Safety in NYC right now?

Associate 1 in S&T - Other

Definitely do not feel safe in the city at this moment. Given that some traders are going back to the office and my GF is going back to her office, I'm very worried about safety at the moment. Crazies are out of control and cops won't do anything b/c of idiotic internet rage right now.

I saw a video this morning of a guy stabbing people on the train: https://v.redd.it/t56n1bt86aa51. It's horrifying as so many of us take trains everyday

What should people do with regards to safety right now?

Never have I seen the city this bad as a native New Yorker. Fuck DeBlasio.

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  • Analyst 1 in IB-M&A
Jul 11, 2020

You are a liar, you are not a native New Yorker otherwise you or your parents would know it's been way worse. Specifically 80s, 90s New York - your parents should remember that if you're really from here.

You're talking like a scared yuppie who's never lived in a big city before. You should actually move as far away as possible.

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  • Associate 1 in S&T - Other
Jul 11, 2020

FYI, I was born here, but my parents are from canada. So no one in my household knows what the 80s were like. I'm sure the crack 80's were trash

sorry for being concerned about my GF's safety. Go fuck yourself

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Jul 11, 2020

Yeah better to be safe than sorry. Best of luck to you guys

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Jul 11, 2020

If you don't get mugged on the subway at least three times on your way to work you ain't a real NEW YAWKER....seriously what is this weird pride people have in living in NYC back when it was a crime-ridden shithole.

Now that it's becoming a crime-ridden shithole again people aren't allowed to complain?

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Jul 11, 2020

Didn't know you were living out in Flushing

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  • Associate 1 in S&T - Other
Jul 12, 2020

GF is asian and I'm with her rn

Don't assume everyone lives in a luxury high rise

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Jul 12, 2020

if I move back to the US, I think I would go live in Flushing, given my family is Chinese. Is Flushing nice? Livable? I think it would be a good way to help my wife adjust. I am not being facetious, I seriously think that's the best place in USA for us but I've never lived in the East Coast at all.

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Jul 12, 2020

Bridge and tunnel are not allowed on WSO, goodbye

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Jul 11, 2020

Why is the safety any different now compared to a few months ago? I guess this post is basically a subtle rant against Deblasio.

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  • Analyst 3+ in RE - Comm
Jul 11, 2020

I moved here when DeBlasio was elected so have no reference for before that. Although everyone I have met wishes Giuliani was back.

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Jul 11, 2020

Yes all these Karens walking around scare the shit out of me.

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Jul 11, 2020

Those down to earth people from the outer boroughs fucking hate Karens and Karens' husbands

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Jul 11, 2020

Rather be in New York then California, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, and pretty much any other populous state right now. COVID cases have skyrocketed virtually everywhere that early openings occurred. Just wait. In a few weeks, Miami is going to go apeshit.

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Jul 12, 2020

Really? I heard many people in New York say they wish they live in Europe or Asia.

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Jul 12, 2020

Who would want to live in Asia?

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Jul 13, 2020

The travel ban makes that pretty difficult to do these days.

Jul 11, 2020

You do realize that the more people = more incidents right? It doesn't make the odds any higher that something will happen to you. It's a pretty safe city overall. No doubt it's gotten worse under that idiot mayor, but that's coming from being one of the safest.

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  • Associate 1 in PE - Other
Jul 11, 2020
Intern in IB-M&A:

Honestly wouldn't be so bad if we could carry guns and shoot these fuckers dead

are you included in those fuckers as well?

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Jul 12, 2020

Get jumped by one of these guys and then lets see if you really want to defend them.

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Jul 12, 2020

I think a better solution would be allowing the police to effectively do their jobs again

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Jul 12, 2020

But the morally superior lib elites on my social media virtue signaled that all police are racist pigs?? Worrying about crime and being attacked is a PRIVILEGE!

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Jul 12, 2020

Lol.....why don't you move to "small town USA" then? The only people who would agree with your opinion are those in rural and perhaps suburban America. Europeans won't agree with you, Asians won't agree with you, Australians won't agree with you, New Yorkers certainly won't side with you....the only place where people would even seriously consider your opinion is small town USA

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Jul 13, 2020

bernie goetz vibes

Jul 11, 2020

What should people do with regards to safety? Go take up some type of self defense this way you can do something else instead of cower. Huge advocate of jiu jitsu, and NYC happens to have one of the best gyms for it in the world in Renzo Gracie.

Jul 12, 2020

renzo closed for almost 4 months

Jul 12, 2020

totally agree on self defense. I plan to get back into Krav Maga soon. chose that over BJJ just because it's more practical than being on the ground in a fight but all martial art forms are a good idea if you're wanting to learn self defense. highly recommend everyone take classes if worried about safety to boost your confidence and make you feel safe in sticky situations

"If you ain't first, you're last!" - GOAT

Jul 12, 2020

lol "more practical" as if going to the ground in a fight is a choice. Reality is if you want to train for self defense and are serious about it you should only be considering mma (unless you havea genuine interest in krav maga and it's more of a hobby). All those cute krav maga dance moves are going to be out the door when you get shoved to the ground, trip or get tackled and you're going to get fucked. In a street fight I would put my money on an experienced wrestler over someone with krav maga experienced any day of the week.

Jul 12, 2020

Wonderboy speaks the truth, the only legit krav maga you will see is if you travel to israel to train, and even krav maga experts take mma. Most of what you see in the west are mcdojos.

I would take mma/boxing classes + wrestling/bjj (keep in mind you never want to be in a knife fight, its never like in the movies its literally a guy doing the jerk off movement with his hand on your chest w/ a stab per minute of ~40/m)

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Jul 13, 2020

bjj is ass. if you get yourself on the ground you're a shit fighter. any bjj black belt can be submitted by a groin attack.

krav maga is the real shit. made by israelis who had it tested in combat

Jul 12, 2020

I am a brave woman. So I don't get scared easily.

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Jul 12, 2020

This is pretty low quality stuff. Weird shit has always happened in the subways, it's a city of 8mm people that swells to 10mm during work hours - the likelihood you personally are a victim of anything beyond petty crime is almost 0. The crime rate is incredibly low - and when you break it down by neighborhood violent crime is basically non existent in most of the neighborhoods people on this forum spend their time in.

Add to that that NYC is basically dead right now, probably 1/4th as full as normal. I'm not taking trains because that's a sure fire way to get COVID, but walking around the city right now feels like walking around on a summer Holiday where everyone leaves the city - meaning it feels safer than even normal times (which always feels safe).

Honestly, the only people I've ever heard complain about feeling unsafe in the city are the people who don't actually live here (or do so for political reasons).

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  • Associate 1 in PE - Other
Jul 12, 2020
AllDay_028:

Honestly, the only people I've ever heard complain about feeling unsafe in the city are the people who don't actually live here (or do so for political reasons).

100%

I moved here last year and while it's not my comfy midwestern town, I have yet to feel threatened by anyone on the streets since I've been here. And I live in LES too

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Jul 12, 2020

Don't know many who are still in the city but my friend sent us pics and also said that it felt like Memorial Day weekend where people are just going to the bar on the corner or walking around

Granted, this is in west village, not East Narnia outer borough shit

Jul 12, 2020
KREBSCYCLEOMG:

Don't know many who are still in the city but my friend sent us pics and also said that it felt like Memorial Day weekend where people are just going to the bar on the corner or walking around

Granted, this is in west village, not East Narnia outer borough shit

Yea I've spent most of 2020 out east or in the burbs, but have gone back to my place in the city a few times and now have been here for ~2 weeks and it's relatively dead streets with some young people walking around drinking or eating outside, exactly like you see if you stay in the city for Memorial Day weekend or July 4th. Very few other people (and almost no tourists!) in the Village, Tribeca, flatiron, and even the trendy parts of Brooklyn. I was at Brooklyn bridge park last week and on the roof of the one hotel and couldn't believe just how nice it was with the thinning of the crowds.

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  • VP in RE - Comm
Jul 12, 2020

Disagree here. Seeing many co-workers/colleagues seeking to get out of this "shithole"... including a couple senior guys that were born/raised in Manhattan. Includes couple lifelong NYers (the classic UES, connected, Dalton/Horace Mann families)...that 6 months ago said they'd die here... now cruising to NJ/Westchester

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  • VP in RE - Comm
Jul 12, 2020

to be clear here, I do think NYC has become shittier but not enough to be worried... also a dude living in typical area in Manhattan, so not worried. But there are homeless POS every corner now and the entirety of soho is boarded / graffiti'd. Wouldn't want to raise a family here (but prob never would have/probably always moving out by then). But it is clear that some older ppl are rolling out... or are being prompted to do so sooner....home sales in burbs are crushing rn, indisputable

Jul 12, 2020

Completely agree with this. Lived in NY my entire life and to say that right now things are out of control is just not true, it's a false narrative created by certain news outlets that just doesn't reflect reality. Yeah, crazy shit happens on the subway sometimes, but that's not anything new and it's part of living in the most populous city in America.

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  • VP in RE - Comm
Jul 12, 2020

bro looks like you're a first year or intern, so many 2 months of exp in NYC and a couple weekends with mom...

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Jul 13, 2020
financechimp:

Completely agree with this. Lived in NY my entire life and to say that right now things are out of control is just not true, it's a false narrative created by certain news outlets that just doesn't reflect reality. Yeah, crazy shit happens on the subway sometimes, but that's not anything new and it's part of living in the most populous city in America.

I mean, if more people ride it on a daily basis than live in most states, that's basically a given.

I suspect that the ratio of crazies might be a bit higher now, but that's from the homeless problem. I am no more worried about riding the subway today than I was in 1998 at age 14. (other than the increase in the fare)

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Jul 13, 2020
AllDay_028:

Honestly, the only people I've ever heard complain about feeling unsafe in the city are the people who don't actually live here (or do so for political reasons).

"Maybe this has to do with the fact that people aren't paying their rent and are scared to pay their rent. And so they go out, and they need to feed their child and they don't have money so they feel like they either need to shoplift some bread or go hungry.

-AOC on the surge in crime

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Jul 13, 2020

AOC is a joke

She is literally Bernie 2.0 -- irreverent adult child whining and deflecting blame all day long without getting anything done. Someone please cancel her

Jul 12, 2020

The general sentiment in the city is that the people of color are true New Yorkers whereas the young white professionals who grew up in suburbia are just self-entitled bitches and transplants who will never be considered New Yorkers no matter how hard they try to be. It is unfortunate that I grew up in the suburbs rather than in the city. I would have traded my childhood in the suburbs with an upbringing in the city in a heartbeat if I had the chance. I would have chosen Queens over Scarsdale without a doubt.

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  • VP in RE - Comm
Jul 12, 2020

Ma'am, no one gives a fuck about the outer boroughs...

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Jul 12, 2020

Ummm.....you must be delusional

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Jul 12, 2020

Too many mentally sick people are in the city. If you're a fine line away from causing harm to others, you should not be allowed to be walking around the streets. They should take these nut-cases, and hold them in mental institutions.

It's also tiring to ride the subway and smell shit or piss on the train.

Best way to solve this problem:
Install state-of-the art facial recognition cameras in subway stations/subways, and start tracking who is riding the subway/buses.

When someone pees on the train/shits, commits a crime, you'll have their face/name, and then you can lock them up/get them to the right place to get helped.

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Jul 12, 2020

I assume you're Asian/foreign (such systems are common) but on top of infringing on everyone's rights... homeless dudes piss and shit directly in front of cops daily, who do nothing (hands are tied). Literally can shit in the middle of Penn/GC.

But fully agreed, the nuts shouldn't be here (although not sure on any solution).

Jul 12, 2020

Nope, born and raised in NYC. This is a topic brought up often amongst New Yorkers, so I've had ample time to think about it.

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Jul 13, 2020

You must love China then.

Ni hao! Welcome to [Insert any of the hundreds of mega Chinese cities here]

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Jul 13, 2020

Milton Friedman would certainly be appalled by your racist comment.

....the moment when you realize that the person you idolize is disgusted by you. Lmao

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Jul 12, 2020

Corona, Queens is one of the safest neighborhoods in Queens and in all of New York City. If you don't believe me, search it up yourself.

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  • Associate 3 in IB - Ind
Jul 12, 2020

No one wants to live in fucking Queens.
I'd rather die of Covid than live in fucking Queens.

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Jul 13, 2020

As if anyone in Queens would even want you as a neighbor.....Hahaha

You should live with the idiots out in Long Island if you are not already doing so. You will fit right in.

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Jul 13, 2020

Safe or not my kissing company is losing a ton of revenue so lets get back to work!

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Jul 13, 2020

Honest question, where as a New Yorker can you move where COVID-19 cases or civil unrest aren't skyrocketing? Think most international travel is out due to the ban. Only a handful of states are seeing declining new cases / deaths.

  • Analyst 3+ in RE - Comm
Jul 13, 2020

Umm... New York? Did you see we had 0 deaths yesterday for the first time in March?

And to my knowledge there is no civil unrest here in Manhattan. Unless you're referring to the outer boroughs then yeah maybe, I have no idea what happens out there.

Jul 13, 2020

I meant where other than New York State / City.

Jul 13, 2020

South Park predicted this a long time ago...

Season 19, episode 7 - Naughty Ninjas

https://southpark.cc.com/full-episodes/s19e07-naug...

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Jul 13, 2020

In in the COVID & Post COVID world, there is absolutely zero, nada, zilch reason for banks and other major corporations to maintain hugely expense presence in NYC.

They need to vote with their feet and move...ideally to a safer, lower tax area. NYC "cachet" is officially dead.

Jul 13, 2020

I wouldn't go that far. It certainly won't be necessary to be in NYC in the near term but client service orgs, like banks, situate their big offices in NYC because that's where there clients are concentrated. Unless there is a mass exodus of the majority of top clients' HQs, most BBs will still maintain a footprint here and front office employees will be asked to come back once clients are made to go back to their offices.

The people who should be most concerned are back office employees whose roles could be outsourced to satellite or regional offices with lower COL (and, this, pay). The higher ups have seen that all of our work can be done remotely, so why the hell not pay $100k to someone in Texas for the same quality work for which they'd been shelling out $200k to someone based in NYC

Jul 13, 2020

as someone who went to school here and now continuing my career I've seen a deterioration in the city and this was pre covid. crime in general increased during the summer but because ppl were locked up for 3-5 months, less money coming for certain demographics and an overall shift ppl have to policing I think that is why you see higher crime rates at this time.

I moved but lived in park slope area and was surprised at the amount of crime the citizen app was showing me in the last few weeks.

the city itself is overrated imo and boggles my mind that it takes a pandemic for the city officials to actually care about cleaning subways on a daily basis and doing something about the homeless problem. housing prices Manhattan + Brooklyn) are a whole topic itself let alone the costs to move in. Brokers fees were just done away with and you used to pay the 10-15% of the total years rent on top first /last months rent. 5k just to move into a box?

also for the comments of people living New York it's not just wealthy ppl during Covid it's been happening for years

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/artic...
a lot of this is my opinion so take it as you will but I will say this to the crime part .....even if concealed carry is not allowed(it should) at least allow people to buy pepper spray. tazers just got approved about a year ago but I would rather not be close enough to use it to protect myself .

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