Offer help -- MBB goal
I'm a junior at a top-12 non-target school. My goal is MBB for full time but they do not look at resumes for internships only full time.
I'm currently evaluating two offers. One is an APMM (Associate Product Marketing Manager) position with Google. The other is an Asset Management position with JPM.
Putting aside concerns over which one I would like better, which option would appeal more to an MBB looking for full time hires?
Thanks
Congrats on both of the offers. I'd take the Google one in a heartbeat, because (presumably) what you would do at Google would be much more similar to what you'd do at MBB.
Its gotta be google ... AM would require way too much "spinning" next year during FT mgmt consulting interviews
What does that even mean?
Top 12 school nationwide but a non-target for most major banks or consultancies
Thanks for weighing in, I've been leaning towards Google and agree that Marketing work probably lines up more closely with MBB than AM work with JPM
Go to the place you can have a bigger impact. If you can show that you made specific measurable contributions your CV will stand out and you will have a good basis to showcase your leadership and impact if you interview ...
Comment above isn't even necessary. Google is gold on a resume, especially APMM which is the most prestigious division. You'll get interviews at every place you apply for, I imagine. Congrats
Jumping from markets/investments focused roles (i.e. AM, S&T, PWM) into corporate finance and advisory focused roles (IBD, Corp Strat, Corp Dev, Management Consulting) is not a clear cut transition and has very little overlap... Given that you're gunning for management consulting next year, I can't think of any logical reasons for why you should take the AM job over Google.
I think the Google position will work quite favorably for you next year (great experience, ridiculous brand name to have on your resume, not very difficult to spin "why google?") and as I mentioned in my previous post I think it would be constant struggle trying to convince recruiters and interviewers why you did the AM role but really want to do consulting.
Agree on Google - plus I imagine it'll be a more interesting/fun summer.
Also, I take it you mean Hopkins/WashU/Rice/something similar? Those are all schools where you'd have a good shot at MBB with networking, a good internship, plus the grades and test scores. Two folks in my class from those schools alone.
You hit the nail on the head Peter Gibbons. That's what I'm working towards for my senior year.
I've been a reader for awhile but this was my first post. Thank you all for your help and advice.
Google APMM definitely looks better on a consulting resume. That is not to say that JPM position will not look impressive. So Google from a pure "which one would appeal to MBB more" standpoint.
That said, do give some thought to which one (if either) would you be OK doing full-time. When I was recruiting, I had a return offer from a firm that was my back-up - and while it was third or fourth on my list, I knew I wouldn't mind working there. I realized I was a lot calmer and more confident during cases and the entire recruiting process than my peers who did not have back-ups/did not want to go back to the firms they interned at.
Not top 10? Top 12?
That means he goes to the 12th school. And this is probably the highest from what, 4-5 rankings of this subject matter?
Congrats for the Google APMM. But seriously, there's some insecurity in your post.
Don't try to chart your life like a huge map that needs perfect steps. It's crazy and volatile. Hell, you go to APMM and you love it, then end up full-on with a Marketing job after graduation (or RAMP if you're lucky).
Or let's say you do consulting, hate the lifestyle, then realize you sacrifice so many years of your life for a calculated "promise land" where the grass really wasn't greener.
If you like asset management more, do asset management. If you like marketing, do marketing.
And drop the "top X" shit. No one cares. No one memorizes rankings. And rankings are volatile over the course of decades.
You really went out of the way and put in a lot of effort to find ways to criticize OP.
"there's some insecurity in your post" -> How can you come to that conclusion? He used less than 100 words to state factual information about his background so the people responding could have some basic details to base their recommendations on. You seem to enjoy putting yourself on a pedestal so you can look down on other people... I think there's some insecurity in your post.
Okay so the rankings/top-12 thing seems to really grinds your gears. Good for you... but does it really get you that worked up? I bet you love to argue simply for the sake of arguing.
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Seems like you're the one who's upset. I'm addressing the deeper issues here surfaced through information inferred from the post. Hearing vs. listening. In consulting, that's kind of a common thing. And less than 100 words is exactly that, non-descriptive. Size of school? That affects alumni base. Location? Affects networking opportunities. Consulting is a field of very few players and with higher regard for name brand vs. IB considering the client-facing element of it.
Anyways, if you want to attack me...take it to PM. No need to hijack this thread.
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