Summer Intern Business Cards
Do summer interns get business cards??
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Do summer interns still have to sit at the kiddy table?
The boutique I interned in this summer gave em out. The BB I interned in the previous summer did not.
Heh, I'd have reservations about giving someone my card as an intern even if they did give it to me
I interned in IBD at a BB summer '07 and got cards, I interned at BB last summer and didnt, I highly doubt with the cost cutting going on they're wasting time and $ printing up business cards for interns
A couple years ago when I was an SA, I always wanted a business card. I must admit I was slightly d-bagish, but I wanted my business card to say "M&A" on it. Very powerful as a college junior/senior. Well turns out I finally got them on my last week because one of the analysts got really sick for like 2 weeks and I got to go to a bank meeting. I still have them, pretty sweet.
i dont even hand out business cards anymore...id rather just have my assistant shoot them my v-card but i bet in college it would have been cool to have GS business cards
Yeah, I always found my friends with business cards at least mildly amusing...
The WORST is the asshole students who print out their own business cards and give it to you at recruiting events. I have never once supported those guys and usually ding them if I can remember them when we're going through cuts.
I have yet to have this happen. I hope I get a student business card.
I go to a non-target.... Our professors, especially the ones that "know" something about IBD love/force us to get business cards with the school logo on top to give out at recruiting events etc. Mine are now at the bottom of the trash can after reading this post.
There was an entire series of posts about this before, which makes it even funnier. At recruiting events, very few people get laughed at more than a college student handing out business cards. The ones who get laughed at more are the ones who have a quite obviously memorized series of questions they ask to everyone in the room. Unless you have a job, you don't need business cards.
I got them & it didn't even say my group. Just Barcap on the top & intern twice as big in Barclays blue, I was sad ha. At least it was on some premium eggshell colored card stock.
I got them & it didn't even say my group. Just Barcap on the top & intern twice as big in Barclays blue, I was sad ha. At least it was on some premium eggshell colored card stock.
When I was interviewing for full-time spots last year, a kid from Ivey handed out a business card to everybody else that was interviewing. I think he was trying to intimidate us because he had a business card. He didn't get an offer.
Who the hell makes their own business cards? Very pathetic. Btw, I’m not sure how it works out in BBs, but I think it depends on which division you work at. And most importantly, it really depends on whether you get to have a chance of following a meeting. For business norms and customs, you have to hand out you’re business card in those sort of situations.
It'd be nice to have Goldman Asset Management business cards but I'm not going to tool myself out to get them (especially not by myself). I can't really think of a situation where we SAs would need them. Personally I'd laugh if I were handed one by a SA.
On the IBD side, some firms do give business cards. (there really is no need on the S&T side). I have business cards from a competing bank with the title summer analyst. For any major IB, business cards are cheap (single digit costs for a giant box) and a set for an incoming intern class would cost less than what the freebies at recruitment events cost. The reason why some banks don't give it out to interns is reputational risk. You can have some pretty imature interns and if you're running the intern program, the last thing you want is your interns to be trying to pick up someone at a bar with their freshly minted business cards."
I work at a middle market shop that only hires a handful of interns and we give them business cards. Our cards don't have a title on them, so theoretically the summer intern could pretend to be a full time employee if they so desired. In fact, we even allow the intern to put their cell phone numbers on the card in place of their direct line so that the cards aren't entirely worthless when they leave the joint.
Folks, remember, part of the summer analyst program is to convince the SAs that your company is great and to go back and tell all their friends in school about it, thus driving up applications. Not to mention you want the SA to accept a job offer if you give it to them at the end of the summer. It is quite beneficial to companies to make minor investments to make SAs feel special and spread the brand across campus.
Now, all that said, students having business cards really doesn't make sense in my opinion.
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You think students giving out their "business" cards to recruiters at career days is bad? Some of these assholes actually give out their personal cards to fellow students. Holy shit, what kind of egos do these d-bags have??
Wow, this thread is extremely interesting. I actually attended a JP Morgan recruiting event earlier this year and they gave all of the attendees business cards which had a spot for them to write in their name. You were supposed to network with the JP Morgan representatives and hand out your business cards as you saw fit. I thought that even that was bizarre and tacky. I can't imagine students printing out their own business cards...
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My bank does this as well, we ask students to fill in a few cards with their details for the networking session. You're told to have a 'yes' and 'no' pocket so you don't have to remember people. Yes pocket cards go to HR, no cards go in the trash.
Any student with a pre-printed personal card is ALWAYS a no, the fact that they can't see how inappropriate they are means they are unsuitable to be hired, talked to, looked at, ackowledged as a human being....
I was at a conference a while ago and all the student entrepreneurs had their own business cards and handed them out to everyone. Almost made me with I had my own - so much easier to keep track of where the person's from. I suppose that is a different context though. Cards are handy at non-recruiting networking occasions. Just don't give them to the wrong people (recruiters, people of a more senior position)
Every single MBA at my school prints out biz cards with the title "candidate for __" on them. Some undergraduates do it too, but again my school has an alarmingly high share share of dbags, so that's just my 2 cents.
maybe this applies to banking, but i can tell you that if a kid gave out a card to a S&T desk he would be dinged faster than he gets rejected by girls when he's out.
This might be an unpopular opinion...
I agree that the students handing out the cards may have slightly oversized egos... but all these people making it sound like the end of the world also have some ego issues. Are you really that superior of a human being that merely receiving a card from someone who probably doesn't need to be carrying any makes them "sad", "pathetic", "asshole" "tools & d-bags" in your eyes? A bit overdramatic, no?
Yes we have hugely oversized egos, that's how we got jobs in this business. Also, we are that superior to those silly little people who give business cards.
In all seriousness, recruiting is a dog eat dog experience and we use any excuse to cull the herd.
@ cdnbanker - Do you work full-time for a living? If so, you will understand that when you're hiring for your team, a pretty big consideration is a very basic question: "Do I want to be working next to/with this guy for the next X amount of time?"
If you don't work for a living, that fundamental insight will increase your interview success rate by 57%.
It explains why people ding dbags who print out their own cards, morons with low SAT scores, lazy assholes with poor GPAs, morons/lazy assholes from shitty schools, socially inept idiot who puts LARPing as an interest, weirdos who slouch in their interviews and dress like idiots, etc.
Could these people be smart, nice, down to earth, cool, professional? Maybe... but why take the chance?
Maybe it's the norm in Canada, but down here, we frown upon such behavior.
As douchy as the student business cards for recuriting events sound, they do work.
Put yourself in the campus rep's shoes. The typical rep that comes onto campus is probably worrying about that deal they're working on while they're there. They get bombarded with overly eager candidates asking very similar questions. The night becomes a blur and finally HR ends the session so you can go back to your hotel room and answer all those work e-mails you've avoided for the last two hours.
The next day, the recruiter asks for feedback on who you saw yesterday and what your thoughts are. Panic runs through the rep, finally recalling that this trip was not a free trip back to your alma mater and to have a few drinks with people you know. The rep scrambles for names to talk about, and guess who makes this reps list, the d-bag kid that had their own business card and anyone that sent a thank-you e-mail.
You'd be surprised by how few people actually reach out to campus reps. I'd give out 100+ business cards and only get about 10 e-mails. Pretty easy to sort out that people that really care with those that don't.
At campus recruiting events, have 2 goals 1) Get the info you need on the company, have any questions answered 2) Get as many people to REMEMBER you as possible. It doesn't matter if you have their business card, if they don't remember you, it doesn't count.
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