Recruiting for a junior transfer to a target school
Hi Everyone,
So I just finished 2 years at community college and will be attending Georgetown MSB for my junior and senior year beginning this fall. I have pretty good internship this summer in Chicago (not IBD but it's not anything like PWM).
So I guess my question is: will I be at a disadvantage when it comes to getting interviews this fall during recruiting season? I'm transferring in with a 3.96 GPA but I won't have a Georgetown GPA. I have solid ECs from my community college and I plan to join the student investment fund as soon as I arrive on campus. My goal is to get a solid IBD SA gig for next summer.
Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
PS: I recently saw a similar thread on this but it was about transferring from a target to a better target so I decided to make my own post since I'm coming in from community college.
IBD SA recruiting is generally in the spring so you'll have a Georgetown GPA.
There are a few ways to do it:
I'm not going to debate the ethics of either, what I'm saying is based on first-hand experience and that of my peers. If you mention you went to community college and do not crush it at MSB your first semester, you will 100% be at a disadvantage. If you mention you went to community college and crush it at MSB your first semester, you may or may not be at a disadvantage. If you don't mention you went to community college at MSB and do okay, you'll probably be at a disadvantage but it won't hurt you as much.
I transferred to a target from a SEC school (not Vanderbilt, so a mediocre state school) and did not crush it my first semester. I did okay (3.4-3.5ish) but not great. I listed my previous school as I had dominated there. I didn't get a single interview from a firm north of DC. I'm happy with the way my life has turned out but if I had to do it over again I would probably omit my first school.
Like it or not, bankers are snobs and the guys reading your resumes probably aren't community college transfers. Consider these facts and position yourself accordingly.
Thanks SECfinance. I'm confident I'll crush it at MSB and get a 3.8+. I would agree with you in that it seems most advantageous to leave my CC off because of how bankers are snobs. However, if I do that, I wouldn't be able to put any of my ECs on my resume which would in turn make my resume look pretty bare outside of my internship and high GPA. I plan on joining the student investment fund right away but that's only one activity.
Yeah I get it, which is why it's a tough thing to decide. Just join a bunch of ECs to be able to fill out your resume a bit.
Thanks for all your advice guys, I really appreciate it.
How to navigate the IB summer recruiting process as an incoming junior transfer to a top 10 undergrad biz school? (Originally Posted: 07/13/2017)
Hi WSO, I've passively looked at these forum the past few years and it's been very helpful in helping me establish my belief that finance/IB is what I want to get into out of college. A little about me: I attended a community college for two years after high school and am transferring to a top biz school.
Find your alumni there and start networking now.
For starters, you should have gone to SC. Anyway, you probably should take another semester and postpone SA recruitment for summer of 19 and FT for summer of 20. Focus on getting a boutique/MM internship. A lot of my friends who I know transferred junior year are taking another semester because it is very difficult to convert an SA at a BB/EB when you're dealing with a new school especially Cal. Regarding grades, I don't know if your GPA transfers, so focus the first semester on grades. Don't go into the school year thinking you're going to bang out a 4.0 again. If you can great, but try to hold onto a 3.5 or 3.7. Make sure to network a lot like 300 emails to different IB firms level of networking. Final note, you sound like a tool, so work on sounding less like a tool. Good luck!
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Where can I transfer but still get recruited? (Originally Posted: 01/11/2007)
I am a freshman at NYU Stern right now and was looking to transfer because I figured out that I was not following my passion of majoring in history or politics, so I wanted to try and transfer out of NYU's business school and serve in the military for a few years after college. However, I still want to land a job in investment banking so I wanted to go to one of the better schools in the nation whose liberal arts program was also recruited. My first semester did not go so well and I got an A, A-, A-, and a B+ which landed me with a 3.675 GPA. I know that my next few semesters will be better and wanted to know what I should do.
1) Which schools should I be looking at, preferably ranked higher than NYU.
2) Since my first semester went poorly should I consider holding off my transfer apps to some of the more elite schools for junior year admission?
A 3.675 is not bad at all my friend. Dont let any of these people tell you differently. Once you get into the 3.5 - 4.0 range, its all VERY SUBJECTIVE.
I suggest looking into Cornell. Ivy League name, exceptional liberal arts, and a slew of top BBs recruit there. Make sure you're ECs and essays are top notch however. A 3.7 will not give you admission alone by any means.
first, i think its noble you're going to join the military (which branch?). secondly, if you're going to do ROTC or something like and go to the military right after college, then the quality of recruiting at the school is not that relevant. ppl coming out of the military generally go to bschools and then into banking, consulting etc....
well im in the middle of the application process for OCS for the Marines, so if all goes well then during my senior year I will get to decide whether I want to officially join or not.
There was a story in the WSJ in the past few months about people transferring to their "Dream" schools- which schools were more transfer friendly, etc.
Generally speaking, its in your best interest to get into the strongest undergrad program you can (just like b-school).....HYP/S and work your way down..that being said, if you're smart, you're going to be fine from any school. I interviewed at almost every top BB on the street, McKinsey, bain, and BCG- and the only firm which actively recruits on my campus is McK. Good luck.
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^^^^to image from WSJ article "Admissions: the Sequel" dated 10/28/2006
Thanks for the link MetalJack. I think I have narrowed it down to applying to Texas (in-state) for their liberal arts college and McCombs, so I can pursue both business and liberal arts. Also, as a longshot, I figured Brown since I have always liked the college and its reputation.
Would these colleges be a downgrade from Stern or about the same level as far as the recruitment for investment banking and other competitive business fields. Thank you everyone for all your help.
i would stay at stern....
I go Texas (McCombs), and I was actually thinking of transfering to Stern lol. Here its pretty cool social wise, but, unfortunately, while there are some incredibly intelligent individuals here most everyone values partying over academics. Neverthless you'll enjoy the absolutely stunning women though. :)
stay with Stern
stay with Stern
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