
Perhaps the most inadvertent oxymoron I have ever read on this site.
I would vote Palin to refudiate Obama's socialist agenda!
I would also love to see Romney on the ticket (in either role). He's been incredibly successful in business, and did a great job with the healthcare overhaul in Massachusetts as governor. Unfortunately I don't think he has a chance - he's too "slick", he's too "Wall Street", and his hair is too perfect. Average Joe can't relate to him.
I also unfortunately think that the very reason I admire him (his success with Bain Capital and in private industry) is incredibly fertile mud slinging material for people who would tear him down. Picture the ads - "Bain destroyed 70,000 jobs under Romney's direction". It's too easy for the dems to rip him apart, and the average American is too stupid to appreciate how successful he has been.
This sounds like typical "I jerk it to Romney cause he was in finance" garbage. If I'm not mistaken, the health care plan he put into effect in MA when he was governor isn't radically different from the so-called Obama-care plan that conservatives trash.
Not to mention, Romney is a flip-flopper on too many issues to count. No integrity at all.
Also, his cute little speech about his religion a couple of years ago was such bullshit. "Freedom requires relgion." Fuck him and his false ideals.
I like Romney for the most part, except he is far to religious for a president for my liking. I would rather see someone with such power have a more secular mindset when making decisions that impact us all.
In PA I have been seeing Joe Sestack (Sp?) attack adds using his wall street experience against him. America is so stupid. We should have let all the banks fail just to show people how interconnected everything is.
Just like the people who piss and moan about outsourcing, but would blow a gasket if they had to pay the increased price that would be required if it was American made.
Romney will be felled by being LDS long before the issues of Wall Street, Bain, etc. become important. The average GOP voter is suspicious of Catholics, let alone Mormons. He has no shot.
Bloomberg 2012
Fuck yeah, I'd vote for Bloomberg in 2012.
Unfortunately, this country will elect a black man or a white woman into the White House a good 10 to 20 years before they'll elect a Jew.
Your average American is either white white trash, a redneck or a fat mid-westerner.
guys, Pallin doesn't have what it takes to be a president. First of all she has to much negative Pr and the country look like a Joke on the international scene... Just go look at her twitter comments, she is a dumb F. Well i am being impulsive here but the moment she started taking positions on muslims over the mosque issue she lost a lot of credit. A real politician never reveal is clear position, he uses rhetoric. If the republican party nominates her for the elections they will have hit a new low after their last attempt with our fellow monkey :"bush"
"That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances," he said. "This is America, and our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakable."
Obama is a joke. I just wish he wore the big shoes, silly wig and face paint so all the sheep in his flock would figure it out.
Regards
Yeah, I second Bloomberg
Your vote means shit. If you want to influence public policy, make some money and donate to campaigns.
denny crane
I'll be in the Paul crowd again if he runs.
My vote goes to anyone who will reduce my taxes
Rick Barber 2012
Gather...Your...Armies...
BLAGO 2012
YAAAAAY CORRUPTION!!! :)
Obama for many reasons, one of them being that I'd never vote for a woman (unless she had bad-ass military and political experience).
Haha, some people's kids.
Regards
What do you mean?
god i'm gonna GTFO this pathetic country if its gonna be Palin vs Obama. Thank god for dual citizenship!
It would be nice to see Bloomberg run. Like Romney, he is intelligent and successful. He is also less vocal about religion, and is more consistent in his positions. But let's face it, I think we'd be lucky to have either one as a leading candidate. At their core, they're both smart, have common sense, and can think independently (although, at varying degrees). Most importantly, I feel comfortable saying that they both understand how business works, and the type of environment business needs to grow the country as a whole.
We haven't had those basic qualities in a while.
Not sure how being a Nanny State Mayor who changed the rules and spent millions of his own cash to have a third term or how being a flip-flopper to the extreme in the case of Romney make for solid Presidential candidates.
"But ohhh! They were successful in business!" There is more to governing than balancing budgets. Not saying business experience isn't a good thing (I think it's great), but it doesn't mean someone is suddenly super qualified to lead the nation. Give me Petraeus before either of those clowns.
I conceded that Romney was a flip-flopper by describing Bloomberg as more consistent. You're being redundant.
You say there is more to governing than balancing budgets. That's true. But there's more gained from their kind of business experience than an ability to balance a budget. You think I'm masturbating to their resumes, but I'm actually appreciating the qualities required of their success. In my opinion, I think they're the most qualified individuals for shaping the rhetoric of economic policy going forward. You may disagree, and that's okay.
Bloomberg is consistent? Consistently switching parties and consistently pushing nanny-state laws. Changing the rules so he could run for a 3rd term and then spending millions and millions more than his opponent to barely get reelected.
Yes, business experience is impressive, but remember, the President's powers are far different from that of a CEO's. Growing a business / making sharp investments is a lot different from dealing with Congress and getting your agenda passed into law.
Was reading up on Romney the other day... his resume is legend.
Let me ask you, then. Which likely candidate do you think is best positioned to shape the rhetoric of economic policy going forward, and why? What about their past experiences leaves you to believe that they understand what an American economy should look like?
Relative to Obama? None of them. The GOP is literally taking a shit and serving it up to the voters.
I don't understand what people expect...honestly. They complain that Obama isn't getting anything done when:
a.) He has (healthcare, finreg, two platforms he ran on)
b.) He has done so much with 45% or so of the Congress doing everything in its power to block his agenda while simultaneously not putting forth actual ideas of their own. And let's be clear, this "we're taxed enough already" rhetoric is a load of horse shit - what new taxes has Obama imposed? The only tax increase on the table is Bush's tax cuts for the top 1%. Republicans insist that letting them end will destroy the economy, yet they REFUSE to put forth a plan explaining what spending to cut in order to pay for them.
Well I have to admit I'm also wary of Palin and the tea party because they're probably racist. I'm indian, not muslim, but I don't think they're knowledgeable enough,like many Americans,to know the difference
Also this is not such a far fetched scenario. The tea party has somethin like 7 candidates that beat GOP candidates in senate primaries. I would love for Romney or Bloomberg to win the nomination, but I have a bad feeling that Palin will win.
That's because you all look the same!
Regards
i'd like obama if it weren't for the high taxes and loony-toons spending levels...he's a nice guy
palin is a stupid cunt
all politicians suck anyways- either you get an intelligent democrat who can't balance a checkbook and cries whenever an underrepresented minority spills their milk or you get a fiscally prudent republican who is also a bible-thumping wacko.
why o why, can't we have a political party that, i don't know, is fiscally prudent and socially liberal?
is it that fucking hard?
I agree 100%. IMO this is one of the reasons why politics is f*cked. Now I can understand why NOT all independent voters are incompetent morons.
We should elect a dead president.
ABRAHAM LINCOLN 2012
The only person I'd actually be excited about would be Ron Paul.... I challenge anyone to name a politician who is more ideologically consistent than that man. Hopefully he runs again, if for no other reason than to question/challenge some of these other dems and repubs (most of whom are hypocritical fools).
If its Obama vs Palin, I'd vote libertarian (like last year), that is if i bothered to vote at all.
Sportsbook.com has:
for GOP-
Palin +350 Romney +400 Huckabee +500 (Sleeper pick: Jeb Bush +2000)
and overall-
Obama -125 Palin +1000 Rom +1200
And yes, I did just post these. The House always wins.
Can't wait for football season...
if Palin wins, so goes the american dream...
T. Boone Pickens
Sarah Palin in the equivalent of Segolene Royale in France and thats not really a compliment :)
obama is a fucking idiot monkey
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