Poll: Which would you be?
I observed a poll on here that asked questions such as what would you rather be A, janitor at goldman to E: M.D. at Piper Jaffray.
The poll seems unrealistic though so i'm creating a new more "realistic" version since everyone would pick IBD over any janitor roll so here it is
WHAT WOULD U RATHER BE:
A: Risk Management at GS/MS/JPM
B: Capital Markets at non lower BB (like Citi or something)
C: S&T at lower BB with office non-NYC (such as UBS stamford or something)
D: IBD analyst at Jefferies/Piper Jaffray
E: Starting off as an associate ibanker at no-name/shady/small boutique
give reason why
D
It all depends on your long term goals. I may want to exit to PE. I would rather go with option D. I feel like all others would set you back a couple of years..
Does PJ exit to PE? what is it like 50/50 shot?
I honestly do not know. I just assume the skills learned on the job as an analyst will be more marketable that those gained in S&T. If it were me, I would take the PJ offer, use my university contacts to network like hell, and make the transition to a small or medium size mm pe firm.
if i were to go into a hf, i'd do capital markets at a bb.
if i were to go into a mm pe, i'd do ibd at jeff/pj (worst case, i can try for hf)
if i were rich out my ass but need a job to keep me occupied, i'd do mo at one of the bbs
Surprised no one is taking the associate deal... what's the terms of this anyways, do I get standard 100k base and comparable street bonus?
I would do IBD at Jeffries
C...Other than not living in the city this is a solid opportunity for a prospective trader.
Definitely D - Jefferies is more legitimate than people give it credit for.
To those two would pick E - are you out of your fucking minds? Being an associate is the most thankless job in the world IMO - you get all the long hours of the analysts, plus all the anxiety and personal responsibility when things get fucked up. Oh, and you don't even get to leave after 2 years, you're a career banker....
Even though they both start with J, Jaffray is a JOKE
Doesn't FTP pay associates like 10$/hour?
Would go with Jefferies
this post is retarded. get a life/job
C.
D - probably better Exit Ops in comparison... overall
C - would be my next choice... depends which city.
B or C, with a lot of networking to get into a hf.
I don't really know what the exit opps are for B, but I could probably make worthwile contacts.
The most prominent and influential man in the history of the company started off as a janitor
What about Risk Management at GS/MS/JPM? What is so negative about it?
I am finishing a PhD soon and considering applying to such a position.
In such a position, are networking opportunities or exit options less attractive in any way? Is the pay down the road much different?
this is a load of crap, if you really wanted to gauge opinion you'd try and be a bit more objective with the options you provide - "no-name/shady/small boutique" is a highly subjective choice - and no, nobody in their right minds would go to a "shady" boutique whatever that means
It's obvious what you're trying to ask - which would you most be willing to trade - i) BB status ii) target group/function iii) location
Im kinda curious too as to whats wrong in Risk Management?
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C for many of the reasons listed above (I work in PE so this choice would've made mroe sense for me)
Risk management is not front office, but there's nothing wrong with it. Bonuses are just very low compared to bankers (Investment Banking) and the exit ops are not that great. For example you aren't gonna go from risk management to buyside but it's still a decent job.
Anyone willing to share why Piper Jaffray always gets ripped in these forums?
This should explain it:
Damn rickrollers. Hahah
have some saag.
I'm diggin' your style saag
this is a no-brainer -- 'D'
Easily C. The worst part of being in S&T is (typically) having to work in NYC London or Hong Kong, none of which are known for high quality of life.
If I could work in S&T and live in a smaller/cleaner/more relaxed/higher quality of life city or town all the better.
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