Spring Week - Ask me anything (Q&A)

Hi guys, I have been reading this forum for quite some time and finally decided to do my first post. While I was reading through the materials, I always found the Q&A extremely useful. So although I don't have a lot of experience I thought of addressing a topic often forgotten -> Spring Weeks. I found out myself that it is really hard to find information for them so I though of launching this threat especially useful for the youngest members of this site. Earlier this year I completed a Spring Week at a top 3 (GS MS JPM) firm in the investment banking division. Just ask me anything you always wanted to know!

 

Yes indeed, it was in London!

Yes, got an offer!

Goldman pays, while MS and JPM do not. However, you get your costs reimbursed for flight / train and accommodation is provided.

Definitely many of people from non-target schools, although most were form the classic UK target schools. UK mostly Warwick LSE Oxford, but also people from Germany, Netherlands, Italy, and France

 

This probably wasn´t the best answer to stay anonymous. I can already tell which one you completed.

Don´t say this in a banking interview: Which superhero would you be and why? I want to be like Robin Hood, stealing from the rich and giving to the poor - me.
 

Thanks for the AMA and congratulations.

I'm enrolling at a UK 'target' university next year, but I have no relevant work experience. So my questions are...

  1. Did you have relevant work experience before applying?
  2. If yes, how did you manage to get work experience?
  3. Do you think A-Level results were taken under consideration, assuming entry requirements were met?
  4. Rough-breakdown of university representation
 
  1. yes I had an internship in AM + activities in different societies at uni and back in high school

  2. I applied to many AM and luckly got a spot at a very small and unknown firm, however, better than nothing ;) I would recommend to be very active at different societies/clubs at uni. e.g. investment club, debating etc. I had some experiences from high school and uni I could add. Keep in mind that the banks now you are a first year student and they don't expect you to have interned at Blackstone before applying.

  3. I think A level results matter a lot! after all if you are a first year student your have almost no track record at university and your grade list only includes some easy introduction courses. I have a really good high school diploma and I think that helped quite a lot.

  4. I just checked the list of our participants: 60% of the students were from UK universities, mostly LSE, Warwick, Oxford, Cambridge but also "lesser" known UK universities. For the other 40% it was really mixed, a lot of European target unis like Bocconi, HEC, but also here many different universities were present

 
Best Response

In Europe SW are one of the best paths into IBD so a thread like this is gonna help many prospect monkeys. The whole point of this forum is to educate people so if you don't want to read this thread don't bother people that value it.

if you are really bored you can always start a new thread "cocky associate that has the urge to make fun of less experienced people because that's how he is treated at work - Ask me anything" I have the feeling it would be a great success....

 

Agreed. Spring Weeks in the UK are crucial in getting summer analyst interviews/internships. More often than not, most analysts will have followed the SW --> SA --> FT route into IB.

I would go as far as to argue that getting a spring week is the equivalent to the networking that is required in securing a SA internship in the US.

It's not the be all end all, but I'm sure this thread could be very useful for anyone starting university in the UK, with a mindset of getting into IB.

 

on the last day of your SW you are going to have a few interviews. based on your performance during the SW and the interviews you will get invited for an AC a few weeks after the SW. The AC is quite standard and I would compare it to the standard AC in autumn although it is a bit less heavy on the technical part. If you perform well there, they'll make you an offer. I would say that the ratio between SW-AC-offer was around 4:2:1, meaning that they always cut the group in half. I heard that at some firms the ratio is a bit better, meaning that more people get an offer.

I would not say that the recruitment process is much different than for SA internships. Meaning that your will have to be prepared for the same kind of questions, however, I have the feeling that they are much more relaxed on technical questions. It is important to prepare these things before the SW, during the SW you will not have much time. Try to find as much information as possible before coming to the SW, read up deals and try to find people on linkedin if they are scheduled to host a presentation. For example, I researched one specific deal thoroughly because I thought it was really interesting and during the SW two guys from the team that worked on that transaction were holding a presentation (was lucky on this one). The presentation was a case study about the deal followed by a discussion. Of course, I had a huge advantage over other students as I could remember many details that others didn't even know about. So don't forget this kind of research, don't only prepare "your story".

During the SW just always be proactive and listen carefully. Even when you don't like a certain presentation of a certain group try to participate as much as possible. Obviously always ask questions, but ask good questions. The most annoying SW attendees are those that just come up with some BS question because they somehow think that asking questions increases their odds of getting an offer. I strongly advice against it. People will realize whether your have a solid questions or whether you are just BSing. Some presenters told me first hand how much those people annoy them. Thus ask questions, but only if you really have a question!

 

I came back with a few more questions...

  1. Do you have any general tips for SW applications?

  2. How early did you send SW applications in?

  3. Is it true that the chances of getting a SA without a SW are almost zero?

  4. What do bankers in the City think of brexit?

 
  1. in general keep it simple and stick to the tips and tricks for summer internships. That is what I did and it worked fine. I would't say there is anything special for the SW application. The only thing is that you usually don't have much work experience so it good to highlight any activities (that are somehow related to the job) from high school and university.

  2. I submitted most of my applications around end September - beginning October. I heard back from two at the end of December and ended up getting one offer.

  3. Absolutely not! I really don't think so as the BB need a lot of summer interns every year and the amount of interns they recruit from SW is much much less than that. But SW definitely helps a lot getting a SA because it gives you the opportunity to secure an internship before the SA applications open. And in case you don't get an offer you can still apply to all other banks when the official applications are open

  4. I am not a banker so it's hard for me to answer this question. Generally though my impression was that there was a huge amount of uncertainty and nobody really knew what was going on.

 

Hi and congrats! I have two questions: According to you, what did you say or what did you do during your application (CV, cover letter or even numerical tests (require a lot of prep?)) or during your interview which has allowed you to stand out? How much do you think we must know about the technical field? I know the questions are mainly fit questions but I guess we need to know a few things about the market or the market position of the bank if we apply in S&T? What's your point of view on the matter? Thanks

 

Hey, I plan on studying Accounting and Finance at the University of Bath which I know is a semi-target. I achieved 2 A stars and 2 As at A level in maths, biology, chemistry and EPQ at A level.

I have 10 GCSEs A*-B and a B in FSMQ, a B in English Language and an A in Maths.

I'm just wondering on what I would need to do to prepare now. I've seen this 'spring week' mentioned, but I am doing a 4 year course and I would only be able to do this internship in my second year unless I totally disregard my placement year. I mean, is the placement year really important or??

I also have two other issues....

1) I honestly feel like I have 0 relevant work experience so maybe I should build a profile in first year in order to make a competitive application for spring week in 2nd year.

2) I noticed this on Citi bank application pages: *top three grades sat in the same year and first sitting over 2 years (excluding General Studies). I resat my AS levels, so I have no idea if I should even bother applying to IB?

Thoughts?

 

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