Alright guys I feel like I’m really starting to fucking lose my mind with this COVID shit, now with talk of the 3rd shot nearing FDA approval and various vaccine passports coming to reality.
How are you guys dealing with some of the BBs requiring full vax before going back in office? And what if they start asking for a 3rd and 4th shot to remain in compliance? I feel like the goalposts keep moving.
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Not getting the first one lol
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You are not alone. People should be thanking us for taking the risk and acting as the control group in this gigantic public health experiment 🙄
Becoming concerned they are going to make us get this every ~6 mo with documentation…..probably inevitable at this point.
Some of our industry conferences are requiring proof of vaccination now.. literally papers please
I’m getting the third or as soon as it’s available so I can live my life.
From what I’ve seen that should be it for awhile. It may ultimately be like getting a flu shot, but will cross that bridge when the time comes.
Don’t forget the 4th so you can live your life and the 5th and be sure to remember the 6th. I’m vaccinated but this is going to get bad. Medical privacy is over, the door has been opened.
would say its more so medical autonomy than medical privacy, which is probably even worse. Can only speak for the US but myself and everyone I know has always had to document and report vaccinations to schools/employers
Agreed. This is new territory for employers as HIPAA is seemingly superseded by OSHA requirements for creating a safe workplace. Technically what banks and others are doing by requiring vaccines isn't legal but have yet to be contested.
Don’t worry, the 4th shot should be coming out soon. That will hopefully stop the entire virus.
Already happening:
Meanwhile, Mother Nature...
Can't imagine why people are throwing MS at someone for getting a third shot.
My neighbour, late 20's/early 30's, had a blood clot in her leg after getting her vaccine and subsequently had to have it amputated. No thanks.
Nub pics or it didn't happen
I'm not sharing pictures because I want to respect her privacy. But if you do a quick google search, you will find that blood clots are not an unusual side effect from the vaccine and serious blood clots can lead to amputations.
My cousin's brother's sister's roomate's uncle's newphe's niece's mother's grandmother's father had a blood clot in the head from one of the vaccine. Had to chop the head off. Nothing could be done really. you're full of shit.
Stated something similar here and no one believed me, my mum died from a blood clot after taking the vaccine in May, her funeral was in June during my internship and I had to watch her service of songs via zoom from the office.
I sometimes feel hatred toward people that demonize individuals for not wanting to take the vaccine, my own mother literally died from this and people think I am lying.
I'm really sorry to hear that. I can't imagine how you must have felt.
Triples makes it safe. Triples is best.
Immune System as a Service, so hot right now. Subscribe or your social credit score will suffer!
My grandparents just got the booster shot. Great! Don't think healthy people need it yet but I would definitely get it
Pussy
Dude you’re going to end up having a bed side IV drip once Moderna drops it
Yep any day now the Bill Gates depopulation agenda will begin
We should preemptively just start getting vaccinated once a month to ensure full immunity.
We should also set up vaccination camps, where undesirables go to be experimented on medically, if they are not already vaccinated. Resistance should be met with an armed task-force that is set up to corral these people. Those who hide undesirables should be prosecuted along with them.
-Democrat who still talks about hitler
Fantastic idea. I think Australia is starting to beat us to it though.
They already have these setup around the world already, sadly.
I thought the idea of creating a clientele for the pharma industry was a "CoNSpiRaCy tHeOrY"... Hahahahaha
At OP...I think the goal posts keep moving as well (two weeks it'll all be normal; we're all going to get sick just can't all get it at once to crowd hospitals; do anything not to get it now).
However, I don't think any of these "restrictions" will change any ones behavior. Its like that old Bill Burr joke about "Stop domestic violence" billboards, does anyone going home to beat their spouse look at that billboard and have a change of heart? Does anyone who is dead set against not getting vaccinated going to have a change of heart? They will just find ways around it, some sort of medical/religious exemption, get a fake vaccine card. Its kind of like how guns and drugs are illegal by law, but how long would it take you to get your hands on one if you really tried. People will always find work around to do what they want to do. I'm not saying that getting/non getting vaccinated is right or wrong, I'm saying the restrictions prob aren't motivating people at this point. For example, if you have a good job at bank and are not getting vaccinated, are you going to quit if you're the sole breadwinner for your family? Probably not, you'll just find a way around it.
Pardon?
meaning, how many people own or have a firearm who don't have a permit for it, or own it unlawfully. As in, there are restrictions in place for safe gun ownership, but how many people get around that .
I'm at the crib rn, so ~10 steps away from one at all times. Got my hunting rifles & shotguns if I'm in a sporting mood, got the handguns if I'm in a self-defense mood, and the tactical pieces just because I'm so goddamn proud of my rights.
God bless America
just got my 3rd dose, i'm immunocompromised so i'd rather not risk getting hospitalized by the virus for no reason. feel great too, got it on saturday and haven't felt off so far. super available where i live too
If you don 't mind me asking, how do you manage work along with your health conditions ? The conditions I read that the booster shot has been approved for are quite severe.
do you mean like how has my condition affected work for me? i have crohn's disease but i've been in remission for a while now, just need infusions every 8 weeks so only downside is allocating time to go to the clinic
complaining about medical privacy
while talking about BBs
the same BBs that drug test staff and contractors
BBs drug test?
At least some do/have, yes. Maybe they changed their policies during COVID, I don't know.
If it makes medical sense to get a third shot, I'll certainly consider it. I'm not going to automatically throw any reasonable idea out.
It didn't make medical sense to get the first one unless you're old af or have comorbidities.
"Vaccine requirements and passports are literally communism" - people who have literally never once in their life experience communism. Meanwhile, my fully vaxxed grandparents who both grew up under brutal communist regimes are laughing at you morons.
All for less than a .1 percent fatality rate say what ?
650,000 dead
It’s 1.6% in the US
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
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There's a big difference between mandating vaccines/passports vs making the shot available to anyone who wants it.
Yes but capex fairy knows best. Better than anyone knows for themselves.
Sowell’s anointed he is.
Enjoy the erectile dysfunction and mental impairment. I guess there wasn’t any balls or brains in the first place so not much of a loss
I’ll get it if approved for my age group. But I’m not sure how much it will matter as all of us will be exposed to this virus at some point in our lives.
You guys realize that your vaccination status isn't a personality right?
idk if I'll get it, I'll get the flu shot this winter because the flu fucking sucks balls but I think this will be endemic and part of the annual flu cocktail, for better or for worse
that said it's still a wonderful world out there folks. Get out there and get after it (unless you're in Australia in which case I'd probably be in jail)
Almost certainly if it's approved. Side effects weren't the best but nothing crazy like that earlier poster's neighbor so should be ok.
It is only a matter of time before you are labeled a liberal. Tbh, I am not even sure what any of this has to do with being liberal or conservative.
Between that and the recent FOX thread I made maybe lol
But I'm against vaccines being federally mandated so I'd still be a conservative unless you argue Biden's recent edict is progressive.
Considering that vaccines don't hinder the spread of the Delta variant the justification is questionable at best. Not to mention the OSHA part is almost certainly unconstitutional and will get tossed when it goes to court
I got it anyways. Like whats the government gonna track with my arm? How many jerks it takes to make me cum?
The group with the highest vaccine hesitancy there is African Americans. Truly unfortunate that a segregation style policy is being implemented there. Shows you despite the MSM narrative nothing has changed about the Democratic party in 50+ years (look who voted in favor of Civil Rights and who didn't). Maybe the composition of the parties changed, but the stances of the elites never did.
I think this is going to be devastating for the dem party to be honest.
Except the purpose is to get people vaccinated, not stop black people from going to white restaurants or schools. If all it took was going to any hospital and getting a shot to enter segregated restaurants then the civil rights movement would have been much different
Sorry I might be out of the loop, but what is mental Hygiene?
Fuck no - got my first shot and lost my sense of smell completely. Never got my second. It’s been 7 months and still nothing.
I had covid and it was a walk in the park, didn’t even lose my sense of smell. Was sick as a dog after getting the praised vaccine. Obviously biased but I’m done with this shit
Those who doesn't believe in mRNA should go for the AstraZeneca shots. AZ vaccines are developed using traditional vaccine technologies while Novavax, Moderna, Sinovac and Pfizer are developed using mRNA. Blood clots are the main issue for death when receiving the shots, second is defensive shock. Most cases of defensive shock are using mRNA vaccines. And blood clots for reference the person who commented their neighbor got it amputated probably have health issues, or APS or they don't workout.
AZ isn't available in the US
Oh I didn't know that. What else do you guys have?
Considering that past infection is significantly more effective than vaccination. It would make a lot of sense to have certified prior positive test be used in the place of a vaccination card. Would have an incredible amount of respect for any company that does this. Tough to take the CDC seriously when they totally ignore natural immunity.
As someone who had Covid, I cant imagine voting for anyone who supports these mandatory vaccinations regardless of prior infection status again in my lifetime.
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavi…
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20211031/covid-vax…
Studies by Johns Hopkins show that natural immunity tends to wear off slower than the vaccine. The CDC says it's 5x more effective. But there is still being research done and it is a point of contention. Why not just get a shot that has a 99.999999% survival rate, even if you've had COVID before? Please explain what's so scary about it.
How many times is one expected to get it? Is someone ever going to be allowed to not get a booster?
I actually got the vaccine--and I have absolutely ZERO intention on getting the boosters.
I do plan to get the booster. I would have already gotten it had it not been such a hassle to finding a location taking an appointment for someone my age. I guess I've just been procrastinating because I hate administrative work.
How are employers handling it in Florida/Texas? Can anyone chime in?
Employers here in TX are still allowed to require proof of vaccination to come into the office, especially multi-domicile businesses. But the state government isn't weighing in one way or another and letting businesses run themselves how they best feel fit. City/county governments can still set their own vaccination proof needs for their own staff, and the state again won't lift a finger one way or the other.
Masked, quadruple vax'd, flu vax'd, always paid my tax, rolling up to da club wearing six rubbers in five masks
But are you on that not so little blue pill? No kids I'm not talking Viagra.
I don't understand what's so hard about this. You will get as many shots as Dr. Fauci says you need. Just trust THE SCIENCE™ and don't ask any questions, you all are far too stupid to understand His reasoning
I deplore Anthony Fauci. I think he's one of the the worst people in America, and in a just society the man would be hanged in the public square. That said, I independently assess the data, and independently I've concluded that the vaccines make sense for most adults (that is, there is more benefit than risk). Karl Marx had some insightful observations, too, even though his philosophy was arguably the most evil in human history.
No one can possibly know what decision makes sense for otherwise young and healthy people today because the COVID data and narratives have been so obfuscated and politicized at this point that it is impossible to distinguish between true facts and propoganda, and those issues are before we even begin to acknowledge the lack of meaningful long-term safety and efficacy data from this vaccine, because after all, this disease and corresponding vaccines have been with us for less than two years. In light of all the aforementioned, it comes down to a personal decision for each individual to decide what is best for him or her.
You want to hang Fauci? Are you also gonna shoot teachers for making you get your measles shot? The right is unchained. Comparing the standard public health protocols for the past hundred years with authoritarian communism is just insulting to those who were persecuted under those regimes.
he's right but way too narrowly focused. to clamp down forever does more harm than good
Still at zero.
1) Something that was sold as the end of Wuhan Coronavirus somehow stops working withing 6 months and you need multiple doses
2) Too many athletes collapsing
3) Zero responsibility for companies and governments, it's voluntary if if anything happens is on you.
4) Deranged restrictions
Wait but the CEO of Pfizer said a 4th shot may help with *insert random variant here* !!!
Im just waiting for the subscription service
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Yeah, the actual science. You know, all those studies funded by the CDC/big Pharma. Me and you and Drumpfy agree it's total tinfoil hat shit to consider that maybe Pfizer doesn't really want the pandemic to end because they have nothing to lose and everything to gain from governments forcing everyone regardless of age, preexisting conditions, or natural immunity to consume their product twice a year in perpetuity in order to participate in society. Only total right wing nut jobs don't blindly trust American pharmaceutical companies to act benevolently
If Pfizer wanted COVID to continue, then why would they manufacture drugs that prevent COVID? The pandemic, as well as the creation of new variants, are driven by the unvaccinated.
Yep, we live in a time period where men have never had to deal with the grim reality of infectious diseases that we have worked so hard to put behind us. So they spread conspiracy nonsense, get sick, and die from it.
Who knew Keith Olberman was on WSO
It's bizarre to me that in your warped reality, the "weak men" are the minority (I think we have over 70% vaccinated by now) comprised of racial minorities and working class whites in this country, many of whom already have natural immunity, who just want to go back to living life, working, going out, doing what they please without having to show their papers to anyone. Meanwhile, the "strong men" are the elite white liberals like yourself who will do whatever the government tells them without question or any healthy skepticism and belittle those that want to make their own health decisions using their own personal health profiles and advice from their own personal doctors. Go get some fresh air, Rachel Maddow will still be there to make you feel strong and tough tomorrow night
How many ‘shots’ do you recommend?
"iT Is TOtalLy SaFE"
For the people saying it is Republicans politicizing it, can anyone articulate why over 50% of African Americans are unvaccinated? or the majority of Hispanics not being fully vaccinated?
Any deaths that happen within some time after getting the vaccine are required to be entered into the VAERS database. That doesn't imply causation of any sort. You know how COVID skeptics love to say "tHEY aCTUALLY dIED oF hEART aTTACKS bUT gUBBERMENT sAID iT wAS cOVID" when confronted with the high COVID death toll? Well you're doing just that; almost none of the people in that database died from the vaccine
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/scicheck-viral-posts-misuse-vaers-dat…
Yeah you're right - I'm sure there is no correlation between the VAERS database and the vaccines that are being forced on people. Make your own choice and I genuinely hope you or anyone else doesn't get adverse effects but to pretend people aren't suffering severe illnesses from the vaccine is a blatant lie (look at all the soccer players). You also ignored the racial statistics proving it isn't just republicans - it is people who rightly or wrongly believe they've been marginalized by the government and as a result, don't trust them. I'm not going to fight with you anymore but you are making broad generalization about things that are either false or have yet to be proven one way or another.
serious question - why do you care if others get the vax if you're protected (either through multiple vaxxes/prior infection/both)? if the vax offers protection, what's all the fuss about?
I've not heard a logical if this then that response to it, just either people saying they'll never get the shot or people screaming "JUST SHUT UP AND TAKE IT" of which neither are helpful
anybody?
Serious answer: a narrative has been erected which claims that if there are unvaccinated communities, there will be a continued high degree of contagion and viral transmission between members of those communities which will, given enough time, inevitably lead to a mutation which breaks through the herd immunity, and hence waste all of the good work of the people who got vaccinated, bringing us back two years to the beginning of the pandemic, and once again put at risk the health of the most vulnerable in society.
This is sophistry. It plainly leverages psychological biases (loss aversion, tribalism) to drive a desired behaviour, based only loosely around observable evidence. As a result there are is a small but significant minority of people who are genuinely terrified that the existence of the unvaccinated puts them in grave personal danger.
I think this is trivial to deconstruct and am half-tempted to write a whole essay on this, but I think this answers your question.
thank you, I'd not thought of it that, probably because it is sophistry
and to the people who are terrified of the existence of unvaccinated, so be it. there's no cure for stupid and you'll never be 100% safe. if that's their definition of safe, we'd have to have a global world order with 100% vaccination mandates and inevitably mother nature will throw us a curveball and we'll have to repeat the whole experiment over again. fuck that. we are not God. mother nature will do its thing, so I say protect yourself the way you feel works best (shot(s), mask, no travel, whatever), but totalitarianism has a far greater death toll than any coronavirus that's ever existed, and is way harder to kill.
How is it false?
Viruses spread among the unvaccinated far faster.
Mutations are created as the viruses spread.
New mutations are either more infectious, more deadly, or more resistant to vaccines.
It's not certain that the unvaccinated will cause a variant so bad it will put us back to the start of the pandemic, but it is possible. No biases, just science.
Source:
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/unvaccinated-people-are-increasi…
Just comply and you’ll get your freedoms back. Trust big pharma
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