Rejection from oliver wyman 1st round, no answers from MBB, no chance?

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I got rejected form Oliver Wyman just now (pre-interview screening) and have not heard from other companies. OW was the company that had latest application deadline.

For OW, I pretty much failed the online quant test, and I have no background in consulting/busness related field.

Should I expect not to hear back from anyone and start looking for other backup plans (e.g. grad school etc..)? Also, are there any more genrerl consulting firms I could apply to at this point? (Undergraduate level)

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Oct 2, 2012

If you can't get an interview at oliver wyman, you're not getting it from MBB.

If you still want consulting take a look at the likes of accenture, deloitte, at kearny, and the lower tier consulting firms. You can always get a few years of solid experience, rock the GMAT, get great recs, go to a top MBA and then do MBB, which is a lot easier to get coming out of b-school than it is from college.

Oct 2, 2012

Is it possible to contact the people and ask for a feedback (i.e. what my major flaw in application was)?
Also, how important is the quant test in the OW application? out of 20 or 30 questions I had, I barely answered less than half of the answers, so I'm pretty sure I failed. I am wondering whether it is because my resume was ok but I did horribly on that test.

Oct 2, 2012
sugarmouse:

Is it possible to contact the people and ask for a feedback (i.e. what my major flaw in application was)?
Also, how important is the quant test in the OW application? out of 20 or 30 questions I had, I barely answered less than half of the answers, so I'm pretty sure I failed. I am wondering whether it is because my resume was ok but I did horribly on that test.

I answered around that many questions as well (2 years ago). That doesn't mean you failed. You aren't expected to finish the test. I got put into the next round.

Oct 2, 2012
sugarmouse:

Is it possible to contact the people and ask for a feedback (i.e. what my major flaw in application was)?
Also, how important is the quant test in the OW application? out of 20 or 30 questions I had, I barely answered less than half of the answers, so I'm pretty sure I failed. I am wondering whether it is because my resume was ok but I did horribly on that test.

I only answered 12 Questions, and skipped around 3-4, so I think it's more about how many you get right versus wrong on the test. I got the interview.

I think, and correct me if I'm wrong here, that if you got to the quant test in the first place, that there was nothing terribly wrong in your application. Wasn't the quant test essentially the next round of their on-boarding process?

Oct 2, 2012
TheLastCall:

If you can't get an interview at oliver wyman, you're not getting it from MBB.

If you still want consulting take a look at the likes of accenture, deloitte, at kearny, and the lower tier consulting firms. You can always get a few years of solid experience, rock the GMAT, get great recs, go to a top MBA and then do MBB, which is a lot easier to get coming out of b-school than it is from college.

I've seen Oliver Wyman alums get into HBS, I actually think the firm is comparable to that of Deloitte...

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Oct 2, 2012
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TheLastCall:

If you can't get an interview at oliver wyman, you're not getting it from MBB.

If you still want consulting take a look at the likes of accenture, deloitte, at kearny, and the lower tier consulting firms. You can always get a few years of solid experience, rock the GMAT, get great recs, go to a top MBA and then do MBB, which is a lot easier to get coming out of b-school than it is from college.

I've seen Oliver Wyman alums get into HBS, I actually think the firm is comparable to that of Deloitte...

Yes, oliver wyman is in the same tier with booze, monitor, lek. It's a great firm. My point is that if the OP can't get past the initial pre-screen, he has no shot at MBB. His best bet is to go for the lower tier firms i named, get good experience, and then gun for MBB in b-school. It all comes down to how badly he wants it. I know plenty of people who would kill to get into MBB.

Oct 2, 2012
TheLastCall:

If you can't get an interview at oliver wyman, you're not getting it from MBB.

What a stupid thing to say.
And then you throw together at kearny (sic) and Accenture in the next sentence?
You're not helping anyone with this kind of advice.

TheLastCall, do you honestly believe EVERYONE who now works at MBB would've made the OW recruiting cut?
Laughable. Virtually all the guys I know at MBB got rejected from a so-called Tier 2 at some point.

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Oct 2, 2012

i was rejected after the screening by ow but had interviews with all 3 mbb. i had the feeling that ow put more emphasis on related work experience than the others, so you might still have a shot.

also, i'd love to work for booze...

Oct 2, 2012

What kind of experiences qualify as "related work experience"?

Most of my experiences have been geared towards medical research (no publication but minor conferences) & teaching. So basically for me, teaching (i.e. tutoring organic chemistry) is probably the closest to any kind of experiences that involve human interaction/providing "consulting/advice" to them. Overall, my GPA is ok, (not steller, but except for one bad year, I don't think it would hold me back).

The thing is though, I'm graduating in May 2013. In order to get into business school, don't you need work experiences? So I guess I should aim for "lower tier" firms right?

Btw, I'm based in Canada, and booze doesnt recruit at my school. Is it too late to submit an application to booze? Would they even bother looking at resume from someone with 0 relevant work experience and just mediocre overall like me? :(

And regarding that quant test, I feel confident about only ~2-3 questions. The rest, I just clicked random answers and intended to go back after going through everything (which I never did). So basically, I could've gotten somewhere along ~10-30% on the quant test. I think I remember reading somewhere (not sure if it was here) that you needed 50~60% to pass the test so was wondering.

Oh well, life sucks, but guess you just gotta suck it up and move on

Oct 2, 2012

It might be helpful if you spelled Booz correctly...

Oct 2, 2012

I wouldn't assume you're not going to get anything else, but if you've applied that's out of your hands at this point. Right now you should be working on improving your worst case scenario. If you haven't applied to all the firms mentioned above (AT Kearney, LEK, Booz, etc.) and they are still taking applications, then apply. Also, I'm pretty sure all the Big 4 advisory practices (Deloitte S&O being the most relevant for your interests) are still taking applications. I'm not sure the graduate school sit and wait approach would be most prudent, but definitely make sure you hit application deadlines for that if it interests you.

Oct 5, 2012
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