Bit late guys, only 3 weeks left. From all the L3s takers/chartholders I've spoken to they all say that you have to use the CFAI books, unlike L1/2 where Schweser will do.

"After you work on Wall Street it’s a choice, would you rather work at McDonalds or on the sell-side? I would choose McDonalds over the sell-side.” - David Tepper
 
Oreos:
Bit late guys, only 3 weeks left. From all the L3s takers/chartholders I've spoken to they all say that you have to use the CFAI books, unlike L1/2 where Schweser will do.

I unfortunately am relying on Schweser for this one due to time constraints (only got started a couple weeks ago). I feel pretty fucked thus far.

"For I am a sinner in the hands of an angry God. Bloody Mary full of vodka, blessed are you among cocktails. Pray for me now and at the hour of my death, which I hope is soon. Amen."
 
Best Response

I passed in 2008 since my advice might be a bit dated, but I'll give it a shot.

The writing portion is a bitch. You will definitely have one long piece about grandma's superannuation problem or some garbage like that. The year I took it, the write up for the question was at least a page long filled with tiny details and twists and turns, and you were supposed to unpack that and come up with a cogent answer. It was ridiculous, but they seemed to be fairly lenient with answer credit as long as you had a thought process that made sense and showed your work. I discussed some of the written answers post-test with some friends, and we all came up with different stuff, but all passed. I am not 100% sure there are clearly defined right and wrong answers to some of the questions. Obviously follow the material and don't wing it, but I think as long as you show your work and apply whatever they taught you, you should do okay.

They do test minutiae. There was an entire question set my year on reverse cash and carry arbitrage. When I looked after the test, that topic was covered in like a half a page of the CFAI materials. It was definitely a "gotcha" set. There's nothing you can do about that -- you either know the material or don't. Everyone I asked failed that section.

I would try to keep the written answers as simple as possible, focusing on key points. Basically you want to list out using their key terms everything that is relevant to the question and explain why it is relevant. No need to be creative, I would use their exact terminology and go for layup points (even if you can't really answer the question you should at least aim for half credit). If you get a convexity question, you should know there are several key points for convexity, and list everything applicable, for example.

The best passing strategy is to make sure you pick up all the easy points. My year, there were easy points in GIPS, ethics, and portfolio attribution. The material is easy and you know it will be on the test, and it helps that it's all extremely boring (others won't study it hard). So make sure you cross the Ts on the easy sections (they may have changed the point distribution since I took it, I don't know).

That's about it. I went into the test underprepared (studied about two months). Multiple choice section was pretty easy and saved my bacon. No matter how prepared, you will miss some written questions, so just make sure you are generally on top of the material and crush the afternoon test. Good luck.

And don't be a dumbass and forget your calculator like I did. God bless nerdy Asian kids with extra calculators :D

 
Ravenous:
I passed in 2008 since my advice might be a bit dated, but I'll give it a shot.

The writing portion is a bitch. You will definitely have one long piece about grandma's superannuation problem or some garbage like that. The year I took it, the write up for the question was at least a page long filled with tiny details and twists and turns, and you were supposed to unpack that and come up with a cogent answer. It was ridiculous, but they seemed to be fairly lenient with answer credit as long as you had a thought process that made sense and showed your work. I discussed some of the written answers post-test with some friends, and we all came up with different stuff, but all passed. I am not 100% sure there are clearly defined right and wrong answers to some of the questions. Obviously follow the material and don't wing it, but I think as long as you show your work and apply whatever they taught you, you should do okay.

They do test minutiae. There was an entire question set my year on reverse cash and carry arbitrage. When I looked after the test, that topic was covered in like a half a page of the CFAI materials. It was definitely a "gotcha" set. There's nothing you can do about that -- you either know the material or don't. Everyone I asked failed that section.

I would try to keep the written answers as simple as possible, focusing on key points. Basically you want to list out using their key terms everything that is relevant to the question and explain why it is relevant. No need to be creative, I would use their exact terminology and go for layup points (even if you can't really answer the question you should at least aim for half credit). If you get a convexity question, you should know there are several key points for convexity, and list everything applicable, for example.

The best passing strategy is to make sure you pick up all the easy points. My year, there were easy points in GIPS, ethics, and portfolio attribution. The material is easy and you know it will be on the test, and it helps that it's all extremely boring (others won't study it hard). So make sure you cross the Ts on the easy sections (they may have changed the point distribution since I took it, I don't know).

That's about it. I went into the test underprepared (studied about two months). Multiple choice section was pretty easy and saved my bacon. No matter how prepared, you will miss some written questions, so just make sure you are generally on top of the material and crush the afternoon test. Good luck.

And don't be a dumbass and forget your calculator like I did. God bless nerdy Asian kids with extra calculators :D

Great advice, I'd give you a SB if I had one.

Keep it coming...

 
Ravenous:
I passed in 2008 since my advice might be a bit dated, but I'll give it a shot.

The writing portion is a bitch. You will definitely have one long piece about grandma's superannuation problem or some garbage like that. The year I took it, the write up for the question was at least a page long filled with tiny details and twists and turns, and you were supposed to unpack that and come up with a cogent answer. It was ridiculous, but they seemed to be fairly lenient with answer credit as long as you had a thought process that made sense and showed your work. I discussed some of the written answers post-test with some friends, and we all came up with different stuff, but all passed. I am not 100% sure there are clearly defined right and wrong answers to some of the questions. Obviously follow the material and don't wing it, but I think as long as you show your work and apply whatever they taught you, you should do okay.

They do test minutiae. There was an entire question set my year on reverse cash and carry arbitrage. When I looked after the test, that topic was covered in like a half a page of the CFAI materials. It was definitely a "gotcha" set. There's nothing you can do about that -- you either know the material or don't. Everyone I asked failed that section.

I would try to keep the written answers as simple as possible, focusing on key points. Basically you want to list out using their key terms everything that is relevant to the question and explain why it is relevant. No need to be creative, I would use their exact terminology and go for layup points (even if you can't really answer the question you should at least aim for half credit). If you get a convexity question, you should know there are several key points for convexity, and list everything applicable, for example.

The best passing strategy is to make sure you pick up all the easy points. My year, there were easy points in GIPS, ethics, and portfolio attribution. The material is easy and you know it will be on the test, and it helps that it's all extremely boring (others won't study it hard). So make sure you cross the Ts on the easy sections (they may have changed the point distribution since I took it, I don't know).

That's about it. I went into the test underprepared (studied about two months). Multiple choice section was pretty easy and saved my bacon. No matter how prepared, you will miss some written questions, so just make sure you are generally on top of the material and crush the afternoon test. Good luck.

And don't be a dumbass and forget your calculator like I did. God bless nerdy Asian kids with extra calculators :D

Agree with comments above (passed on same year). I used Schweser, which was a close call (most my friends also used Schwerser and passed). Do as many test exams as possible, check for key words (morning) and master the logic behind ISPs and well as typical ones.

  • For morning session, go for bullet points and key words. Show process, don't dwell on lengthy explanations (marginal probability of additional points low to cost in terms of precious minutes). Write what you know and pass to next case, return if needed, also if short on time skip difficult/lengthy Qs and focus on efficiently gaining as much points as possible. If time allows, go back and complete. Once finished, forget about it, particularly the ackward feeling of answering just partially and incompletely... just forget, clear your mind, focus on afternoon session.

  • Crush afternoon, follow advise on Ethics, GIPS etc. Master the afternoon at all cost.

Good luck

 

I bought it yesterday :( And I am not trying to figure it out. I used TI 83 before @@ this one is not even similar.

How do you think of level 1. Do the schweser practices and mock exams in CFAI? Will I be fine? I am way behind because I was interviewing in the last minute for a firm.

Cola Coca:
@Ravenous - Haha yeah, it was sarcastic, but it's really funny when people ask for the copied Schweser materials on LinkedIn, exposing their real names.
blueslord2910:
Any advice for level 1, I just found out that I am using the wrong calculator :(

Buy one of the approved calculators? The TI one isn't too bad, around $50 I think.

 

For the written section, use bullet points, remember to bring a pen, and just give the number of answers they ask for (i.e., if it says "two reasons why..." then have only 2 points, I don't think they give you the chance to take a shotgun approach and hope 2 of them are right in order to get full credit). And similar to the advice I'm sure many give for all three exams - take as many mock exams as possible to get used to the questions and get used to writing out answers, showing your work, etc. I'd head over to analystforum.com and see what advice folks give over there as well as look at posts from prior years to see commentary people had after the test (without disclosing specific test information, of course :) )

 

I'm a last year pass, agree with all of the above, two tips:

1 always review ethics, those are some easy points, and GIPS

2.By now you should be able to make an investment policy statements with your eyes closed for all the typical scenarios; old lady, entrepreneur retiree, rich guy's son, pension fund, endowment etc. (best way to do this is through practice tests )

Good luck on getting your life back!

 

Hi Guys can you point me to some practice questions on Ethics & GIPS or are the Shweser notes enough for this

Thanks

Simplicity is the highest form of sophistication ~ Leonardo da Vinci
 
arant:
Hi Guys can you point me to some practice questions on Ethics & GIPS or are the Shweser notes enough for this

Thanks

I used the notes for pretty much everything. 2008 was the year they were supposedly going to crack down and specifically test stuff out of the CFAI books to hose Schweser users but I still passed (they got me on reverse cash & carry though). Not sure if they have made it harder still for Schweser only people but you could probably do a search on AF and get a sense for that. The good thing about ethics is that it's all repeat from the prior levels. GIPS is new but is straight memorization, nothing hard there and the test isn't going to throw a lot of curveballs. I learned GIPS the day before the test and crushed that section. I would definitely recommend everyone use the CFAI materials for the IPS stuff though.

 

Ducimus tenetur praesentium omnis eum asperiores autem dolores nulla. Aut provident odit quae qui. Adipisci quod harum voluptatibus enim similique odit. Provident fugit quod reprehenderit omnis culpa doloribus quis.

Quia quia animi sit rerum ut consequatur repudiandae ea. Voluptate maiores iste vero nam. Tenetur explicabo voluptate nihil beatae eum maiores.

Id impedit et nihil. Tempore libero excepturi assumenda quia. Consequatur natus possimus molestiae possimus. Quis veritatis iste asperiores recusandae ut. Aliquid nesciunt eligendi assumenda maiores totam. Et autem consequatur odit atque modi dolore reiciendis.

Aut ut illum accusantium aut sapiente provident repellendus. Excepturi doloremque voluptatem consequatur mollitia. Atque eos sit ut incidunt sed. Praesentium nisi accusantium amet quas. Corrupti ut et est est et. Magnam quasi ad voluptas accusamus at.

 

Cumque magnam aut dolores vel vel. Quae et occaecati explicabo asperiores. Perspiciatis at explicabo totam recusandae magni. Consectetur ut voluptatem aspernatur asperiores occaecati quis vero.

Sit cupiditate nihil eius debitis. Nihil repellat maxime nisi vitae. Maiores dignissimos et molestiae laborum. Neque nulla voluptas est sed soluta rerum aut. Hic omnis maxime architecto. Dolores nihil omnis ipsam sequi pariatur est tempora. Iusto illum cumque ratione quis odio at.

Blanditiis qui atque eum eveniet nihil laborum autem. Et consequatur non earum sit aut dolore nam. Dignissimos sapiente non id rerum voluptas veniam vitae. Inventore sit enim perspiciatis id.

Debitis sit ut ratione nam veritatis pariatur sit et. Omnis eum rerum voluptas aut fuga aut in. Assumenda et ea nihil placeat molestiae sed id.

Career Advancement Opportunities

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Jefferies & Company 02 99.4%
  • Goldman Sachs 19 98.8%
  • Harris Williams & Co. New 98.3%
  • Lazard Freres 02 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 03 97.1%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Harris Williams & Co. 18 99.4%
  • JPMorgan Chase 10 98.8%
  • Lazard Freres 05 98.3%
  • Morgan Stanley 07 97.7%
  • William Blair 03 97.1%

Professional Growth Opportunities

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Lazard Freres 01 99.4%
  • Jefferies & Company 02 98.8%
  • Goldman Sachs 17 98.3%
  • Moelis & Company 07 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 05 97.1%

Total Avg Compensation

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Director/MD (5) $648
  • Vice President (19) $385
  • Associates (86) $261
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (13) $181
  • Intern/Summer Associate (33) $170
  • 2nd Year Analyst (66) $168
  • 1st Year Analyst (205) $159
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (145) $101
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
99.0
3
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
4
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
5
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
6
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
7
kanon's picture
kanon
98.9
8
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
9
Linda Abraham's picture
Linda Abraham
98.8
10
DrApeman's picture
DrApeman
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”