Private Banking Analyst Attire?
What are analysts expected to wear on a daily basis in PB? Obviously if you are in front of clients you would be in a suit but are the entry-level positions also suiting up each day? Question mainly for the New York offices. Thanks.
Suit up every day the first week. Take it from there.
I'm a first year analyst in PB at a BB in Chicago, and it's full suit/tie every day. Clients get walked through our floor from time to time, so everyone is expected to be business formal at all times. I know at my company that applies to NYC as well. I interned in St. Louis and even there it was the same way. You kinda get used to it eventually.
I'll never understand why this question keeps getting asked.
Suit up. Always come prepared. Adjust if necessary.
Done.
I wore a sleeveless cutoff most days. Didn't get a return offer for some reason.
This kind of question gets asked by people who are nervous / excited about their new jobs. First of all, congrats on the job. Second of all, you already know the answer to this question. Suit up on the first day and then adjust your attire based on what you see other people - especially junior people - wearing. Bada bing bam boom.
What do you guys that are in private banking think of the industry? I think the as people age and retire its only going to get better as a industry to be in but I have no idea.
I'm a first year analyst in PB at a BB, and I enjoy the industry much more than I thought I would. It's interesting, challenging, and you learn a lot. Plus banks are starting to put more of an emphasis on it, and it's really interesting to be new to PB right as banks are putting more and more resources into building it up. Bllomberg had an interesting article on this a few weeks ago:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-04/banks-discover-money-managemen…-trading-declines.html
Spent two summers at a PB and currently working in one. Always wear a suit and tie. No excuse to not look crisp.
So many people try so hard to not wear suits...not sure why
I never turn down an opportunity to suit up. That's not even a question or preference, it's a way of life.
neat!
Wear a suit first day. Adapt to what others are wearing. My office is slacks and a button up (normally wear a jacket in but hang it up) unless you have outside meetings.
wear it for sure for the first week
or ask someone who works there
You can go with a good formal attire instead of wearing a suit. Match formal shirts and pants suitably to give the best outlook.
Bankers Clothing Compilation (Originally Posted: 09/24/2006)
Many on the board are building a wardrobe for either IB interviews or full time. The dress at most firms is shitty except for a select few. Here are the tenents of good IB dress: 1. Aviod Brooks Brothers or anything that looks like Brooks Brothers. It is for 50 year old men who lack sartotial elegance. 2. Since we are avoiding the brooks stlye, we must define the elegant styles. The first is British. The second is the traditional american/ivy league look. Brooks is a mix between the two -a bad one. 3. British: Hunstman, Anderson and Sheppard, Kilgour, Chester Barrie...pretty much anything saville row or american bespoke representative of the british look. Think Larry Kudlow. 4. Ivy League: Much like the Eton look carried on later at Oxford and Cambridge. It is how your parents/grandparents who went ivy league used to dress. Its an establishment elite look. Think William F. Buckley, JR., think H.W. Bush, John Bolton. It is traditional ivy league but modern. Go to Polo, JPress, Ben Silver...
-Brooks is a mix between the two that comes out very bad. It is not British nor Ivy League. Both are distinct and deserve to stay that way. Dress well.
your next thread is going to be about shoes...isn't it?
D. Bush - You are such a loser. I come on this forum every once in a while for decent professional advice, but your constant posts about materialism lead me to believe you are the most insecure fuck who has ever lived. Go to therapy ASAP.
if you dont like me or my posts then dont waste your time responding. people ask these questions all the time. it is IB relevant. If you feel my adivce is inaccurate than indicate so. If not, then shut the fuck up and sit quietly in the corner- child.
Dan, grab a big spoon and eat out of my ass.
You guys are real mature. Real first class acts. Elegant gentlemen you are. I wish I was you. I wish I was like wasting time and flashbang. I wish I was 17 again. A 17 year old loser behind a pc screen hoping one day to be an investment banker. I don
Hahahaha.
Actually, you wish you were like the other 2000 analysts working in IB who find better ways to spend their time than posting on a message board. Talking to their colleagues for example.
You know, so you're not some 23 year old loser who spends the vast majority of his day on a message board posting about what kind of cufflinks he wears.
The kind of person who no one wants to talk to.
To each his own, indeed.
Speaking from experience, when you are work 350 days a year for an average of 15 hours per day, taking an hour a day to chat on a message board is not all that bad. Others will chat with the monkeys in the next cube, some get on ventrillo, others go sownstairs and smoke. Most of the best analysts when I was in banking would have some distraction going to keep them sane.
it is something to do while working. many sites are blocked so i cannot search the web. let me assure you that every analyst has something divergent to do, most read message boards and dick around.
What is the most common color: grey, navy, or charcoal? Also, which is preferred, three or two button?
Dan is quite ostentatious but I kind of like his individuality.
i think you are giving dan too much credit
monopolisf has it right. as an analyst you need to strike a balance. you have to stand out, but you cant be a douche. the balance you strike has two parts. dress and attitude. when you dress, dont wear brooks and "fit in," but at the same time, dont wear purple shirts and guido yourself out. with regards to arritude, dont be a submissive fuck, but dont be overly assertive, for you are a monkey. anybody in college with a brain can do your job. Balance it out.
Aspiringmonkey, why dont you just leave me alone? Please let me have a conversation with another. Thanks much. Dan Bush
well dan, if you want a private "conversation" you can use the pm feature, so for now you are stuck having to listen to my opinion.
and you talk about needing a balance between standing out and not being a douche...well I hate to break your bubble but I think you crossed over into the douche category.
I personally don't have a problem with you, I know your type, but numerous other people do
Well, any comments posted should be on-point. Let us try to keep the conversation structured. You and your pals are some discursive individuals.
You should take some of your own advice and stop trying to hit on every female that posts on this board (Mis Ind, for example). The government should consider creating an e-restraining order for people like you.
Before you vehemently deny this claim, look through some of your past posts.
Stop talking to me. You are obsessed with me. I don't love you.
I will continue to talk to you solely because it annoys you.
You suck at life.
Dan is the new zala - the social outcast who is incapable of making/maintaining friends.
I need some new suits. $2,100 a pop for Zegna at Neiman Marcus is killing me. My ex girlfriend lives in NYC and I visit her all the time (what can I say...she still loves me 8) )...any ideas for bespoke in NYC for $2K per suit?
Thanks.
Sam
zegna is rubbish...rubbish cut, rubbish couture...only morons who know nothing about couture buy zegna and armani and the rest of that shit (boss as well is rubbish) for 2K, if you're smart you can get 2 suits both 2 X better than zegna...thats 4X times the suits... look for smaller couturiers, go to little italy...i dont know...but not zegna, and not @ 2000$..their suits are worth 600-700 at best
I'm thinking about passing through Bloomingdales on my next trip.
NYC bespoke will run you 3-4k. For 2k you can go off the rack saville row. Kilgour has OTR for like 2k us dollars.
I'm a tall thin guy so they fit well and I think they are a great look...they just aren't that agressive...more "elegant."
One of the reasons I like Canali is because the shoulder construction seems to exude,
"If you don't stop looking at me, I may proceed to end your life in a timely and highly efficient manner. Furthermore, I may also decide to end the life of your loved ones as well as your pets."
if you want a dont fuck with me suit, canali will get the job done. brioni will do it even more
Bespoke brioni shirts will make your platinum amex cry.
Really love Brioni ties. Just don't care for most of the designs I see from Talbott, Zegna, and Canali these days.
Turnbull and Asser is my style. T&A will kick the shit out of Brioni.
I'm still trying to fathom why the hell anyone would spend $2k on ONE suit. It seems excessive, even for an MD.
take pride in your dress. you only live once. its about what makes you comfortable.
By the time you become a senior MD you are a walking corpse. $2K on ONE suit is nothing when you have a limited amount of time left to spend your millions. Hell, slapping $2K on the ass of a stripper in one night is nothing.
Your job sucks. You've traded the best years of your life away to "live the dream." By the time you become an MD...the most significant facets of your world are a)what is the thread count of my suit, and b)why the fuck do my unbreakable mother of pearl shirt buttons keep cracking.
2k is light though. ny bespoke is around 4k. but why do that? get a private jet ride to london and get a 5k Huntsman bespoke.
dan you need to shut the fuck up.
your endless posts on bespoke, brioni, rolex, etc are fucking worthless.
yes, you make all the wannabe bankers have wet dreams dreaming of 2k suits from brands they have never heard before. congratulations.
but you also sound like an absolute assmonkey to bankers.
hey man, if you dont like me, dont talk to me. plain and simple. i question your assertion that my posts are worthless. it seems as though my posts recieve the most attention. Sometimes people need to venture out of the endless game of "how to i get a job" or "how do i interview." i enjoy speaking of the social aspects of IB. Now fuck off douche bag.
yes, we all enjoy the social aspects of banking...we get it, its nice to have money. you aren't the only one with it.
i agree, its interesting to know what other bankers where, if they rock cufflinks etc, but don't be so fucking condescending about it. don't go posting that BB is shit and only T&A and bespoke are for bankers. you sound like an arrogant cunt.
a superficial dbag like yourself wouldn't last a day in my bank.
That's great. I will take it upon myself and assume that people in "your bank" know how to spell wear, as opposed to, say, "where" -fucking idiot.
HAHAHAHAHA. Dan Bush just commented on someone's spelling!! OH MY GOD, this is comedy at its finest!! Dan, perhaps you should learn the difference between "woman" and "women" before doing shit like that.
Say, can you spell hypocrite?
Anyway, you probably work out of some 3rd tier shit fuck hole in the wall.
This thread is humorous.
yup, exactly
so instead you sound like a pompass jackass arguing over brioni, BB and T&A. you must be real cool.
very happy my bank isn't filled with tools like you guys. you guys must be the loner analysts in your class.
Flashbang, you're still around? Shit, I thought by now you would have put your parents out of their misery and pulled the trigger.
Also, stop sending me private messages asking me to "make up with you, and team up against WastingTime." I don't care about you and your 17 year old games.
Is there a general agreement of a color and/or style when it comes to suits for interviews?
Dan,
Yes, I am still around. I just pop in occasionally to remind you of your status as the forum douchebag.
Luckily for you, yesterday happened to be one of those times, when you started making fun of others' spelling, when you can't even spell "know". I don't know how you got into Yale, but that definitely explains the 3.2 GPA.
What it doesn't explain, however, is how you got into a BB, since all the BBs that recruit at my school (yes, Ivy) require a 3.5.
Either way, the way I see it, no one at your bank likes working with you much, so you are usually stuck on here giving us the play-by-play on how you bought your latest pair of cuff-links.
No one gives a shit about any of your topics. The majority of the replies to your threads are insults directed at you. Please, do us all a favor and go away.
Hey IFlash,bang,dudes, That 3.2 gpa got me into Yale and Columbia Law. Hahaha, fuckinh idiot. Tell me jeeves, have you ever taken Orgo, real analysis, axiomatic chem, or maybe Mech. phy III? Prolly not. -Sociology major, math and physics minor. Save your judgements for people you know. God I love how you keep stepping into it. Message board big guy. How I love technology.
Dan,
None of what you say is true, and no one believes you. Hell, no one even believes that you work in a BB because you are such an annoying fuck. Like you said.. it is a message board. How about this:
I was accepted into Harvard Law when I was 14 years old. Prove me wrong. In fact, I am Henry Kravis' bastard child, and am set to take over KKR as soon has he dies. I study "axioimatic chem" for fun in my spare time.
So anyway, I'm just saying you probably should have taken some basic english and writing classes along with "Orgo, real analysis, axiomatic chem, or maybe Mech. phy III".
You might be smart, you might be retarded. One thing is for sure though: You are a douchebag.
If nothing I say is true why do you keep responding to me?
The moderator has just informed me that flashbutt attends Riverside Central State West University. Congrats. on the 3.5 at RCSWU. Crabcakes and football, thats what Maryland does.
Real swell job of reading comprehension there, chief. I think that's what Columbia Law found most attractive about you.
You are the most discursive human out there. I guess you are the spelling police. You may want to think over your desire for IB. I would say you have a bright future ahead of you in elementary education.
Yes, because proper spelling is really frowned upon in IB. They just HATE it when people catch a spelling mistake.
Speaking of which.. what do you make of this?
No, stop PMing me. I do not want to flash you. And no, I do not want to bang you. Man dude, bros and bros that's what flashbang does.
Don't ever talk to me about what is proper in IB. You are a skinny fuck who attends RCSWU. Additionally, fuck face, stop idolizing me. Stop finding my posts and copying them. I don't love you. I am not homosexual.
Dan, you are not in IB. Stop lying. Go back to pretending you got into Columbia Law.
Stop making stupid pointless threads/posts so I can stop mocking you.
You're right, i'm not in IBD. I am a worthless fuck who attends RCSWU who happends to be 6 feet 100 lbs. Go jack off onto your computer screen and stop harrassing me. Crabcakes and football, that's what Maryland does.
Well, see? Now that you admit it, I can't harass (one r) you anymore.
So now that this thread has run its course.. what's your next one going to be about? Designer socks?
Ben Silver socks are quite nice.
I just wanted to know if there were shoes that I could get that dont fall apart if you catually walk in them cole haan sucks
My Ferragamo and Gucci loafers have held up really well.
Crockett and Jones or Edward Green
Gucci is sub-par. Ferragamo is significantly more durable.
go british Crocketts or Greens
Actually I was thinking of Allen Edmonds, they have can recobble thier shoes, Ill get around to them soon enough and see how they hold up.
Are Savile Row tailors considered to be better than anything in New York?
In London people go to Savile Row for suits, and to Jermyn Street for shirts.
What do you suggest for shoes to be worn with jeans?
Black or brown? Tie or slip on? Which make?
it depends on the savile tailor. Huntsman is the best suit you can buy anywhere. Longsdail in NY is quite nice. Diminishing marginal satisfaction is a major influence in suits. bespoke is so nice, it gets to a point where the only thing that distinguishes the best from excellent is the brand.
i dont know, i am not a fan of anything but dress fashion. for casual looks i am clueless.
I get my suits tailored for $400, You just need to go there once and unless you put on weight you can just order what you want over the phone. Its all cashmere and silk you can look like John Gotti if you want.
and while there, you can try some Muay Thai boxing!
Are you making fun of my culture? Because that's really not cool if you are. You should probably be ashamed of yourself.
You're Thai, BigDutch? Cool if so; most Asian ibankers I've met are are of Japanese, Korean, or Chinese ancestry.
Maybe he's just a Muay Thai enthusiast. Given the intensity of flames on this forum, he'd probably have been more vulgar had he been trying to make fun of Thai culture.
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