Poker as Side Hustle

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do you know people or have friends who have full time jobs and play poker as a side hustle? have they seen success in this? do any of you guys personally do it?

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Comments (58)

Apr 10, 2018

It's a serious grind if you mean making real money and not just drinking beer with friends. If you really want to make good money you have to treat it like a job.

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.

Apr 10, 2018

There are tons of people who attempt to play for a living, so unless you're confident that you can regularly out-play (or altogether avoiding playing with) individuals who practice for hours on a daily basis, you'll likely end up making very little (or actually losing) money.

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Apr 10, 2018

A coworker's friend plays poker quite a bit, won a big tournament last year or the year before (I want to say it was a few hundred thousand). I don't know the guy personally, but my coworker mentioned that he played a TON of online poker. I mean, several games going on a couple monitors. I believe it is his full time gig.

Apr 10, 2018

It's very challenging to strike a balance between playing at a skill level where you have an edge and playing at stakes high enough to justify your time investment. You also need a bankroll large enough to withstand the natural variance in your outcomes, which means you need to consider return on capital vs what you could get investing it elsewhere. IMO, until you put in full-time hours for years to really develop an edge, poker offers a poor return on your time and capital invested.

Apr 10, 2018

I know many people who play full time but the question is rather can this be done on the side (part time -- 10-15 hours a week?) and still be successful. Was just curious if any of you monkeys enjoy playing poker enough and admittedly good enough to sustain as a side hustle. The game I'm targeting is 2-5 no limit holdem ($200min/$1,000max)

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Apr 10, 2018

I dont see how you can a) have the time b) get in enough of hands to overcome variance and c) find easy games to beat as a side hustle while doing banking.

Apr 10, 2018

The answer to this has to boil down to the semantics of where you draw the line between "hobby" and "side hustle" and how you define "success". Can you make money playing poker 10-15 hours a week? Absolutely. Is it going to yield a better return than investing that additional time into career development while your money goes to work somewhere else? Probably not. But if you enjoy poker and you'd otherwise spend that time being unproductive, then of course it's time well spent.

A friend who now plays full-time started out playing in his free time while he worked a full-time job in a city with little else to do. He diligently tracked his hours and winnings and saw that he could quit his job if he played full-time, but there was no way he could support himself on the part-time poker income alone.

Apr 10, 2018

+1 well said. I love the game of poker where it is a combination of both numerical analytics and readability on other players. I enjoy playing where I'm willing to spend the hours to play it. I forgot to mention however that I don't play online -- I only play live, which means I travel to the closest local casino to play (1.5 hours away). This doesn't make it any more sustainable since I have to put into account the cost of gas, toll, mileage, and commute time.

Love to play but tough to sustain for sure!

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Apr 10, 2018

This.

While I don't play much now I've had year long periods where I've averaged 30-40 hours per month at around a $20-25/hr winrate (always track your stats). So the math gives me an extra $600-$1,000 in cash per month (plus certain comps and perks from the casino), but as to it being worth it, I'd say no from a purely monetary standpoint. Thing is I enjoy playing, find it relaxing, like the conversation with the many characters you'll meet at a table, and I stay away from the floor games.

In short, the time spent playing could be better served elsewhere unless you're consistently winning in a $5-$10 game, and it's best to keep it as a hobby you enjoy.

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Apr 11, 2018

Thanks for the response. Relating to your last point, are you inferring that it's only "worth it" if you play at the 5/10 level? Is the 2/5 level not high enough to fruit profit where it justifies that it's worth playing and committing to the hours? Just curious

Apr 12, 2018
seville:

I know many people who play full time but the question is rather can this be done on the side (part time -- 10-15 hours a week?) and still be successful. Was just curious if any of you monkeys enjoy playing poker enough and admittedly good enough to sustain as a side hustle. The game I'm targeting is 2-5 no limit holdem ($200min/$1,000max)

You should have 40 buy-ins to justify the stake you're playing at. Do you have 40k for poker? Used to play .10/.25 and had a win rate of about $25 an hour. It's not easy big money unless you're playing wrong and just getting lucky. Also with all the poker forums and huds available online, people are really really good now. Judging by your responses and basing your exp the n that, you'll get shit on (no offense). Live is a whole different game though. Lots of drunk peoPle just looking to have fun. but in live you can't play 6 tables at once, there's no rakeback, you have to tip ocassionaly or look like an ass, pay for gas to get there, and pay for food there all cutting into the earnings

Apr 10, 2018

It depends on your goals and appetite for risk. If you want to try this out, I suggest researching different online poker rooms and their bonus and withdrawal policies. I would recommend the $100 max tables (I think they're $0.50 / $1.00) and adhering to strict self-imposed rules on which hands to bet. I think the average pro plays ~1/11 hands. To distract yourself from being bored and playing shitty hands have some reading or viewing material handy and just pay attention during active hands. These players don't have fully developed playing styles so you won't be able to glean much from intently watching the game progress. There is usually a loose cannon at every table but they'll be easy to spot. This is also a time you could be improving yourself. Watching or reading industry material, catching up on news and journalism, etc... Know when to cut your losses.

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Apr 10, 2018

Agreed with your last points. Gotta know when to cut your losses.

Apr 12, 2018

NL100 regs are rubbing their hands reading this.

Do not jump to NL100 if you're not a good poker player, you will lose your money. At NL25+ you start seeing the first players who are playing for either a significant portion of their income or all of it (full time pros).

"adhering to strict self-imposed rules on which hands to bet." Regs have HUDs that give them stats on their opponents, they will exploit you if your style of play isn't dynamic.

"I think the average pro plays ~1/11 hands." Where did you get this from? This is way too general. What type of players are you playing? How deep is your stack? Cash or Tournament? If tournament, how big are the blinds, how fast do blinds rise, and how deep into the tournament are you? How many people are you playing? Full ring? 6-max? heads up? Even for a full ring cash game, 1/11 hands is too tight. Congrats, you're a nit.

"To distract yourself from being bored and playing shitty hands have some reading or viewing material handy and just pay attention during active hands." That's why you multi-table, one of the big advantages of playing poker online.

"These players don't have fully developed playing styles so you won't be able to glean much from intently watching the game progress. There is usually a loose cannon at every table but they'll be easy to spot." Use a HUD.

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Apr 11, 2018

Yes, I play about 10 hours a week at live NL500.

I doubt you could play part time and make money online at higher stakes unless you have a very strong foundation (i.e. you played online professionally in the past and achieved decent amount of success). The simple reason is that most people that are successful at those levels are studying the game 10-15hours a week to stay on top of their game. If you are only playing 10-15hours a week without putting significant effort to improve you will rapidly be surpassed. I used to be a winning player at NL100-200 online about 8 years ago, but no way in hell would I be a winning player now. I would get totally wrecked as people are just so much better then in 2010.

However, live poker is completely different. My BB/100 is about 8x higher in live games just because there are so many casual players and bad players with a shit ton of leaks. The key is finding a place with a rake that is not too high (very important) and that doesnt have too many good players. Regs are fine, as long as they are not crushing you.

Also, the difficult part about playing live only 10-15hours a week is that you dont get that much volume so in theory you could be in a downswing or run under EV for like 2 months straight... this is why its very importnat that you play at a plce with weak players.

Feel free to PM if you want to discusss,

Good luck at the tables

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Apr 11, 2018

Totally agree on your last point about 10-15 hours not being enough volume to surpass any possible downswings. I've been on huge downswings before and I do believe it's because I just don't have enough hours in there to offset it.

Curious -- are you in the east coast? NYC? Where do you play live? I honestly prefer casinos than house games simply because of the high rake house games charge. And what's NL500? Is that a 2/5 with 500 max buy in?

Apr 11, 2018
seville:

Totally agree on your last point about 10-15 hours not being enough volume to surpass any possible downswings. I've been on huge downswings before and I do believe it's because I just don't have enough hours in there to offset it.

Curious -- are you in the east coast? NYC? Where do you play live? I honestly prefer casinos than house games simply because of the high rake house games charge. And what's NL500? Is that a 2/5 with 500 max buy in?

I think he means $500BB.

But, make sure you have very few leaks as they could destroy you. As he said, it's important to have a good foundation.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Apr 11, 2018

Makes sense - thanks

Apr 11, 2018

Im in Canada right now and I mostly play in Casinos, its super fishy especially on Thursdays. However, the rake is very high so I can only Tight Aggressive... I personally prefer Loose Aggresive, but the rake really eats into your winnings by playing so many pots.

Yes NL500 is 2/5 with 500 max buy in, but some tables let you buy in for higher then 100BB.. I call anything with a 5$ big blind as NL500 or $10 big blind as NL1000... dont remember what the exact terminology is though. Honestly the deeper you can play the better as it gives you much better implied odds versus fish and allows you be somewhat more flexible on preflop hand selection.

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Oct 3, 2018

NL500=2/5 live (2.5/5 online). Comes from online, where NL2 refers to 1c/2c, NL100 $.50/1, etc.

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Apr 11, 2018

I think designing and maintaining a poker bot is a more realistic side hustle for someone in finance. Look up 'Libratus' for some inspiration. The problem is, most poker sites strictly prohibit bots.

Apr 11, 2018

I play maybe 5-15 hours a week and work full time. Finding a game with decent stakes(5/10, 5/5, 5/5/10) and rake in line that you can make money is key first. I like the action and the line up a few places offer in Houston. However I walk in with the goal of 1) having a good time and relaxing 2) winning. I win often and a lose at times but nothing that is changing my daily life.

An attempt to make it a profitable "side hustle" is just more time and focus I care to give.

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I think your biggest challenge will be how far away you live from the poker room.

I would say I play full time and also work full time in REPE in a major market. Makes it much easier that the casino / my office / my condo are all within a 15 minute of each other. I try to shoot for 100 hours a month but have been averaging 125 - 150 the past 6 months.

I play 5 / 5 and 5/10 NL along with some PLO if the games are good. You can definitely make a decent living if you put in enough hours.

I have thought about playing full time in the past and have made a significant amount playing poker but definitely enjoy the fact that I don't have the burden that my poker income has to support my daily expenses.

If you enjoy the game doesn't hurt to start tracking your sessions and start studying when you aren't at the casino. There are plenty of poker videos and vlogs out there that are interesting content. I personally like the two below.

https://www.youtube.com/user/CrushlivePoker https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLTP4Ns4v8EsVS0DV...

Feel free to reach out if you have any other questions. Always love talking with other people about poker strategy and hands.

Apr 11, 2018

I played back in 2006. Was slightly profitable. Wasn't even a side hustle. Just something I did a little in college or during breaks.

Back then I think it was easy. Now I would guess the level of competition is better.

I would agree on casinos being easier games. Daily fantasy ran into the problem of bots and mathematicians winning too much too which then knowed out the punters who lost too fast and didn't have fun to keep playing. Online poker I believe suffered something similar.

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Apr 11, 2018

It's too hard now. I used to make good money playing multi table online, but player skills skyrocketed across all levels, and that doesn't even account for the bots that are getting better every year.

You won't have the time or schedule predictability to grind live games while working banking.

Apr 11, 2018

I am a very big poker player and play $6-8k in buyins on sundays on online tournaments on America's CardRoom and Bet Online. I take 2 weeks off work every year to play in the World Series of Poker and I've done very well but I have studied and analyzed the game for years. The thing, it is much harder and the level of study and time you need to put into it to be a winning player is really a lot at this point. You have to really love it. The best time to start is obv HS/College when u have the free time.
If you have the passion and are reasonably smart, you will do well eventually but there is always variance, as noted above, so its just not consistent cash flow.
Hope this helps.

Apr 11, 2018
qwerty201079:

I am a very big poker player and play $6-8k in buyins on sundays on online tournaments on America's CardRoom and Bet Online. I take 2 weeks off work every year to play in the World Series of Poker and I've done very well but I have studied and analyzed the game for years. The thing, it is much harder and the level of study and time you need to put into it to be a winning player is really a lot at this point. You have to really love it. The best time to start is obv HS/College when u have the free time.
If you have the passion and are reasonably smart, you will do well eventually but there is always variance, as noted above, so its just not consistent cash flow.
Hope this helps.

$6-8K tourney buy in on ACR? The $1M Sunday tourney is $265 and I dont see entries higher than $1K on there usually.

Also, why do you play Bet Online? I played in 2015 on there when I tested out about 6 sites and really didn't like it. I had to cash out on a Money Gram at the time, lol. Interface was bad. Low volume, etc. Has it changed?

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Apr 12, 2018

I play the $109 200k warm up (usually 2-3 entries cause bust out and re-enter), $215 $150k special (usually 2 entries), $265 $1M (could be up to 5-6 entries lol cuz re-entry period very long), the $109 $25k Turbo (2-3 entries), $160 $30k (3-4 entries), $530 High Roller (1-2 entries), $215 $50k (2-3 entries)... it adds up quickly but the total buyin's get pretty high.
Bet Online has awful players and u can deposit and withdraw via bitcoin!! so easy and quick now. They have pretty big tournaments on sundays too now bc of ease of deposit/withdrawal

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Apr 12, 2018
qwerty201079:

I play the $109 200k warm up (usually 2-3 entries cause bust out and re-enter), $215 $150k special (usually 2 entries), $265 $1M (could be up to 5-6 entries lol cuz re-entry period very long), the $109 $25k Turbo (2-3 entries), $160 $30k (3-4 entries), $530 High Roller (1-2 entries), $215 $50k (2-3 entries)... it adds up quickly but the total buyin's get pretty high.
Bet Online has awful players and u can deposit and withdraw via bitcoin!! so easy and quick now. They have pretty big tournaments on sundays too now bc of ease of deposit/withdrawal

ohhh ok cool

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Apr 12, 2018

It was a pretty sizable side hustle for me for years making six figures but looking back I would rather have had that time building up my career equity and focusing on more scalable goals.

I still play now and then but I strictly treat it as sport.

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Apr 12, 2018

When was this? poker was much different in early 2000s and easier to crush. You regret focusing so much on it? What would you be doing now that is different that u cant do cuz focused too hard on poker?

Apr 12, 2018

2005-2011. I wouldn't be doing anything different but would be 5 years ahead in my RE career and a lot more deals under my belt and possibly doing my own deals 100%. Right now, I'm a bit aways from not needing the day job.

Apr 13, 2018

Oh I see. Yea I could see that but poker must have been a cool experience. What is an amount that is one where don't need day job?

Apr 12, 2018

I had considered doing this. Plenty of local poker places around SoCal.

Also, what's there to regret? Money is money.

No pain no game.

Apr 13, 2018

also, what are everyone's favorite casinos?

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Apr 14, 2018
seville:

also, what are everyone's favorite casinos?

I like the Seminole Hard Rock in Hollywood, FL. Its not too far from South Beach Miami and they have some good tournaments there.

http://www.seminolehardrockpokeropen.com/
https://www.seminolehardrockpokeropen.com/lhpo/201...

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Apr 16, 2018

I actually just came back from a Miami vacation and went there. Solid casino. I hit the high hand bonus and took down $500 :)

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Apr 14, 2018
seville:

also, what are everyone's favorite casinos?

I'm headed to Melbourne Australia next week and plan to stop by Crown Casino. It is the biggest casino in the country (and southern hemisphere). Should be cool. I'm probably going to play some tournaments. I'm pretty excited.

https://www.crownmelbourne.com.au/

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Apr 14, 2018

Go during long weekends (memorial day, labor day etc).
Lot of drunk loose money easy to clean up.

I only play 2/5 and 5/10. There is probably 7-10 of these weekends in a year, and you can play 2 out of Fri/Sat/Sun.

Decent chunk of change for a "side hustle" that doesn't take up too much time.

Apr 14, 2018

Yeah, know some of those but they are not nearly as successful as a friend who earned all his money with poker since around age 20. Well, poker after all needs a combination of willingness to take a risk and counting/bluffing, so i guess some mutual traits are automatically connected with it. ;) Personally i only play it with very low stakes, more about learning how the minds of other people work.

Apr 15, 2018

Met a guy who has been playing pro for 15 yrs. He plays 5/5/10 PLO at Commerce in LA and said the range of earnings for those profitable is 3BB-14BB/ hr ($30-140/ hr)

Apr 16, 2018

My dad is a very conservative guy. Never ever spends money excessively, strictly invests. However, he fucking loves Texas Holdem, and is quite good at it. He is a partner at his firm so he would oftentimes leave work early on Fridays and in these large weekend long tournaments, whereby the winners get a shot at the world series of poker. Funny enough, my dad strictly goes to bed before 930. The issue was that these tournaments would oftentimes end around 3-4 AM, and the next days events would start around 5 PM. He stopped due to the hours, but still wins enough to pay for his entire trip to Vegas every time he goes. I have to imagine he is up 50-100k throughout his life (entrance fees are typically sub 2k).

Apr 17, 2018

Good stuff! Do you personally play? Would be pretty awesome to play a game of poker in the same table with your dad. Regarding tournaments, hours can be brutal. Even worse is when you bust out without cashing after committing to 12 hours + of play.

Apr 17, 2018
seville:

Even worse is when you bust out without cashing after committing to 12 hours + of play.

Yeah that's rough. That's one of the strong parallels to trading. You work all day at times and lose money ... sucks

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Apr 17, 2018

I do, although I am not that good. For me, holdem is a game I play to unwind with friends (e.g. $10 buy ins) and to shoot the shit. I have not developed a skillset that would allow me to place well in tournaments, but as I get older I will try to go to some with my old man. I think the key for him is to enjoy the game regardless of the outcome (the main exception being playing 12 hours with strictly shit cards). He doesn't drink when he plays, as he is there to win. However, after just coming up short when doing well, he laughs it off and doesn't get frustrated. I think this is the right mentality, and the one I hope to develop as I play more competitively.

Apr 17, 2018

Well, I got to Melbourne today after a really long itinerary (I was in DC last week and left DCA Sunday night (4/15) and went DCA-LAX-MEL, arriving Tuesday morning (4/17).

I couldn't check in until 2pm at my hotel and arrived at 7:30am, so BSed around and decided to play a $60 AUS Noon tourney at Crown today. I prefer to play $150 and up because the lower entry fees really piss me off due to the large amount of donks, but they didn't have much. Also, Bells Beach is 11-12ft waves today and 14-17ft waves tomorrow (8-9ft Thursday) and I was very tempted just to drive straight there from the airport to surf, but I thought I was too tired and it would be a bad idea. 4x overhead waves will be insane tomorrow - you only live once... so I will probably go.

So I went to Crown, they gave me $10 free to play on a table game, so I put $10 on black in roulette and won. I took the $20, left the stupid table games and paid the $60 buy in for $40.

49 people entered, it was a 10 second decision clock, 10 minute blinds, which was pretty interesting. I really started to like the 10 second decision clock. It was easy for me. The people really sucked. 6 places were in the money. I got 3rd place but felt I should have gotten first (obviously). 3rd was $355 and 2nd was $550 and 1st was $850. It took a little under 2.5hrs (finished at 2:15pm) to get 3rd, so netted $315 AUS. I tried to keep telling myself 'this is just for fun', but the competitive side of me was still pissed at the end that I didn't get 1st. Oh well. I guess not bad for a couple of hours. Def a good way to kill the time.

I was pretty tired though and it was definitely odd driving on the other side of the road in an SUV. I need a nap...

Overall though, first impression ... Crown Casino seemed pretty nice. Although they didn't have a buffet like some US casinos, they just had a kind of food court. It is also the casino that hosts the big tourney "Aussie Millions." They had all the winners pictures and prize money won on the walls in the poker room, pretty cool.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

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Jul 31, 2018

I played the $250 No Limit Holdem at Harrah's Cherokee (NC) on Sunday.

It was donk city. There were so many donks there. ~53 entrants, $3,800 first place, 6 paid, I got to the final table on one entry and knocked out at 8th place.... brutal......

I bubbled in Crown Melbourne this year and Hollywood (St. Louis). I was happy with my game play this time though, I don't think I would have done anything differently.

I might try to only play GTD tournaments next time (like $100K GTD). I thought it was going to be more people and the benefit of lots of people for me is that a lot of the donks are filtered out by the time you get to the final table or final two tables.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

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Jul 31, 2018

There was this one dude, superdonk, overweight, 50s wearing a red polo shirt that said "Pokerstars" ... hahaha ... he was making the most awful moves, just calling everything and kept hitting a lot of stuff too on nothing.

In one hand, flop was something like 10c 4c 10d and he was holding QJ off and called a large raise in a heads up hand; other guy had 6c7c, turn is 9s, other guy checks, Mr. Pokerstars raises, other dude calls, a nothing river card hits like 3d and he wins with queen high. And pokerstars gives this nod like he played the hand well and is a sage.

Another hand, Mr. Pokerstars raises K rag suited and BB calls in heads up hand and is holding Q rag suited. Everybody has hearts. BB sitting next to me on my right. 2 hearts hit the flop (one is the Ah) raise, call. Then 3rd heart hits the turn and Mr. Pokerstars is holding the nuts with BB as second nuts. River hits, nothing card, not a heart so BB probably is thinking Mr. Pokerstars has a strong A or some kind of A and his second nuts are good. Or hoping. They bet heavy and Mr. Pokerstars nearly wiped out the dude next to me, which sent him into a 30 minute cussing tilt. That was annoying, so I put on my oversized headphones for a bit with this nonsense. The dealer actually threatened him about the cussing and to stop, but then he cussed out the dealer and the dealer didn't do anything and just took it. What an ass. It was an unfortunate hand for him sure, but it wasn't even a real bad beat or anything. He wasn't even light bitching like Phil Hellmuth, he was really cussing. Like a crazy person. I was hoping to profit off of his tilt, but never got in a hand with him.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

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Sep 12, 2018

Going to Borgata next week to play some poker. Pretty stoked! Anyone been there?

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Oct 3, 2018
seville:

Going to Borgata next week to play some poker. Pretty stoked! Anyone been there?

yeah i made 250 there in an hour on the 1 / 2 tables this spring - pushed someone off of trip 10s on the flop

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Oct 3, 2018

I'm hitting up New Orleans for a Half Iron in 2.5 weeks - so looking for tourneys down there

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Oct 5, 2018

good luck buddy!

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Oct 5, 2018

This point gets rehashed a million times, but the games are so hard and unprofitable nowadays that you have to sink an enormous amount of time into the game, most professionals would suggest half a decade or more, if you treat it like a full-time job, to become a consistently profitable player. If you put that amount of time into anything else, like even starting a small business, you'll probably have more success than in poker. For most people, filling out online surveys for cash probably has a higher expected value than learning to play poker will.

Dec 4, 2018

You need to bluff more

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Dec 4, 2018

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

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Dec 9, 2018

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Dec 9, 2018

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee