Safety in NYC right now?
Definitely do not feel safe in the city at this moment. Given that some traders are going back to the office and my GF is going back to her office, I'm very worried about safety at the moment. Crazies are out of control and cops won't do anything b/c of idiotic internet rage right now.
I saw a video this morning of a guy stabbing people on the train: https://v.redd.it/t56n1bt86aa51. It's horrifying as so many of us take trains everyday
What should people do with regards to safety right now?
Never have I seen the city this bad as a native New Yorker. Fuck DeBlasio.
Didn’t know you were living out in Flushing
GF is asian and I'm with her rn
Don't assume everyone lives in a luxury high rise
if I move back to the US, I think I would go live in Flushing, given my family is Chinese. Is Flushing nice? Livable? I think it would be a good way to help my wife adjust. I am not being facetious, I seriously think that's the best place in USA for us but I've never lived in the East Coast at all.
Bridge and tunnel are not allowed on WSO, goodbye
Why is the safety any different now compared to a few months ago? I guess this post is basically a subtle rant against Deblasio.
lol bro get outta the basement
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/16/us/new-york-city-crime/index.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/23/nyregion/nyc-shootings-surge.html
I moved here when DeBlasio was elected so have no reference for before that. Although everyone I have met wishes Giuliani was back.
Yes all these Karens walking around scare the shit out of me.
Those down to earth people from the outer boroughs fucking hate Karens and Karens’ husbands
Rather be in New York then California, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, and pretty much any other populous state right now. COVID cases have skyrocketed virtually everywhere that early openings occurred. Just wait. In a few weeks, Miami is going to go apeshit.
Really? I heard many people in New York say they wish they live in Europe or Asia.
Who would want to live in Asia?
The travel ban makes that pretty difficult to do these days.
You do realize that the more people = more incidents right? It doesn’t make the odds any higher that something will happen to you. It’s a pretty safe city overall. No doubt it’s gotten worse under that idiot mayor, but that’s coming from being one of the safest.
What should people do with regards to safety? Go take up some type of self defense this way you can do something else instead of cower. Huge advocate of jiu jitsu, and NYC happens to have one of the best gyms for it in the world in Renzo Gracie.
renzo closed for almost 4 months
totally agree on self defense. I plan to get back into Krav Maga soon. chose that over BJJ just because it’s more practical than being on the ground in a fight but all martial art forms are a good idea if you’re wanting to learn self defense. highly recommend everyone take classes if worried about safety to boost your confidence and make you feel safe in sticky situations
lol "more practical" as if going to the ground in a fight is a choice. Reality is if you want to train for self defense and are serious about it you should only be considering mma (unless you havea genuine interest in krav maga and it's more of a hobby). All those cute krav maga dance moves are going to be out the door when you get shoved to the ground, trip or get tackled and you're going to get fucked. In a street fight I would put my money on an experienced wrestler over someone with krav maga experienced any day of the week.
Wonderboy speaks the truth, the only legit krav maga you will see is if you travel to israel to train, and even krav maga experts take mma. Most of what you see in the west are mcdojos.
I would take mma/boxing classes + wrestling/bjj (keep in mind you never want to be in a knife fight, its never like in the movies its literally a guy doing the jerk off movement with his hand on your chest w/ a stab per minute of ~40/m)
bjj is ass. if you get yourself on the ground you're a shit fighter. any bjj black belt can be submitted by a groin attack.
krav maga is the real shit. made by israelis who had it tested in combat
I am a brave woman. So I don’t get scared easily.
This is pretty low quality stuff. Weird shit has always happened in the subways, it’s a city of 8mm people that swells to 10mm during work hours - the likelihood you personally are a victim of anything beyond petty crime is almost 0. The crime rate is incredibly low - and when you break it down by neighborhood violent crime is basically non existent in most of the neighborhoods people on this forum spend their time in.
Add to that that NYC is basically dead right now, probably 1/4th as full as normal. I’m not taking trains because that’s a sure fire way to get COVID, but walking around the city right now feels like walking around on a summer Holiday where everyone leaves the city - meaning it feels safer than even normal times (which always feels safe).
Honestly, the only people I’ve ever heard complain about feeling unsafe in the city are the people who don’t actually live here (or do so for political reasons).
100%
I moved here last year and while it's not my comfy midwestern town, I have yet to feel threatened by anyone on the streets since I've been here. And I live in LES too
Don’t know many who are still in the city but my friend sent us pics and also said that it felt like Memorial Day weekend where people are just going to the bar on the corner or walking around
Granted, this is in west village, not East Narnia outer borough shit
Disagree here. Seeing many co-workers/colleagues seeking to get out of this “shithole”... including a couple senior guys that were born/raised in Manhattan. Includes couple lifelong NYers (the classic UES, connected, Dalton/Horace Mann families)...that 6 months ago said they’d die here... now cruising to NJ/Westchester
to be clear here, I do think NYC has become shittier but not enough to be worried... also a dude living in typical area in Manhattan, so not worried. But there are homeless POS every corner now and the entirety of soho is boarded / graffiti'd. Wouldn't want to raise a family here (but prob never would have/probably always moving out by then). But it is clear that some older ppl are rolling out... or are being prompted to do so sooner....home sales in burbs are crushing rn, indisputable
Completely agree with this. Lived in NY my entire life and to say that right now things are out of control is just not true, it’s a false narrative created by certain news outlets that just doesn’t reflect reality. Yeah, crazy shit happens on the subway sometimes, but that’s not anything new and it’s part of living in the most populous city in America.
bro looks like you’re a first year or intern, so many 2 months of exp in NYC and a couple weekends with mom...
I mean, if more people ride it on a daily basis than live in most states, that's basically a given.
I suspect that the ratio of crazies might be a bit higher now, but that's from the homeless problem. I am no more worried about riding the subway today than I was in 1998 at age 14. (other than the increase in the fare)
"Maybe this has to do with the fact that people aren't paying their rent and are scared to pay their rent. And so they go out, and they need to feed their child and they don't have money so they feel like they either need to shoplift some bread or go hungry.
-AOC on the surge in crime
AOC is a joke
She is literally Bernie 2.0 — irreverent adult child whining and deflecting blame all day long without getting anything done. Someone please cancel her
The general sentiment in the city is that the people of color are true New Yorkers whereas the young white professionals who grew up in suburbia are just self-entitled bitches and transplants who will never be considered New Yorkers no matter how hard they try to be. It is unfortunate that I grew up in the suburbs rather than in the city. I would have traded my childhood in the suburbs with an upbringing in the city in a heartbeat if I had the chance. I would have chosen Queens over Scarsdale without a doubt.
Ma’am, no one gives a fuck about the outer boroughs...
Ummm.....you must be delusional
Too many mentally sick people are in the city. If you're a fine line away from causing harm to others, you should not be allowed to be walking around the streets. They should take these nut-cases, and hold them in mental institutions.
It's also tiring to ride the subway and smell shit or piss on the train.
Best way to solve this problem: Install state-of-the art facial recognition cameras in subway stations/subways, and start tracking who is riding the subway/buses.
When someone pees on the train/shits, commits a crime, you'll have their face/name, and then you can lock them up/get them to the right place to get helped.
I assume you’re Asian/foreign (such systems are common) but on top of infringing on everyone’s rights... homeless dudes piss and shit directly in front of cops daily, who do nothing (hands are tied). Literally can shit in the middle of Penn/GC.
But fully agreed, the nuts shouldn’t be here (although not sure on any solution).
Nope, born and raised in NYC. This is a topic brought up often amongst New Yorkers, so I've had ample time to think about it.
You must love China then.
Ni hao! Welcome to [Insert any of the hundreds of mega Chinese cities here]
Milton Friedman would certainly be appalled by your racist comment.
....the moment when you realize that the person you idolize is disgusted by you. Lmao
Corona, Queens is one of the safest neighborhoods in Queens and in all of New York City. If you don’t believe me, search it up yourself.
No one wants to live in fucking Queens. I’d rather die of Covid than live in fucking Queens.
As if anyone in Queens would even want you as a neighbor.....Hahaha
You should live with the idiots out in Long Island if you are not already doing so. You will fit right in.
Safe or not my kissing company is losing a ton of revenue so lets get back to work!
Honest question, where as a New Yorker can you move where COVID-19 cases or civil unrest aren't skyrocketing? Think most international travel is out due to the ban. Only a handful of states are seeing declining new cases / deaths.
Umm... New York? Did you see we had 0 deaths yesterday for the first time in March?
And to my knowledge there is no civil unrest here in Manhattan. Unless you're referring to the outer boroughs then yeah maybe, I have no idea what happens out there.
I meant where other than New York State / City.
South Park predicted this a long time ago...
Season 19, episode 7 - Naughty Ninjas
https://southpark.cc.com/full-episodes/s19e07-naughty-ninjas
In in the COVID & Post COVID world, there is absolutely zero, nada, zilch reason for banks and other major corporations to maintain hugely expense presence in NYC.
They need to vote with their feet and move...ideally to a safer, lower tax area. NYC "cachet" is officially dead.
I wouldn’t go that far. It certainly won’t be necessary to be in NYC in the near term but client service orgs, like banks, situate their big offices in NYC because that’s where there clients are concentrated. Unless there is a mass exodus of the majority of top clients’ HQs, most BBs will still maintain a footprint here and front office employees will be asked to come back once clients are made to go back to their offices.
The people who should be most concerned are back office employees whose roles could be outsourced to satellite or regional offices with lower COL (and, this, pay). The higher ups have seen that all of our work can be done remotely, so why the hell not pay $100k to someone in Texas for the same quality work for which they’d been shelling out $200k to someone based in NYC
as someone who went to school here and now continuing my career I’ve seen a deterioration in the city and this was pre covid. crime in general increased during the summer but because ppl were locked up for 3-5 months, less money coming for certain demographics and an overall shift ppl have to policing I think that is why you see higher crime rates at this time.
I moved but lived in park slope area and was surprised at the amount of crime the citizen app was showing me in the last few weeks.
the city itself is overrated imo and boggles my mind that it takes a pandemic for the city officials to actually care about cleaning subways on a daily basis and doing something about the homeless problem. housing prices Manhattan + Brooklyn) are a whole topic itself let alone the costs to move in. Brokers fees were just done away with and you used to pay the 10-15% of the total years rent on top first /last months rent. 5k just to move into a box?
also for the comments of people living New York it’s not just wealthy ppl during Covid it’s been happening for years
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/new-york-citys-po…
a lot of this is my opinion so take it as you will but I will say this to the crime part .....even if concealed carry is not allowed(it should) at least allow people to buy pepper spray. tazers just got approved about a year ago but I would rather not be close enough to use it to protect myself .
Is it too crazy to think about quitting my job/slightly changing my career to avoid living in NYC? I recently graduated from undergrad and I love high finance, but I don't know if it is worth it to live in NYC anymore. I'm honestly kind of scared just walking around because of the homeless, and I don't want to get hurt because I have people depending on my paycheck.
To be clear I'm an incoming FT Analyst, and I haven't started my job yet.
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