Street's View on Villanova?

in my s&t class at a top 3 bb, out of roughly 50-60 students, 3-4 were from nova. I'm not sure if that is target or semi target, personally I believe if they recruit at your school you are a target regardless of whether they pick 3 kids or 10 kids.

Can't say what its like in banking though, sorry.

non-target

are you in banking, sales trading?

In the end of March the RISE Symposium was held in Dayton, Ohio. It is pretty much a symposium where schools that have or don't have portfolios under management by students are invited. So anyways, we were a small group from our investment club and a couple of professors. And we had a connecting flight in Philly to Dayton. So about an hour before our flight we see another group of students with a Prof. So one of our professors (very intelligent older Prof., used to teach in Harvard) approached the Villanova Prof. just to introduce himself politely. So our professor is like: "Nice to meet you we are from XXX school, how are you doing?" The Villanova Prof. looks at him arrogantly: "Very good we are number 12!"

Nothing personal against the person that asked, I am sure it's a great school but I haven't seen more snobby and arrogant people and I have been to most of the New England schools.

Non-target, no analysts form Nova in my class.

not sure if i agree that they are non target. I can think of 4-5 major banks that have a handful of nova analysts in their classes. The school i went to was non target.

If a school consistently places a few analysts at different firms in banking and in s&t each year, I would consider them some what of a target school.

TTT, to say the least. Honestly, Villanova is the worst kind of school. Pretends to be an old line white school, but doesn't have nearly the alumni network or placement to warrant such an attitude. It isn't an elite school by any stretch, and it isn't an old boys school either.

Speaking of schools, all you current Wall Street guys, whats the reputation of Uni of Southern California on the street?

...and the only smaller, non-Ivy school with an significant presence on Wall Street. Villanova School of Business (VSB) grads have a great reputation, as well as a strong alumni network called the VU Financial Club that helps students get networked and hired for internships and jobs on Wall Street. 'Nova grads are known for being loyal to their firms and one another, and there are lots of mentors out there who are helping VSB finance students and grads who are just getting started. The negative things that have been said about VSB in this discussion thread are simply not true. For the sake of full disclosure, I want to end my comment by saying that I am an assistant dean at VSB. If anyone wants to talk with a Wall Street person to get real answers to their questions about 'Nova's reputation, rather than second-hand comments based on impressions and non-factual information, please contact VSB and we will connect you with real people, with real success, and real leadership roles on Wall Street so that you can get more accurate information directly from the source. You can learn more and contact us via our website, www.business.villanova.edu.

"..and the only smaller, non-Ivy school with an significant presence on Wall Street"

Georgetown? Stanford? Duke? M.I.T.? These are all non-ivies who place the lights out lady.

"..and the only smaller, non-Ivy school with an significant presence on Wall Street"

uh...did you forget Stanford, Duke, MIT, and Berkeley aren't Ivies?

So to recap bethanie's post:

According to people at Villanova, Villanova has a great reputation.

Hahaha to Nova, I went to an East Coast private school, only the stupid rich kids went to Villanova. Anyone who was a decent student went to an Ivy or a good LAC. I'm sorry, it's not elite and it's not a target. I'd bet the people who get onto the Street from Nova have connections the majority of the time.

And as to non-Ivy--most people have covered the basics (Stanford, MIT etc.) but I doubt that Nova has more people on Wall Street than Amherst or Williams.

Villanova is not a target school at all. Average SAT is a 1270 and acceptance percentage for the incoming class hovers around 45%.

Average SATs of students that enroll, college order:

Harvard, MIT, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, Penn, Dartmouth, Duke, Columbia, Brown, NU, Chicago..... Nova

So yeah, don't see why you can put it up there with most targets

http://www.villanova.edu/studentlife/careers/ Look at the career center partners.

In Hong Kong lots of the rich international kids went to USC

On Nova - the only time that name comes into my office is during March madness

What's with all the trolls and new accounts nowadays?

Did you just comment on a post that had been left dead for 3 years?

I go to nova, am aware that it is not a target for top banks, but I would still rather be here than anywhere else. Its laughable to think that although it is more difficult to get interviews from nova than it is from an ivy that it is impossible. One of my good friends, a sophomore, just landed a summer s&t with goldman and another, junior, has a gs superday coming up for ibd and already has a lazard and BoA offer. There is a substantial pocket of students here driven to launch high finance careers and Villanova hasn't done much to hold them back.

On a side note, American Eagle representatives work with underclassmen in their intro marketing course (thus, represented as a partner) and career center partners rotate if you hit refresh.

I know two kids who went to 'nova. One works at Thompson and one works in Ops. The one who works in ops is dumb as a box of rocks, got a 2.7 at nova, and only got in because his parents donated a huge chunk to the school after his app was initially declined.

Like anything else, if you have a strong enough GPA, the weight of the brand won't hurt you that much.

My MD (global head of trading for a specific product at the BB I work for) went to Villanova. As far as I'm concerned, the smartest folks out of Villanova are just as smart as the smartest folks out of any target school. Actually, the smartest folks out of any school tend to be just as intelligent if your sample populations are big enough; the issue is that many banks have trouble filtering once they get to the top two or three deciles. Hence, it's easier for them to RECRUIT from the targets, but there's smart people everywhere.

The arguably best firm in the business, GS, does on-campus recruiting from every single school that has more than 20,000 students. This includes everything from U.W. Madison to probably a number of state schools down south. GS is a heckuvalot better at filtering candidates at the higher levels, which means they can focus on the quality of the candidate rather than selectivity numbers.

Bottom line is not to write folks off because they went to Villanova, UT Austin, or Hudson County Community College. You may wind up working for one of them some day. And frankly, my view is that the "target school" system is completely broken. I found myself having to tutor dozens of liberal arts majors from target schools during the analyst program, and frankly, I'm pretty sure that the top 5-10% of students from any flagship state school (or equivalent in terms of how competitive the admissions process) could have been running circles around about half the class. You find that the smartest students in the program were distributed among schools a little more evenly, and one of the smartest kids was from Notre Dame- a non-target (for NYC hiring, at least) school that's very similar to Villanova (except for the fact that Villanova is probably a semi-target).

UT Austin is much superior to Villanova.

This site needs more people IlliniProgrammer and AnthonyD1982 contributing to its threads. Both replies were spot-on.