Help! Private Equity interview in three days! PE Interview adivce?

I am an undergrad and after some cold calling and networking have been invited for a private equity interview with a middle market pe firm for a summer position. I finally got back home and some time to let of steam after finals and basically hell week(s). I am trying to prepare but this I feel like this will be substantially different from my earlier equity research and investment management interviews.

I have been trying to prepare but am still not sure if I fully understand how to do an LBO properly, I think I got a DCF down. Also, I had a college class which had me do myriads of case analysis but not sure if I could handle something like that or prepare in the short term.

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mrbeancounter:
My PE interviews were more specific and related to practice than my BB IBD interviews. I interviewed at a restructuring PE fund and was asked how I would cut costs at a specific company in a specific industry. I also got a case on which items on a balance sheet would be possible to cash out immediately after purchase e.g. Accounts Receivable.

Thanks but I am still an undergraduate. I don't have any IB experience and limited understanding of P.E. I have done some research on the firm and P.E. in general over the last few days. I never really expected to get this interview and am not entirely sure what to expect due to that. I hear most interviews are based on past IB experience.

 

PE funds also appoint managers to the acquired firms, so they are also interested in people with consulting experience or ex-managers. But this differs from fund to fund.

You should think about why they gave you the interview and play your strengths in the interview. I wouldn't expect too many technical questions in case you've no IB experience.

And don't forget that the business is about streamlining, cutting costs, negotiating haircuts etc.

 

An 8 hour interview, I would say you're pretty much guaranteed to get a modeling test. They're probably trying to consolidate 4 or 5 rounds of interviews. My longest interview was 9AM to 2PM. They kept asking me if I had time to meet with another team member, I kept saying yes. Finally I had to say no, since I had to get back to work for a meeting and they had only mentioned a morning interview. That was a banking interview though.

 

Not to get away from the point of the thread, but how do you guys get away from the office for the interviews? Do you just say you have a dentist appointment or something, because I can't imagine leaving my office for that period of time, without a good excuse.

 
IBPEHFVC:
It's a smaller PE fund no doubt, but I was under the impression that MM would be in reference to the size of deals, not AUM. For instance, the fund where I'm at may be considered small-, or even micro-, cap by AUM, but our deals are in the $100M-$300M+ range with our largest portfolio company at $1.4B equity.

Are you at a fundless sponsor?

 

Def. know your way around financial statements (that should go unsaid). (THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE)

Aside from that, I think I would prep for the following when interviewing.... (these are not in order of importance)

Know recent LIBOR trend and be able to discuss how it affects a prospective investment. Know ebitda multiples for industry that the company deals in. Know industry trends / players for the focus of the firm. Be able to discuss the lifecycle of an investment (leveraged buyout, portfolio company, various exit ops, and time frame over which this occures) and how the firm will increase its equity value. If you've modeled an investment before, I would prep to walk people through the model. If you've only done Wall Street Prep, be prepared to walk through that. Either way, be prepared to discuss what sorts of companies a private equity firm would want to invest in (LBO's require firms with cash flows to service debt) If you invest in stocks, be prepared to discuss the fundamentals of the company (solid management, solid cash flows, product suite, e.t.c.).

If you haven't worked in prviate equity, these may not come to you off the top of your head, but those would be points I would definately touch on in my interview whether I was asked a specific question or not (i.e. I would make sure to work those points in). That being said, I am talking about more of an entry level interview i believe.

 

Totally depends on the firm. I had friends who had to answer extremely technical questions on the spot. Personally, most of my interviews were very high level. Most of the technical aspects related to LBO modeling. Note: This is all for Middle Market firms.

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Not to advertise another site (of which I have no affiliation); but I found this (see below) a while back when searching for the same back-of-an-envelope type exercise. Very basic, but might get you pointed in the right direction.

Keep it simple and be sure to make an actual recommendation at the end, as Dosk has said in his various PE-preparation posts. What good is an insanely detailed and complex model if it doesn't back up an action?

Best of luck to you; hope this helps.

http://www.wallstreetprep.com/blog/?blog_id=36

 

I had to do that for my current job. From my experience the psychometric stuff isn't really something that you can prepare for. It's more of just an IQ test. If you're from good schools and did well on your GMAT's and all that you'll likely be okay. The one wildcard is the visual side of it (identifiying patterns and weird shapes and all that garbage), that's not really correlated to your scholastic abilities as much I think... some people are just better at it than others...

 

be natural and don't pretend you know more than you do. if you're background is consulting, think about why that equips you better than someone from M&A, or vice versa. we're always looking for range of people, who we would like to work with, normally everyone is highly competent.

hope that helps. this is for PE in london, it might be different for US.

 

excel will probably be a quick modelling test. They will give you summary financials and you'll have to build a model making your own assumptions in terms of entry/exit multiples, debt structures, etc.

Just a check to see if you know what is an LBO. Best way to prepare tis to grab a few financial, and building a model yourself. Have a friendly monkey check it for you.

 

I went through a similar process last year as a Sophomore, the call was pretty much a casual first round interview. MD introduced himself, spoke some more about the firm, and then asked me some questions. Tell me about yourself, why PE, asked about my finance experience (non-finance major), etc. and then some basic technicals to see if I understood LBOs. 30 minute call all in all, nothing too difficult.

 
Mr_Bateman:

I went through a similar process last year as a Sophomore, the call was pretty much a casual first round interview. MD introduced himself, spoke some more about the firm, and then asked me some questions. Tell me about yourself, why PE, asked about my finance experience (non-finance major), etc. and then some basic technicals to see if I understood LBOs. 30 minute call all in all, nothing too difficult.

Cool - how did the call startout? I figured since I contacted him and he told me to call him, I should be leading the conversation?

I was thinking of starting by thanking him for taking the time to take my call and then introducing myself and asking him questions.

 

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You could get through the BIWS IB interview guide in a few hours. This covers the basics of how to value a company, how to answer basic accounting questions, etc. Since you come from a consulting background this should probably be sufficient on the finance technical side as they don't exactly expect you to be able to bang out an LBO model with that experience. They're probably more there to hire you for your strategy/operational insights you've gained from consulting so speak well to that.

 
IBPEHFVC:
interviews will be different depending on the size and what kind of shop it is. Nevertheless, if this is for a position straight from u-grad, I would imagine the technical questions would be similar to i-banking interviews and they may throw a case at you which you should be used to with your consulting background.

If its straight out of undergrad, I think you're more likely to get asked how good you are with a telephone...

 

Hi all,

I also have a FoF interview coming up in a few days - and am fairly ignorant about the process. Can anyone tell me what to expect?

Many thanks.

 

We talked a bit about their line of work. They told me how they operate as a FoF, and they also co-invest along side other funds. We also discussed deal flow/size in Canada with the current credit crisis in the states. One of the guys told me that they really havent been affected too much since they are mid-market players. We touched abit on valuation, and some other small topics. They were also nice enough to walk me through a little "PE 101" crash course.

You know, I walked into there VERY intimidated. I was thinking "these guys will look down upon some ugrad 20 year-old"...I almost felt unworthy. But they turned out to be SOOOOO down-to-earth; always smiling, informative, never made me feel stupid when I asked a basic question. All-in-all, a great experience.

 

Probably want to think about how you would look at the value of a firm from a high level. For example focusing less on "oh they have grown revenues at 6.2% for the past 3 years" but rather looking at macro things like market size, pricing power, industry growth, etc. Also probably want to be familiar with how an LBO works if you don't already know. They may throw a case study at you as well.

 

Sure, sorry guys.

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Does this help? If this is still too vague, please let me know if I can PM you.

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So the LBO modeling test was done in the first round? Did they give you intentions of another test for the final round?

If the first round was heavy modeling/testing then expect the final round to be meeting the rest of the team and maybe talking more about your resume/background. Basically more fit than anything. However it's weird for PE shops not to do a full blown case, especially if operationally focused. If you got the job through a headhunter, I would just ask him/her because they usually let you know what to expect in each round.

 

Yeah, they did an LBO test in the first round. I sent them an email asking what the final round will entail. In the first round, they had me do an LBO Modeling Test, as well as a Consulting Type Case Study.

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Okay great then I think the final round is definitely less technical and will involve repeating your story to different members of the firm. In my experience (3 rounds of interviews) the first two were technical/case/tests and the final one was just a "fit check" to make sure you are a fit for the firm and good to work with. I usually meet a lot of seniors/partners in the final round so it's a lot of repeating your story and most of the time the job is yours to lose at that point.

Best of luck.

 

Depending on the size of the group and the fund I would imagine that most of the interviews will be conversational and culture oriented. I assume your first round interview included some technical questions and background discussion to ensure a level of competency? The partners just want to make sure that you are capable, driven and motivated to work hard. From my experience, these types of interviews come down to can this guy do the work, can this guy be an asset to the group and would I be comfortable having a beer with this guy?

I wouldnt worry too much about industry specific research (but if you tell me the PE shops focus I can direct you) but I would reco that you read WSJ, FT, The Deal to ensure that you have a high level understanding of what factors are driving the PE business. For example, a recent article that was very interesting was KKR's discussion regarding becoming more like Berkshire.

The keys in PE right now are the continued absence of financing, general absence of investment exits (although I suspect that IPOs will heat up in 2010), depressed IRRs due to less leverage and longer hold times, most PE shops are focused on cost-cutting and refinancing debt and stewarding their portfolio companies

If you have specific questions let me know. Good luck.

 

Thanks for your answer!

Yeah got a few technical questions during the first round as well as fit questions. So it is also my impression that the chance of getting more tech questions is slim.

Is it "normal" in a smaller PE firm that you almost meet all the partners during the interview process? Guess the personal relation means a lot. Right now I am working in Fortune 500 company, so its quite different from what I am used to.

The PE firm has just closed its last fund, so it has actually managed to get investors to commit enough funds despite the crisis. What are good questions to ask the managing partner? Guess they should be pretty high level - could I ask something about the investment ethics?

 

Yes, it is very normal for a candidate to meet everyone of a small PE shop. It is almost given that most candidates would be competent workers so there is tremendous on culture and fit.

As far as questions to ask the partners, it's always helpful to scan their website and learn about their portfolio companies, take detail as to how much they invested, how long they've held the company for, etc. Frame your questions around the homework that you've done so that they know you are for real and notice something unique about the firm that others may have overlooked.

Good luck!

 

understand returns and simple cash-on-cash return metrics. know what makes a good company. what diligence questions would you raise. what's a good LBO candidate. etc. etc.

i think the basics would be DCF and LBO... although i could be wrong. I'm just speaking from pre-MBA associate PE recruiting experience

 

I went through a very similar process of interviewing at IBs and then interviewing and eventually taking an offer from a PE firm (I was a consultant).

1) This is the right attitude. You have to assume this is the case and at least act confident that you are qualified to be interviewing there. I think it would be apparent to the interviewer if you thought yourself unqualified.

2) I think the important thing is to have a well thought out answer to the very basic "why PE/why our firm/why Denver" type of questions. Presumably you had similar answers for investment banking interviews, but your answer for wanting to go into PE will be different than IB.

Ask them if there will be a modeling test or case. No sense in assuming there isn't and then being blindsided. If there is a test, be sure to practice putting together a very simple, accurate model. The two keys here are that the model is right and that you can defend or explain your assumptions. If there is not a case, I would echo the sentiment of the guys above that you should still have a good understanding of what is happening in an LBO, what type of companies make a good candidate, and what the buyer is looking to get out of the investment.

3) The skill set you need is very similar to investment banking (go figure). More than just knowing how to put together a financial model, you need to have a very analytical, inquisitive mindset to evaluate deals. Throughout the deal process, you will be in the nitty-gritty details of data about a company's operations, customers, vendors, industry, whatever, and you have to be able to analyze all that information to try and get a clear picture of how the company will perform going forward.

You will be expected to just get your work done without anyone babysitting you. The ability to pick things up quickly, be proactive and anticipate what your superiors will be looking for, and multitask will be important. Also, your work always has to be right.

So In your interview, try to communicate that you are very analytical and can be trusted to own something.

4) It varies.

 
Husky32:
Lol this is the exact question I just posted except for IBD instead of PE
I just noticed it in the new topics. We seem to be in similar situations. Whats your game plan?
 

Just know the usual questions. Walk me through a DCF. Walk me through an LBO. How do the financial statements link together?

P.S. - Don't sweat it TOO much. If you're just interviewing for an SA position, chances are the interview won't be overly technical. If you have a great GPA and the firm is really tight with the people who referred you, then I figure that as long as you seem like a smart kid they can enjoy working with, the job's as good as yours.

 
Angus Macgyver:
Just know the usual questions. Walk me through a DCF. Walk me through an LBO. How do the financial statements link together?

P.S. - Don't sweat it TOO much. If you're just interviewing for an SA position, chances are the interview won't be overly technical. If you have a great GPA and the firm is really tight with the people who referred you, then I figure that as long as you seem like a smart kid they can enjoy working with, the job's as good as yours.

I should have mentioned that this is, in fact, for a summer position. Thank you for the info! Quick question: if asked to walk through a DCF, am I expected to start rattling off equations or simply to know the basic concept behind a DCF? Same goes for LBO.

I'm trying my best to avoid "choking" during the interview since I'm cramming everything and b/c it's not second nature to me yet.

 

I would start with talking theory (you need to know the equations if asked). So start with discussing how the theory of valuing a company is the present value of the future cash flows. The create the model you project out FCF, discount at WACC, which is weighted debt, equity, which you get from CAPM model, etc (obviously talk in much more detail than this). Where knowing the formulas is important is when you get a follow up, "How would you calculate the cost of equity for _______). Then dive into the formula and how the cost of equity is calculated and why.

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Highway Robbery:
I would start with talking theory (you need to know the equations if asked). So start with discussing how the theory of valuing a company is the present value of the future cash flows. The create the model you project out FCF, discount at WACC, which is weighted debt, equity, which you get from CAPM model, etc (obviously talk in much more detail than this). Where knowing the formulas is important is when you get a follow up, "How would you calculate the cost of equity for _______). Then dive into the formula and how the cost of equity is calculated and why.

Get the guide for sure.

This is exactly how you should approach the "walk me through a DCF" question. I absolutely hate it when I ask this question to an interviewee and he just starts ranting in great detail for 5 minutes straight. You should be able to answer the question in about 30 seconds to 1 minute by quickly hitting on the 3 following points: 1) What the DCF actually is 2) What is the theory behind it 3) Why we use a DCF

Once you've done that, the interviewer will start asking the more detailed questions that they want answered (how to calc FCF, what is WACC, tell me about the terminal year, etc...).

 

xyz: sorry to hijack your thread, but I have a second round coming up at a PE firm for an Analyst position (undergrad) and am supposed to take a modelling test. Any idea on how to prepare? Have never built an LBO model in my life b4!!

Thanks!

 
meow1465:
xyz: sorry to hijack your thread, but I have a second round coming up at a PE firm for an Analyst position (undergrad) and am supposed to take a modelling test. Any idea on how to prepare? Have never built an LBO model in my life b4!!

Thanks!

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You don't need to know very technical stuff I guess and go hard in the details of a full-fledged 3 statements model. Try yourself at building a simple income statement + Sources and Uses based model that would answer the question :

"We buy a company with €100m of EBITDA at 8 times. We sell it back next year. Give me your assumptions and what the IRR would be on that transaction."

 

apparently, it's going to be a reconciliation between 3 financial statements, a DCF and some comps. I don't need to build it from scratch and the exercise would take an hour.

Any idea as to how to practice for this? I suppose for comps I could get some public company's accounts and calculate some multiples. What abt the reconciliation bit? In fact, what does that even mean??

 
meow1465:
apparently, it's going to be a reconciliation between 3 financial statements, a DCF and some comps. I don't need to build it from scratch and the exercise would take an hour.

Any idea as to how to practice for this? I suppose for comps I could get some public company's accounts and calculate some multiples. What abt the reconciliation bit? In fact, what does that even mean??

They just mean that they want you to build a 3 statement model (IS, BS and CF). The reconciliation just refers to how the three statements link up (i.e. net income on the IS links into the top of your CF statement, CF calculations come from your changes to the BS, and then your cash on the BS links from your ending cash balance on the CF statement etc.) You'll also (likely) need a schedule tab for PP&E, retained earnings, any debt etc, and then you'll need to build an assumptions tab to project out their financials going forward.

As Simple as said, sign up for Breaking into Wall Street. If you don't have to build the model from scratch and it's only a 3-statement, then you're essentially just creating an assumptions tab and filling in templates (probably far more simply than I described above). BIWS will get you well set up for this.

 

Define expensive...it's $197 for the excel and modeling fundamentals (which I'm guessing is all you need), and what you gain from the course could ultimately decide if you get an offer for a PE gig which is probably going to pay $100k+ your first year.

I'm sure you could find something through google on how to build a 3-statement model, but personally, I think $200 for a clear, concise course is well worth it.

 

As an aside, when asked questions like "where would you invest in?", how should you approach it? I've been scoring the web for recent PE deals to pick an industry that seems popular right now..... but haven't really got hold of a trend (although consumer/retail seems pretty active).

Also, once you think of an industry, how do you narrow down a company? Do you have to walk them through how the company fits the usual characteristics that PE firms look for? How in-depth should we go?

Many thanks!

 

Healthcare and healthcare IT seem to be pretty hot sectors right now. As for a specific deal, check out the Emdeon/H&F/BX and PPD/H&F/Carlyle deals. For healthcare IT deals, multiples are highly attractive, there's a lot of bullish sentiment regarding the baby-boomer population coming "of age" for Medicare, and federal healthcare reform is calling for meaningful use of healthcare IT which is expected to further fuel demand.

This being said, you should also get a grasp (if you haven't already) of the specific areas that the PE firm you're interviewing with focus on. It's good to know the general market and not show like you're just pandering to them, but see what sectors they focus on (if they have a page showing current or past portfolio companies then do some digging into each company) and then go and research at least a few of these industries to see what the general market looks like.

Without FactSet or CapIQ, it might be harder to narrow down specific deals. However, the information is out there, so you just have to look. Without access to Bloomberg or research systems, I'd start with the WSJ.

Hope that helps.

 

It's certainly good to know about the industries they focus on, but I think it's also important to show you know about the rest of the market. If you went in there and only talked about Qwest/CenturyLink, Time Warner/Insight and United/Continental, you run the risk of looking like you only researched one small part of the market in order to pander to them, instead of knowing general trends in the m&a/pe markets.

Definitely brush up on recent deals in their sectors of interest, but have a couple of other attractive/interesting deals in other sectors.

 

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