1/18/11

Hey guys, I need a quick insight on what I should do about my GPA. I graduated May 2010 from a non-target with a B.S in Finance and Business with a cumulative GPA of 2.85 and major 2.94. I was wondering whether I should put my GPA on my resume? I don't want recruiters thinking it's lower than what it already is by not placing it on my resume or does it even matter at this point?

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1/18/11

I personally wouldn't place it.

Financial Modeling

1/18/11

I don't know how much it actually matters. If someone doesn't put their gpa, I usually just assume that it's below a 3.0 anyway and then ask what it is during the interview (if they get one).

1/18/11

If it's that low, then just don't put it. Better to explain away a low GPA on an interview than not get an interview in the first place. I know this because I did this.

There's a LOT of reasons why someone's GPA may be low, and as time goes by it matters less, but for the first job and grad school, you have to work the system to your advantage.

Get busy living

1/18/11

ABSOLUTELY do not put it on your resume. Unfortunately, you will probably be asked what was your GPA more than your own name going forward. So if I were you, sounds like you need to start working on another degree...

"Cut the burger into thirds, place it on the fries, roll one up homey..." - Epic Meal Time

1/18/11

yea dont put it. make sure you come up with a good convincing story as to why it is so low

"Look, you're my best friend, so don't take this the wrong way. In twenty years, if you're still livin' here, comin' over to my house to watch the Patriots games, still workin' construction, I'll fuckin' kill you. That's not a threat, that's a fact.

1/19/11
Will Hunting:

yea dont put it. make sure you come up with a good convincing story as to why it is so low

In fact: turn it into an asset. I graduated high school at the top of my class, but then a series of family tragedies made the luxury of sitting around cranking out A's impossible anymore. My undergrad GPA SUCKED, but when I interviewed I told my story (worked 2 jobs, supported family, started a business, took time off to travel and learn a trade) I came across as much more appealing. Your GPA is low, but not so low that you're out of the game......outside of the most competetive BB FO positions, they only care that you graduated, especially for ops jobs. However, if/when you go to grad school, you're going to have to CRUSH the GMAT and really polish your story. Also, you have to PERFORM every day - your experience is going to have to outshine your grades

Good luck, and for what it's worth, there's plenty of people out there doing pretty well who weren't model students in college, but you have to recover, compensate, and dominate, otherwise you're just mediocre (and I'm not getting that impression)

Get busy living

1/18/11

round up to 3.0 and then put it on :P

9/14/12

putting that on your resume is about the same as showing a girl on your first date with a positive STD report with your name on it.

9/14/12

I say if it's 2-point-anything it should be left off. You're not impressing anyone with that.

9/14/12

that is a terrible, terrible idea. How bad is the GPA?

9/14/12

I would not put that quote on your resume.

9/14/12

I appreciate the creativity but I wouldn't take this approach. With formalized campus recruiting your resume will be analyzed by any where between 1-3 layers before your resume hits a decision makers desk. I don't think you should run the risk that everyone thinks your quote is "clever".

I was in a similar situation to you. Rather than draw attention to a deficiency, let the rest of your resume shine. In my opinion, two internships in Asset Management is more important than anything you did in school. On your resume make "Career Experience" the first heading and "education and honors" the last heading. I had a lot of success taking this approach.

9/14/12

It would make you look silly if you put that quote on your resume.

"I do not think that there is any other quality so essential to success of any kind as the quality of perseverance. It overcomes almost everything, even nature."

9/14/12

Don't do it, but you're not the only one going to school just to get a good job.

9/14/12

Probably not the best idea. I agree with CornTrader, try to draw attention to other parts of your resume. Im sure there's more to you than your grade point average.

9/14/12

As a survivor of the low GPA woes, I 100% advise against adding the quote. Go with the strategies above and make sure to highlight experience value. When someone asks about your GPA, don't stutter, don't hesitate, don't apologize. Answer it honestly and confidently, then move onto what you focused on instead of school.

"We're not lawyers, we're investment bankers. We call you for the paperwork. We didn't go to Harvard, we went to Wharton, and we saw you coming a mile away."

9/14/12

Appreciate the advice everyone, especially Corntrader. That approach could work really well for me. Kind of suggested the quote as a creative joke. GPA is 2.8 overall and 3.1 major gpa. Thanks for the all the comments.

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9/14/12

You got it all wrong son:

1) List 4.0/4.0 GPA
2) Add following quotes below:
- "A thing worth having, is worth cheating for" - W.C. Fields
- "If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying" - Mark Grace
- "The line between an economist and a criminal is incredibly thin" - Freakonomics

9/14/12

animalz:

You got it all wrong son:

1) List 4.0/4.0 GPA

2) Add following quotes below:

- "A thing worth having, is worth cheating for" - W.C. Fields

- "If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying" - Mark Grace

- "The line between an economist and a criminal is incredibly thin" - Freakonomics

lol, awesome.

9/14/12

animalz:

You got it all wrong son:

1) List 4.0/4.0 GPA

2) Add following quotes below:

- "A thing worth having, is worth cheating for" - W.C. Fields

- "If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying" - Mark Grace

- "The line between an economist and a criminal is incredibly thin" - Freakonomics

I am pretty sure that this could actually work if one has nothing to lose.

9/14/12

animalz:

You got it all wrong son:

1) List 4.0/4.0 GPA

2) Add following quotes below:

- "A thing worth having, is worth cheating for" - W.C. Fields

- "If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying" - Mark Grace

- "The line between an economist and a criminal is incredibly thin" - Freakonomics

^+1 SB

But you forgot:

"I'm selfish, impatient, and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I'm out of control, and at times hard to handle. But if you can't handle my low GPA, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best."

9/14/12

A buddy of mine had a 2.9 from HYP but his resume said 3.9. He's now an analyst for a top tier HF (>$15B AUM). Their HR never checked...

9/14/12

I guess the question would be, what would happen if they did check? Would it have mattered or could he just passed it off as a formatting error and apologized profusely?

Financial Modeling

9/14/12

I would keep it on your resume. If you leave it off (assuming that you are still in school) most employers will think that it is below 3.0.

9/14/12

I'm a recent grad.

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Recent Actuarial Science (good statistical skills) grad looking for entry-level work ANYWHERE.
Writing CFA Level 1 in June 2010. Passed 3 actuarial exams.

9/14/12

Well in that case it depends how recent.

There are no steadfast rules, but usually once you are 2 years out you can keep it off. If you haven't had a full time position after graduation, or if you aren't in grad school, I would still keep it on.

Maybe someone else has a different opinion, this is just based on what I have heard.

9/14/12

Canadian firms place a lot of emphasis on GPA (unfortunately) from my experience so yea I'd prob look towards a Masters program

9/14/12

computerized:
Canadian firms place a lot of emphasis on GPA (unfortunately) from my experience so yea I'd prob look towards a Masters program

it might seem like a noob question, but don't admission offices stress a lot on UG gpa? I'm not too familiar with master admission as I have never considered to enrol into one before. Thank you.
9/14/12

I don't think you should listed it on your resume. Just show companies your knowledge. To some people gpa doesn't matter, its all about what you learn. In this business world of course GPA matters. Yes Masters program do want your GPA. Just do well for the rest of your UG career, that way it shows you matured. Take the GMAT and get a high score and also get job experience.

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9/14/12

Dont list your GPA. You might not get the job that you want out of undergrad, but you can achieve it eventually. I believe the rule of thumb is that after 2 years of work experience, most employers stop caring about your GPA and the focus shifts to your experience.

9/14/12

TeddyTheBear:
Dont list your GPA. You might not get the job that you want out of undergrad, but you can achieve it eventually. I believe the rule of thumb is that after 2 years of work experience, most employers stop caring about your GPA and the focus shifts to your experience.
Not even the major GPA?
9/14/12

No...a 2.77?--if it was above a 3 I would suggest listing the major

9/14/12

I've been following some of your posts, particularly your ER report which was extremely well written and presented, yet I'm quite surprised about your GPA. You're clearly very knowledgeable and driven, two factors that take much more precedence over GPA. I would say keep doing what you're doing, reach out to people at boutiques and share your research. If you do this long enough, you will definitely land something. While Canadian banks do place a lot of emphasis on GPA, they are also more welcoming to people from other backgrounds after a few years of work exp. Rather than the MFin, I would suggest that you work for 3-4 years, kill the GMAT and apply to Rotman, Ivey and Schulich's MBA program. From there you're all set for ER.

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