Should I Sleep With Potential Employers Daughter vs MBA

Current situation- it's a long one.

Grew up in upstate NY in the suburbs working in a country club full of big time ballers and bankers. I generally would keep my head down and perform the job at hand without so much as a glance at some of the huge name guys. I had no idea I wanted to pursue a career in finance at this time. As I worked through highschool some of the bankers became increasingly friendly and one night they decided to invite me to their dinner table. One of the bankers was PM at a hedge fund and introduced me later that Summer to to the world of finance through books and online articles.

There was one other banker at the table, said person was MD at a reputable firm and decided to introduce me to his daughters finance club at the college I would be attending after Summer. He gave me a link to their page on the college's website and inspired me to join my first semester. About a week or so before school began, I met up with said daughter and discussed potential career opportunities and the college itself. I remember distinctly she seemed reserved and was not interested in getting to know me as a person. She was very interested in pursuing her father's career and only socialized with graduating analysts. She sort of shrugged me off immediately I guess...

However, we became somewhat friends throughout college seeing each other on campus or at the school club meetings. Nothing more until she timely graduates and I became a rising Junior. For the next two years I hadn't heard from her or her father, the MD, except on Linked.In or Facebook.

I graduated and found a job in the city in Corp Finance paying probably below average salary. I have worked at my new job for a few months but ultimately want to get my MBA to lateral into IB. I know my chances of IB are extremely slim as of now due me have zero internships as an analyst. I have 2 internships under my belt but neither relate to IB. An MBA would cost me 2 years+around $130,000 which I do not have.

HERE'S THE INTERESTING PART

A few weeks ago the MD's daughter reached out to me on Linked.In and asked if I wanted to join other club alumni for a networking event. We attend the networking event and decide to get drinks after. I know she had lightened up to me since college due to her physical behavior toward me. Grabbing my arm, laughing at all my jokes, you get it.

We ended up sleeping together that night and now she keeps calling me to meet up again.

I have zero interest in her due to the mere fact she is extremely obsessed with her work life and is super rude to others not as fortunate as her. She exactly reminds me of Regina George from Mean Girls without the looks. It doesn't make sense why should would be interested in dating when she is so focused her own work. I honestly believe it is to maximize her life earnings and marry someone who will be high ranked in her fathers firm. She doesn't work for her father due to company's nepotism policy. I wasn't going to call her back until she texted me about an analyst opening at her fathers firm. I texted her I was interested and she ghosted me. I finally decided to call her back yesterday in spite and we are going on a date next week.

I know if I did not ask her out she would not give me a reference for the job. I also know if I keep dating her she will help me get in with her fathers firm.

So my overall game plan is to get the job through dating her, work for a few months, then dump her like a bag of bricks. This would save me a lot of time and money from getting an MBA. The only reason I want to get an MBA is to position myself into a job like this.

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Jul 17, 2019

Cool Story.
Never Happened.

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Jul 17, 2019

wouldn't fuck with someone's emotions. play shitty games win shitty prizes.

it may or may not come back to bite you in the ass, but the principle behind your intentions is morally awry regardless of her behavior/shitty personality

i would advise you not to go through with that based on the moral argument alone.

everyone's a liberal until they start making money

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Jul 18, 2019

I don't know why people shit on you for posting this comment..

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Jul 17, 2019

really gives weight to the stereotype of people working in finance.

but i'm glad there are more of us out there that can still differentiate between right and wrong regardless of status/wealth

everyone's a liberal until they start making money

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Jul 19, 2019

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Jul 17, 2019

This sounds like the plot of a straight-to-television low budget movie.

That being said, I will bite.

I will not make this a moral argument. Because if you are willing to fake an entire romantic relationship just to get ahead in life, then you are probably sociopathic enough to not care about my moral remonstrations & are probably also likely have a moderate amount of success in the cut throat world of finance.

You have made a lot of assumptions I think you need to reexamine, however.

  1. You're assuming you will end up in a relationship with this woman
    Based on your story, she has repeatedly spurned you to the point where you had to call her in "spite" (your words) to get her to go on a date with you. You should be concerned with getting her to even show up and not flake on you at that date.
  2. You are assuming she will help you get the job

She has probably had other guys do a version of what you're planning to do. If she is as driven as you say she is, she is not an idiot

  1. You are assuming her dad cares about her opinion on who or not to hire

And that he is thick enough to not see through your little scheme after you dump his daughter a couple weeks after you get the offer. High finance is a small world

Now, if all your assumptions all hold true and you somehow sweep her off her feet and convince her to be in a long term relationship with you, there are 3 more things

  1. To get to the level in the relationship where her dad cares enough about you to hook you up with a job, you need to have dated for a long time. Moreover, rich dudes with daughters are forever vigilant about opportunists (read, you) trying to take advantage of their daughters to get cushy jobs or a slice of that inheritance. So that will be at least a year to two years time investment and commitment to the relationship by you during which you have to pretend you love this woman. Legit relationships are already tough, I cannot imagine having to fake one for two years, especially with a person you describe as "shallow" and seem to actively dislike
  2. As a guy who has been dating such a "rich" girl for four years now (I only learned how wealthy her family was 9 months into the relationship, she'd kept it completely hidden), I can tell you that nothing impresses the dad & the daughter more than you being willing to pull your own bootstraps up instead of relying on them for anything. In fact ironically enough, the dad is more willing to throw lots of opportunities your way if he sees you doing your own thing instead of asking him for help.
  3. You seem to have a solid network - from your days in upstate New York to your time at the college finance club. You can leverage all that plus an MBA and you'll be golden. Plus you'll probably meet plenty of other "rich" girls during business school if that's your thing

My conclusion is therefore that you should explore pursuing your MBA, from a strictly probabilistic perspective.

H.E. Penny Packer:

some of the bankers became increasingly friendly and one night they decided to invite me to their dinner table

Had you been as amoral back then as you are now, this was your shot...

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Jul 18, 2019

This guy gets it.

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Jul 20, 2019

This. Also you're assuming that rich girls are so naive and dumb that they're gonna go along with your little scheme.

H.E. Penny Packer:

It doesn't make sense why should would be interested in dating when she is so focused her own work.

What makes you think you're not her boy toy

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Jul 17, 2019

ignore the haters...exploit he hell out of the situation...use the girl for sex and connections...and in 1-2 years lateral to another firm with no connections to the prior and ditch the girl (you can be a gentleman and let her down nicely...).

just google it...you're welcome

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Jul 17, 2019

If you're gonna sleep with someone for a job make it something better than an analyst position.

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Jul 17, 2019

does she want more than sex? if yes, then stop what you're doing, don't fuck with someone's emotions. if no, play on playa

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Jul 17, 2019

she is playing with OP by texting him about an opening after he wasn't calling her back (if that's how it went down)

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Jul 17, 2019

unless she was calling OP to tell him about the opening. lol maybe I redact my original comment.

Jul 17, 2019

Do it, do it and never regret.

Jul 17, 2019

Never lose control, that's the key. -Chad

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Jul 17, 2019

Step 1.) Make sure she does not see this lol

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Jul 17, 2019

Not exactly fitting, but none the less: don't shit where you eat.

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Jul 17, 2019

MBA and grad school in general are pricey...something to consider...

No pain no game.

Jul 17, 2019

1) Bang her
2) Get the job
3) Bang her again one last time before dumping her
4) ????
5) Profit

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Jul 18, 2019

This is a great post whether real or not. If real I'd HIGHLY suggest deleting it. If shes as much of a gunner as you say she's probably here starting topics asking if she should wear a dark navy or black skirt to her KKR interview to better her chances.

Just my .02

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Jul 18, 2019

You don't want it like this

Jul 18, 2019
  1. There isn't an opening at her dad's firm
  2. She seems pretty smart - she's using you for her own enjoyment.
  3. Don't be so gullible
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Jul 17, 2019

I would love to be taken advantage of from a girl!

Jul 22, 2019
Bo Vice:

1. There isn't an opening at her dad's firm

Let the games begin.

Jul 17, 2019

girls are crazy emotional during a certain time of the month....add 4 weeks to whenever she reached out to you...and go out with her on that day + 28 days. then add +28 days and on that day, ask for a job recommendation. play the game and make her wait (but not oo long). Your power comes from scarcity...a little..but not too much. this will help drag out the timeline

just google it...you're welcome

Jul 18, 2019

no morals whatsoever..

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Jul 17, 2019

you say that like its bad thing...

just google it...you're welcome

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Jul 17, 2019

Oh no! A girl wants pipe and she's manipulating him for sex! I can't imagine the horror OP is feeling right now!

Jul 17, 2019

Ask her if she know's how to spell coconut.

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Jul 17, 2019

I think she's after his nuts...

Jul 18, 2019

Why not do both? Sleep with her while you pursue your mba full-time. If her dad doesn't hire you by the time you graduate, another firm will.

Jul 17, 2019

Confused by this comment... I do not like this woman nor do I want to spend $130,000 for school when I could obtain the job from dating the daughter. I don't think I described this womans personality enough. She shrugged me off in college, used others to her own advantage several times, and is a complete asshole to below she deems below her. She is epitome of what I am not.

Jul 17, 2019

i wholeheartedly condone and recommend taking advantage of the situation to your full benefit. Be careful that you don't come across as needy...and also not too cocky...you want to thread that needle. Go forth and prosper my son....

just google it...you're welcome

Jul 17, 2019

if she's the epitome of what you are not, then why stoop to her level?

some people are okay with "selling their soul" to money and prestige. some people aren't. it seems like you've already made up your mind about what kind of person you are. i'm not judging you because i've done things in the past i'm not proud of either, but my 2 cents is that you should do whatever you think will allow you to look back and feel good about it.

everyone's a liberal until they start making money

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Jul 17, 2019

Dude...ur literally getting pussy thrown at you...who cares about her personality

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Jul 18, 2019

imagine your new work life with her dad :) gluck

Jul 17, 2019

a junior analyst at a big firm is not gonna be working with an MD...there are at least 3-4 levels of people inbetween them...most likely wouldn't even work in the same group....maybe if the firm uses a generalist pool...but even still...doubtful.

just go for it

just google it...you're welcome

Jul 19, 2019

PM me her LinkedIn and I will get you an analyst interview at a solid bank

What concert costs 45 cents? 50 Cent feat. Nickelback.

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Jul 17, 2019

Haha. This. Solid. Gold.

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Jul 20, 2019

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Jul 21, 2019

are you sure you want to give out these much details on wso when the girl is also so into this industry?

Jul 22, 2019

She doesn't seem that bad tbh. She might not be rude just knows what she wants and you did say she is very career focused. Stop looking at the negatives and look at the positives surely there is something you like about her. Dont date her if you really don't like her try to make her your friend so you won't have to cut ties as brutally. and Also women are not stupid, and they can be more evil than men just take a look at high school and how long girls would hold a grudge and do whatever they can to make another girl feel like s**t. I don't think it is a stupid idea but she can ruin your life and then you will have no chance.

Jul 22, 2019

Sounds like you two deserve each other. Might as well get married.

Jul 22, 2019

I give this about five days before some Business Insider "journalist" decides to use it as his/her "inside source" for a story titled: "Wall Street: Where even Love has a Price".

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Jul 23, 2019

she is stringing you around with a potentially fictitious position at her father's firm to either fuck with you for your attention or to fuck you.

Jul 24, 2019

You should date her, pay attention to her, take her on dates, compliment her. Once she falls in love with you she can hook you up with a better position at the company. Then you ghost her

Jul 17, 2019

We're going on our third date this weekend. Everything is going to plan...

Jul 17, 2019
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just google it...you're welcome

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