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Dec 23, 2010 - 10:58pm

Is your interview in the Bahamas?

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Dec 24, 2010 - 1:25am

It isn't advisable to wear a peacoat with formal attire like a wso/">suit. Get a topcoat.

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Dec 24, 2010 - 2:22am

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Dec 28, 2010 - 10:49am

Peacoats are very casual. get a topcoat. you will look better. If you just wondering about whether it is acceptable, fine, go for it, few people will notice that you are wearing a casual coat. It's made of wool and dark coloured, so most people will be fine with it. But if you actually care about looking good, avoid wearing a peacoat with a wso/">suit. most peacoats aren't even very long...does it just cover your wso/">suit or something?

Dec 28, 2010 - 11:17am

If this coat issue is the most important factor for your preparation for an interview, I don't if I am impressed by how "prepared" you are or sorry how insecure you are.

Personally, I usually wear an overcoat. I have a peacoat, which I look better in and have wore it on occasion. I don't think anyone care, and I usually take off my coat and suitcase in the reception area anythings.

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Dec 29, 2010 - 6:13pm

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Dec 29, 2010 - 2:42am

The reason I worry is because from how it sounds, people are looking for ANY reason to ding you. I don't want to rock my interview, but then come off as a douche because I was dressed too casual for the interview. I'm extremely strapped on cash and can't afford to buy another coat.. this is why I ask. I'll try to make some extra money somewhere in this case, thanks for the help guys.

Dec 29, 2010 - 6:14pm

Pea Coat suggestions (Originally Posted: 11/24/2012)

First NY winter coming up and I am looking for winter wear advice. I like the look and feel of peacoats, but currently I only have a black one. While this is fine for going out at night, I need something differenf for the office.I am thinking navy or Charcoal gray, or there any reason I should pick one color over the other?

Thanks.

Dec 29, 2010 - 6:15pm

Navy is classic, but I don't think it will look as professional... I think of navy as being collegiate, kind of like a navy blazer with gold buttons. I personally think charcoal is your best bet because you will have another color to switch it up and it will go with just about anything (black, charcoal, lighter gray, navy) where the navy you will be more limited. Maybe you love navy and wear a lot of it, but I think charcoal is a better purchase all around.

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Dec 29, 2010 - 6:19pm

The J. Crew pea coats are great...

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Dec 29, 2010 - 6:20pm

A peacoat is inherently less formal. A gentleman in a professional environment should be wearing a topcoat, greatcoat, or car coat. Those garments lend themselves to wear with a suit, whereas a peacoat is for active use (military, sport, manual labor [fishermen, farmer, etc.]). You really ought to try to avoid wearing one into the office.

If you want a peacoat, one of my favorite is the Academy Wool peacoat from Ralph Lauren, it's actually fairly inexpensive.

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Dec 29, 2010 - 6:21pm

Got the new J. Crew peacoat, my only beef with it is that the wool irritates the neck. Other than that, I'm pretty happy with that buy.

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Dec 29, 2010 - 6:22pm

I would go for the Charcoal, works with everything.
Sure an overcoat is more formal, but for a young man you might look out of place wearing one. If you just make sure the peacoat is longer than your suit jacket and has a classy look you are fine.

Dec 29, 2010 - 3:48pm

This site can make you a bit paranoid, but I say don't worry about it. If you go in and rock your interviews, they probably won't think less of you for seeing you in a less-than-formal coat for all of 30 seconds before and after your interviews as you take off/put on your coat in the lobby.

I'm in your boat too, I wouldn't even have a formal coat at all if my father hadn't gotten me one last year.

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Dec 29, 2010 - 6:24pm

Tan Pea Coat? (Originally Posted: 08/19/2015)

Hello everyone. Does anyone have any suggestions for a nice tan pea coat for a smaller/medium build gentlemen? I'd like to get one this year. I currently been wearing an all black one for a couple years and looking to switch it up. Around the $500 range if possible.

Thanks everyone!

Dec 29, 2010 - 6:29pm

Peacoat? (Originally Posted: 10/18/2015)

Starting to get cold in NYC and and I am looking at a new winter coat.

For background, I am a young associate at a BB and have never really owned a "nice" coat. I want to buy an overcoat, but I personally think these make people at my age look oldman-ish, and they wouldnt work on weekends or out on a normal night. Basically I want something that could work over a suit (if needed), or out to a bar over normal going out attire.

To me, the most pratical thing seems to be a peacoat (the right kind of course), although I know people say these shouldnt be worn over a suit. I am not sure I really follow this... Assuming the peacoat is long enough, what is the issue here? An overcoat or topcoat would look silly when trying to use it casually. However I feel the peacoat can be used both ways. What do you guys think?

Been looking at this peacoat in particular: https://us.burberry.com/wool-cashmere-pea-coat-p38732161

What do you guys think about wearing this over a shirt/tie and on occasion, over a suit jacket?

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Dec 29, 2010 - 6:32pm

If you're willing to spend $1,000 on a peacoat, you're at the entry-level price range for a bespoke overcoat. This means you can customize the length and fit to be more age-appropriate (3/4 length vs. full-length, very tailored), add a lining for some personality, and customize all the minutia as you see fit (button color, thread color, collar felt, pocket placement, etc. etc.).

The problem with a peacoat is that it's inherently an informal jacket. That's not to say it can't look good (they're often cut better for younger figures), that they aren't worth the price, that they aren't warm and comfortable, and that they're inappropriate period. It's simply saying that it isn't traditionally the winter garment a professional male would wear.

Unfortunately, professional dress etiquette is driven by historical rules. You may have a particular sartorial bent, but any deviation from the accepted code may earn you some frowns from the old guys who have been around a long time. At best, they simply blink a few times. At worst, they get the impression you're either tasteless (don't know what you're doing) or think you're arrogant (for knowing and ignoring).

Similar to avoiding red ties during interviews, aggressive socks in your first year, French cuffs as an analyst, etc., it's better to avoid the peacoat with a suit. Will it kill you if you do it? Nope. Speaking from experience though, it's best not to rock the boat in terms of clothing as an analyst. Be known for your work product, not anything else.

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Dec 29, 2010 - 6:37pm
APAE:

If you're willing to spend $1,000 on a peacoat, you're at the entry-level price range for a bespoke overcoat. This means you can customize the length and fit to be more age-appropriate (3/4 length vs. full-length, very tailored), add a lining for some personality, and customize all the minutia as you see fit (button color, thread color, collar felt, pocket placement, etc. etc.).

The problem with a peacoat is that it's inherently an informal jacket. That's not to say it can't look good (they're often cut better for younger figures), that they aren't worth the price, that they aren't warm and comfortable, and that they're inappropriate period. It's simply saying that it isn't traditionally the winter garment a professional male would wear.

Unfortunately, professional dress etiquette is driven by historical rules. You may have a particular sartorial bent, but any deviation from the accepted code may earn you some frowns from the old guys who have been around a long time. At best, they simply blink a few times. At worst, they get the impression you're either tasteless (don't know what you're doing) or think you're arrogant (for knowing and ignoring).

Similar to avoiding red ties during interviews, aggressive socks in your first year, French cuffs as an analyst, etc., it's better to avoid the peacoat with a suit. Will it kill you if you do it? Nope. Speaking from experience though, it's best not to rock the boat in terms of clothing as an analyst. Be known for your work product, not anything else.

I always thought Burgundy/Maroon ties were pretty standard for interviews. Or was that only referring to brighter reds?

Dec 29, 2010 - 6:34pm

I agree with APAE. Go for a long(ER) overcoat for suits, you may be able to venture into the bespoke/custom world or go off the rack and buy a peacoat for about the same price. I love my peacoat and have had a really good one for years (I forget the brand but it's an old school one that the Navy uses) over multiple fashion cycles but it's not appropriate for business wear. And I think the Burberry one you're looking at is too blue for dark suits regardless but just go for the long overcoat. You can find fashionable ones that are mid-thigh and are cut more slim fit so they're not the huge baggy coats, but that's what you should wear when you're wearing a suit. Especially if you're front office IB.

Dec 29, 2010 - 6:35pm

Right but I dont only want a coat that I can wear with a suit. I will wear my suit maybe twice a week at most, thats it. I dont see the need to buy a coat that will only be worn a couple times a week. Was looking more for something that can be casual and professional at the same time. i.e. I am not going to wear an overcoat out on the weekends or to come to the office on a Sunday....

Dont you guys think a topcoat on a 24 year old looks a little ridiculous? Maybe its just me but its not very youthful and looks strange.

Any recommendations on something that might fit the above?

Dec 29, 2010 - 6:38pm
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Dont you guys think a topcoat on a 24 year old looks a little ridiculous? Maybe its just me but its not very youthful and looks strange.

Any recommendations on something that might fit the above?

Again it really depends on the style of the topcoat. Would a long, boxy coat look ridiculous? Sure. But just googling "modern cut topcoat" brought be these two:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/4a/66/d3/4a66d37fe85234e9918a…
https://assets.burberry.com/is/image/Burberryltd/0b0d8d6024cea9869e7b3c…

Both seem to have going out and professional applications

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Dec 29, 2010 - 6:39pm

Obviously go with what you want and the links above look good, but think about it this way: you bought suits specifically for work so buying a coat that specifically goes with those suits that you wear to work isn't too insane. A good overcoat lasts for a long time if you take care of it, and if you plan on staying in NYC and in finance for any decent amount of time you'll get good use of it. And you don't necessarily have to spend a ton of money on it.

But if you're going to go for a peacoat make sure it's dark enough that it will work with charcoal suits and if it's blue it's darker than your navy suits. Depending on your personal style you could also go with a Chesterfield that's cut to the mid thigh.

And I'm a little older and slightly more conservative when it comes to business dress, but no, I don't think a long coat looks odd on a 24 year old. Personally I think it looks appropriate. I also think things like backpacks look ridiculous when someone's wearing a suit and that metal watches are sports watches and leather bands are appropriate when wearing a suit.

Dec 29, 2010 - 6:41pm

What do you guys think about wearing a nice peacoat like this with business casual attire to the office? Most BBs do not require suits anymore in NYC. Most days I go in with a suit minus the jacket, and sometimes no tie. I might agree now that a topcoat might be more appropriate when wearing a full suit or on very formal occasions, but assuming I go into the office more business casual (as do most people in IB nowadays), would a peacoat still not be recommended?

Dec 29, 2010 - 6:45pm

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