Rank the GOP Candiates

I saw Ides of March this weekend (which I highly recommend) and it got me thinking..Say it was a GUARANTEE that Obama loses in November, how would you rank the current Republican candidates? Mine below, I included Trump.

  1. Mitt Romney
  2. Jon Huntsman
  3. Newt Gingrich
  4. Donald Trump
  5. Rick Santorum
  6. Rick Perry
  7. Michelle Bachmann
  8. Ron Paul
 
pingafrita:
I saw Ides of March this weekend (which I highly recommend) and it got me thinking..Say it was a GUARANTEE that Obama loses in November, how would you rank the current Republican candidates? Mine below, I included Trump.
  1. Mitt Romney
  2. Jon Huntsman
  3. Newt Gingrich
  4. Donald Trump
  5. Rick Santorum
  6. Rick Perry
  7. Michelle Bachmann
  8. Ron Paul

Why do you rank Ron Paul last?

 
wadtk:
pingafrita:
I saw Ides of March this weekend (which I highly recommend) and it got me thinking..Say it was a GUARANTEE that Obama loses in November, how would you rank the current Republican candidates? Mine below, I included Trump.
  1. Mitt Romney
  2. Jon Huntsman
  3. Newt Gingrich
  4. Donald Trump
  5. Rick Santorum
  6. Rick Perry
  7. Michelle Bachmann
  8. Ron Paul

Why do you rank Ron Paul last?

I'm wondering the same thing. Also, how the FUCK do you rank Trump at 4???????

 
wadtk:
pingafrita:
I saw Ides of March this weekend (which I highly recommend) and it got me thinking..Say it was a GUARANTEE that Obama loses in November, how would you rank the current Republican candidates? Mine below, I included Trump.
  1. Mitt Romney
  2. Jon Huntsman
  3. Newt Gingrich
  4. Donald Trump
  5. Rick Santorum
  6. Rick Perry
  7. Michelle Bachmann
  8. Ron Paul

Why do you rank Ron Paul last?

One word: Radicalism....love the unmatched consistency though.

Trump and Santorum are interchangeable imo, but I dislike the bottom three.

 
pingafrita:
wadtk:
If the constitution is radical, I guess RP is a radical. Do your homework, son.
It's 2011, son. Not 1787, things change.

Yep, the destruction of our dollar, the failure of most government programs, tax rates 30%+, national debt +$15 trillion.

So, you're right. Not following the constitution is the way forward. Bet you haven't even read the thing.

 
wadtk:
If the constitution is radical, I guess RP is a radical. Do your homework, son.

Agreed and if the people don't like the "radical" results of going by the constitution, there is a simple answer: amendments.

 
  1. Huntsman - has been my favorite from the beginning
  2. Gingrich - I am a space junkie, and he is the only candidate who seems to care at all about space exploration
  3. Romney- "presidential"; foil to Obama
  4. Paul- although he sounds like your crazy uncle, I agree with many of his positions
  5. Santorum - from PA; we need another president from PA, as right now we just have Buchanan, who sucked
  6. Trump- I think his rhetoric would be hilarious on the international political stage
  7. Perry and Bachman- these two are jokes
 

I love Ron Paul, but I think he would make a better VP then POTUS. Just because this is the order I'd vote for them in, doesn't necessarily mean I think they're right on all the issues, just that they'd do the best job as President. Oh, and I didn't include Gary Johnson because I don't think he has a real run at this in any sense of the phrase. I do like him, and if I thought he had a chance, I'd probably put him above Huntsman.

  1. Romney
  2. Paul
  3. Huntsman (I like that he promotes civil unions, I just wish he'd abandon marriage altogether as an official practice)
  4. Gingrich
  5. Santorum (don't know much about him, just know that I don't like Trump, Perry, or Bachman)
  6. Perry
  7. Trump
  8. Bachmann

POTUS-VPOTUS I'd like to see:

  1. Romney-Paul
  2. Paul-Romney
  3. Romney-Santorum
  4. Romney-Gingrich
  5. Paul-Santorum ... 1,000,000: Bachmann-anyone
"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
pingafrita:
I saw Ides of March this weekend (which I highly recommend) and it got me thinking..Say it was a GUARANTEE that Obama loses in November, how would you rank the current Republican candidates? Mine below, I included Trump.
  1. Mitt Romney
  2. Jon Huntsman
  3. Newt Gingrich
  4. Donald Trump
  5. Rick Santorum
  6. Rick Perry
  7. Michelle Bachmann
  8. Ron Paul

You would rather have that Medicare part D moron Santorum over Paul?

I am not cocky, I am confident, and when you tell me I am the best it is a compliment. -Styles P
 
  1. Cris Christie president
  2. General Petraeus DNI
  3. Ron Paul as chief of staff
  4. Jamie Dimon as treasury secretary
  5. Willi Nelson......I dunno, just try and work him in
  6. Romney as a last ditch backup plan

I don't take the rest of the field seriously. And someone get Newt the hell off of TV, he's a cancer to the GOP.

Get busy living
 
  1. Newt (smart guy, although his historian attitude sucks, but a well-rounded candidate)
  2. Paul (locve his free msrket ideals, shouldnbe nicer to israel)
  3. Romney (such a pathetic flip-flopper)
  4. Bachmann ( why does everybody hate her? She seems like one of the smartest candidates)
  5. Santorum
  6. Perry (fucking stupid)
  7. Huntsman ( who are we kidding here...noone gives a shit about him)
 
pingafrita:
I saw Ides of March this weekend (which I highly recommend) and it got me thinking..Say it was a GUARANTEE that Obama loses in November, how would you rank the current Republican candidates? Mine below, I included Trump.
  1. Mitt Romney
  2. Jon Huntsman
  3. Newt Gingrich
  4. Donald Trump
  5. Rick Santorum
  6. Rick Perry
  7. Michelle Bachmann
  8. Ron Paul

Please tell me you won't be old enough to vote in the next election.

 
pingafrita:
^^^ I ought to get some special treatment from Patrick, just helped bring a longtime lurker and RP fan to register with the site.

To answer your question - I'm 13 in January so no.

Oh, shit.

 
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So you're 15 now? The vid is 2 years old. Smooth.

Anyways:

MNT:
Care to offer some explanation? Who exactly is "no one" and what are the "good reasons?" Please explain why another compromised neoconservative shill is exactly what America needs during a world-historic debt crisis and the systemic failure of our democratic processes.

I love Ron Paul, but he's a hard sell for president. Why? Because, while his ideas are grounded in the Constitution, we've gone a long way from where we started. There are a shitload of people out there that get government benefits that will vote against RP taking them away. Plus, he's "liberal" when it comes to abortion, gay marriage, drugs, etc. He's a hard sell to any borderline fiscal and socially conservative Republican. On the other hand, he picks up a hell of a lot of independents... but that won't help him get through the primaries.

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
D M:

I love Ron Paul, but he's a hard sell for president. Why? Because, while his ideas are grounded in the Constitution, we've gone a long way from where we started. There are a shitload of people out there that get government benefits that will vote against RP taking them away. Plus, he's "liberal" when it comes to abortion, gay marriage, drugs, etc. He's a hard sell to any borderline fiscal and socially conservative Republican. On the other hand, he picks up a hell of a lot of independents... but that won't help him get through the primaries.

As a medical doctor who delivered 3000 babies, he has always been staunchly pro-life. He hasn't been on both sides of the issue like Romney. Legislatively, his position is abortion should be handled at the state not federal level. His personal stance on marriage is that it is between a woman and a man. He has been married to the same woman for over 50 years. Legislatively, his position is that marriage should be defined by churches and other private organizations and wants the government out of the issue entirely. These are both stances that are appealing to social conservatives.

As for his position on drugs, any reasonable fiscal conservative can understand that the war on drugs has been a colossal waste of resources, an abject failure, diverted police attention from violent crime, and empowered drug cartels and gangs. Apparently, drugs are more potent and readily available than ever. Prohibition is so laughable since they can't even keep drugs out of the prison system. In the land of the free, we have more nonviolent people locked away in cages than any other country in the world. Paul's rhetoric is not "Let's legalize heroin" as the media has misrepresented. He has framed the issue as a state's rights issue. His position is to repeal the federal prohibition and let states retain their sovereignty to make their own laws.

 
MNT:
As a medical doctor who delivered 3000 babies, he has always been staunchly pro-life. He hasn't been on both sides of the issue like Romney. Legislatively, his position is abortion should be handled at the state not federal level. His personal stance on marriage is that it is between a woman and a man. He has been married to the same woman for over 50 years. Legislatively, his position is that marriage should be defined by churches and other private organizations and wants the government out of the issue entirely. These are both stances that are appealing to social conservatives.

As for his position on drugs, any reasonable fiscal conservative can understand that the war on drugs has been a colossal waste of resources, an abject failure, diverted police attention from violent crime, and empowered drug cartels and gangs. Apparently, drugs are more potent and readily available than ever. Prohibition is so laughable since they can't even keep drugs out of the prison system. In the land of the free, we have more nonviolent people locked away in cages than any other country in the world. Paul's rhetoric is not "Let's legalize heroin" as the media has misrepresented. He has framed the issue as a state's rights issue. His position is to repeal the federal prohibition and let states retain their sovereignty to make their own laws.

I know all this, you just have to convince every die hard Christian of it, and believe me, they're not liking that shit one bit. Religion is about control, and if RP takes office, the Christians lose a lot of power. You also need to convince the neocons that Paul isn't going to ruin our empire-building activities. I love Ron Paul, I would never say otherwise, I've just heard the way that people who don't like him talk about him. Those people generally do not enjoy reason.

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 
  1. Ron Paul- Brilliant, dedicated to fixing the economy and government, libertarian values

  2. John Huntsman- A pragmatist, socially liberal, fiscally (semi) conservative.

  3. Rick Perry- I'll get flack for this pick, but I prefer flat taxes and a religious wing nut to #4. Besides, I think Perry realizes he is not too bright himself, and will be willing to lean on counsel.

  4. Romney- This guy will not do anything for the first 4 years. He is business as usual, and I think he will be planning his re-election campaign before he is sworn in. He's brilliant, and has business experience, but he will be absolutely unwilling to piss off any interest group during his first term. We cannot handle another 4 years on our current trajectory.

  5. Gingrich- I am not a fan. He has a ton of baggage, and while he could be a Republican LBJ and force through some landmark legislation, I think he is prone to cronyism.

6+: Just keep Obama. Lame duck democrat is preferable to a nut.

 

President: Ron Paul

VP: Huntsman

Everyone else on that list is resigned to a senior political analyst position on fox.

What a great thought to start the day!

Making money is art and working is art and good business is the best art - Andy Warhol
 
  1. Huntsman
  2. Romney 3-7 Perry, Bachmann, Newt, Paul, Santorum (in no particular order
"For I am a sinner in the hands of an angry God. Bloody Mary full of vodka, blessed are you among cocktails. Pray for me now and at the hour of my death, which I hope is soon. Amen."
 

2012: Jon Huntsman.

2016: Boy o Boy, do I agree with UFO on this. General (King) David Patreaus will become the President of the United States. And I will be a U.S. Citizen by then, which means I will have voted to elect him POTUS.

 
  1. Jon Huntsman
  2. Ron Paul
  3. Newt Gingrich
  4. Mitt Romney

And if either of these three become president, I'll seriously start planning a move out of the United States 5. Rick Santorum 6. Michelle Bachmann 7. Rick Perry

 

How It Should Be

  1. Ron Paul
  2. Jon Huntsman
  3. Newt Gingrich
  4. Rick Perry
  5. Rick Santorum
  6. Michelle Bachmann
  7. Mitt Romeny
  8. Donald Trump

What It's Gonna Be 1. Mitt Romney 2. Newt Gingrich 3. Ron Paul 4. Rick Perry 5. Donald Trump (if he runs) 6. Michelle Bachmann 7. Rick Santorum 8. Jon Huntsman

As I've said in many other posts, even though I hate Mitt Romney, I will vote for him in the actual election because Obama is far worse than any of these people. Primaries I will follow my rankings to the degree to which they are still in the race. Since I'm in NC, it should be obvious who is gonna win. If its Newt vs. Romney, I'm no voting for Ron Paul because it could lean it more towards Romney.

Reality hits you hard, bro...
 
JamesHetfield:
Cmon people, where is your mention of General David Patreaus?
From first page of post:
UFOinsider:
1. Cris Christie president 2. General Petraeus DNI 3. Ron Paul as chief of staff 4. Jamie Dimon as treasury secretary 5. Willi Nelson......I dunno, just try and work him in 6. Romney as a last ditch backup plan

I don't take the rest of the field seriously. And someone get Newt the hell off of TV, he's a cancer to the GOP.

He'd make a good president but his entire life has revolved around the Army (he even married a general's daughter back in the day) so he'd need a few years in the mix before being polished enough to stand a chance in a debate on other issues.

A for effort though...

Get busy living
 
  1. Paul (of course a couple of his programs are unrealistic, but he will acknowledge that and put on a slower pace)
  2. Huntsman
  3. Trump (he is an egomaniac of historic proportions, but would still be good for the country)
  4. Romney
  5. Newt
  6. Perry (all of the above would make a decent job)

  7. Santorum Infinity. Bachmann (ridiculous)

 
MQuant:
1. Paul (of course a couple of his programs are unrealistic, but he will acknowledge that and put on a slower pace) 2. Huntsman 3. Trump (he is an egomaniac of historic proportions, but would still be good for the country) 4. Romney 5. Newt 6. Perry (all of the above would make a decent job)
  1. Santorum Infinity. Bachmann (ridiculous)

You lose all credibility when you say Trump "would be good for the country".

"For I am a sinner in the hands of an angry God. Bloody Mary full of vodka, blessed are you among cocktails. Pray for me now and at the hour of my death, which I hope is soon. Amen."
 
MQuant:
1. Paul (of course a couple of his programs are unrealistic, but he will acknowledge that and put on a slower pace) 2. Huntsman 3. Trump (he is an egomaniac of historic proportions, but would still be good for the country) 4. Romney 5. Newt 6. Perry (all of the above would make a decent job)
  1. Santorum Infinity. Bachmann (ridiculous)

I'm sorry. Trump I could take. But perry would "make a decent job?" He's literally an idiot. And not in the way people call Obama/Bernanke/etc. idiots, like in the way Palin's an idiot.

 
Warhead:
MQuant:
1. Paul (of course a couple of his programs are unrealistic, but he will acknowledge that and put on a slower pace) 2. Huntsman 3. Trump (he is an egomaniac of historic proportions, but would still be good for the country) 4. Romney 5. Newt 6. Perry (all of the above would make a decent job)
  1. Santorum Infinity. Bachmann (ridiculous)

I'm sorry. Trump I could take. But perry would "make a decent job?" He's literally an idiot. And not in the way people call Obama/Bernanke/etc. idiots, like in the way Palin's an idiot.

Look Warhead. On what do you base your judgement? On what he has said? If yes, then that's naive. I look at what he did at Texas. This looks balanced and decent. Not great or super cool. But definitely a decent job.

 

he would. his business/get-things-done mentality/skills would lead, more likely than not, to better economic policies. he is passionate about the country (though maybe not as much as about himself).

biggest downturn i see is just that US reputation in the world would likely sink below sea levels and washington would transform (even more) into a huge box-fight cage. and there is good chance he is thrown out or leave himself after a year. u got to weigh the pros and cons.

 
MQuant:
he would. his business/get-things-done mentality/skills would lead, more likely than not, to better economic policies. he is passionate about the country (though maybe not as much as about himself).

biggest downturn i see is just that US reputation in the world would likely sink below sea levels and washington would transform (even more) into a huge box-fight cage. and there is good chance he is thrown out or leave himself after a year. u got to weigh the pros and cons.

Trump? Are you serious?

Are you...retarded?

 
TheKing:
MQuant:
he would. his business/get-things-done mentality/skills would lead, more likely than not, to better economic policies. he is passionate about the country (though maybe not as much as about himself).

biggest downturn i see is just that US reputation in the world would likely sink below sea levels and washington would transform (even more) into a huge box-fight cage. and there is good chance he is thrown out or leave himself after a year. u got to weigh the pros and cons.

Trump? Are you serious?

Are you...retarded?

You should never go full retard!

"For I am a sinner in the hands of an angry God. Bloody Mary full of vodka, blessed are you among cocktails. Pray for me now and at the hour of my death, which I hope is soon. Amen."
 
TheKing:
MQuant:
he would. his business/get-things-done mentality/skills would lead, more likely than not, to better economic policies. he is passionate about the country (though maybe not as much as about himself).

biggest downturn i see is just that US reputation in the world would likely sink below sea levels and washington would transform (even more) into a huge box-fight cage. and there is good chance he is thrown out or leave himself after a year. u got to weigh the pros and cons.

Trump? Are you serious?

Are you...retarded?

U got to relax a little bit King ;)

 
  1. Paul - the only reasonable candidate at the debates
  2. Huntsman - the neocons think he's a moderate, and the conservatives are all voting for Ron Paul. I don't know why the guy is still in the race.
All I care about in life is accumulating bananas
 

CPH: Why should we give a FUCK about what Christians "believe" when it comes to when life begins? Or anything for that matter?

"durrr, my useless thousands of years old book says gay is bad, also has rules on keeping slaves, durrr we need a theocrat in office."

 

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