Resources for finding an internship?
Hey guys, back at it again with the freshie questions.
I just finished my freshman year in undergrad and this summer I will be studying abroad in London, studying financial markets on canary wharf and participating in Bloomberg terminal intro training. Very exciting for me.
However, I live in the Northern Virginia/D.C. area, and want to start looking at places I should be targeting for my post-sophomore year summer. I see that a lot of sophomores are able to successfully get PWM internships on LinkedIn. Now, IB is my goal but I realize I might not have the education to be doing that yet. If it is possible for a better internship I would absolutely hop on it; but what kind of online resource can I use to gather a list of places to apply/cold call over this upcoming fall-winter? The typical indeed and google search is kind of vague and doesn't bring up anything relevant, just accounting clerk jobs that require experience.
I realize that maybe most of these internships I'm seeing are acquired through cold calling and networking, however, my issue is finding places to reach out to.
Can anyone steer my in the right direction? It would be greatly appreciated, +SB for all helpful comments.
I googled PWM in -city near me-, found the biography pages, and emailed financial advisors.
took about a week and I had a job for this summer.
PWM isn't terribly hard to find, you can just googlefu.
Awesome! When reaching out to these advisors, were you explaining your situation and asking for a chat sesh or getting straight to it and asking if they could use any interns?
Tbh, in the beginning I cold emailed asking for just a chat. I got a few answers, didn't get anywhere.
So I started emailing and literally asking for an internship. I have a different skillset than most people asking for internships so I got it that way, so idk what your luck would be drawing attention there. If I got a PWM internship before my first year of college, I believe you can too bucko.
pm me for more info and I'll go into more detail about what I did specifically.
Since I just went through the brutal recruiting season I wish every freshie can have a easier one than mine. Here's what I would do, in the order of priority: 1. Your school internship site, usually hosted by career center. Check that out. 2. Various big companies website. Google them yourselves, but only ones that are big enough to have local offices in your area. Also in the process sign up for recruiting newsletter from those firms if you see one. 3. LinkedIn. Now companies list their openings on LinkedIn as well. I would recommend getting LinkedIn premium for job hunters. Expensive but pretty legit. Also don't forget to connect with Alums working in IB if you can track them down on LinkedIn. Most of them would be more than happy to help. I would help people out if I see a message from people from my school.
When researching companies online, don't forget to apply online to open positions, even they are not in your area, because then your data would be saved to their database and I know companies do email appropriate past candidates if they have new positions open. Hope this helps and good luck!
Ahhh number 3 has been on my mind. It's not too much for me to connect w/ people in order to chat w/ them on LinkedIn? I thought it was taboo to connect with someone before you actually have met/talked.
not really. have been doing that last year. just make sure you leave a nice note with the invite. after i put my BB internship on there i got a lot of random invites and i am happy to add people as long as they are not rude
Use the WSO Company Database and search by geography/
Funny, I didn't even think of that. Thanks!
You could also just google a list of banks / PWM firms.
bump. anything else?
How can my friend find a finance internship? (Originally Posted: 02/26/2009)
Hey guys I am trying to help my friend find a finance-related internship. The problem is that she or her family does not have any contacts at any kind of banks or fortune 500 companies at all. While she is just a freshman (like me), what she has going for her is that she to a ivy and has a 4.0 from last semester.
How would you recommend for her to get a internship (she just wants anything finance related, it doesn't have to be hardcore like IB or anything)? Will cold-calling work? I think she will be going back home during spring break. Is showing up a office (and calling beforehand) to inquire about summer opportunities appropriate?
Thanks so much
If she goes to an Ivy and has 4.0 GPA, she can handle herself. All she needs to do is just log on to school career development database and pick what she likes.
Absolutely not true. In this market you need a 3.8+ and experience to land something. 4.0 doesn't mean all that much.
Is the pretense really necessary?
What abst said about sums up the answer.
I'm serious. I already have (luckily) found myself a internship, and am now helping my friend. Is that too hard to believe?
hahaha. You gotta have more faith in the world man Don't tell me Wall St makes people so cold or selfish
Wait til you try and buy a used book at the bookstore to find out later the homework questions are blacked out... that'll make you cold and independent
yeah, sounds like you like her. Give her your internship. =p
Alright, enough with making fun of poor freshman. Getting serious internship at Fortune 500 in finance will be pretty damn hard w/o networking (unless she'll apply for special freshman program, although I've never heard of such programs). The problem is, in current state a lot of well-qualified Juniors could not get internships they wanted (mostly within IB/PE/Consulting). So now we have a lot of well-qualified, high GPA or impressive work experience (or even both) Juniors bombarding every single finance internship because at this point any summer internship is better than nothing.
Also we have a lot of wanna-start-early sophomores. Some of them already had internships at BB/MBB/Big 4 and could easily compete with Juniors.
And finally there are Seniors who are staying for extra quarter/semester/year.
P.S.: I might be wrong, so wait for other people to say something
At this point, she better network (and start quick) if she wants any chance at getting an internship for the summer.
two words: "sexual favors"
seriously? this forum has become a complete joke.
pussinboots hit the nail on the head
Gameplan To Find An Internship (Originally Posted: 01/25/2011)
Hello there, WSO! I've been lurking the forums for a while now, but I've just decided to create an account and post a question.
Alright, so I'm a high school senior (no, wait, wait! Don't roll your eyes and click on the X! Hear me out!) who is looking towards a career in finance. I've already had two internships, one at a commodity information provider, and one at a PWM office of a major Bulge. Well, that's good, I suppose.
I've also self studied finance - and I don't mean I just read "Liars Poker", a Cramer (shudders) book, or some BS about technical analysis or something. No, I bought some university textbooks, including a corporate finance textbook, a Financial Statement Analysis textbook, and a standard intro to Investments textbook. Other than that I've read some classics like Graham and Fischer. So let's suppose I'm at least possibly competent.
So my goal is to leverage my work experience to actually be able to land an internship (in banking, PE, or HF... anything, even unpaid, as long as I can learn at least a little bit of modeling.) I've cold-emailed regional finance firms, and have gotten some positive responses, but those have been for more consulting-like firms. The issue is I don't live in a terrific area for this sort of stuff (Washington, DC metropolitan area.)
So, finally, to my questions: 1) What should my gameplan be? And please, don't say something like take the summer off... especially since my chances of getting into a target school are looking pretty grim... 2) Other than the "regional boutiques" thread, anyone have a list of firms, or better yet, contacts, (again, Banks, PE, or HF) for the DC area? Or even better better yet, any contact that might need some cheap (or even free) labor for over the summer?
Thanks WSO, I appreciate it!
Shudders...
ArbitRAGE, can you explain your comment? And can anyone offer some assistance please?
Dude I think it was wrong for you to spend so much time learning finance topics rather than focusing on getting into a target. I'd consider a gameplan to transfer into a target first. Read the other threads and you'll realize that networking is a huge part of success. Devote the summer to doing something relevant and try to pick up contacts through your family. When you get to school, reach out to alumni who can help your situation. Other than that, I'm not sure why you need to try so hard, but good luck.
Keep talking like that and myself, along with MrFuture are going to punch you through the computer screen.
In all seriousness just take what you can. Since you're so young, anything you get will put you ahead of the majority of your peers.
I may consider transferring into a target. My SAT is good - 2340/2400, but my GPA is kind of lacking (decent, but not great.) At best I end up at at a semi-target (before transfer).
Any other answers, ESPECIALLY for question 2?
Thanks a bunch guys, I do appreciate it.
Search for a thread that was posted a while back on 200+ contacts for IBs
HarvardOrBust, thanks, I've already perused that thread. Naturally, very few in the DC area.
Bumping :}
Alright, shamelessly bumping again. Anybody else?
Do you know how to have a conversation with someone you never met...this is very important... having all the talent in the world doesn't mean much unless your a quant, if aren't personable. Target, non-target eh, doesn't matter much. What matters is knowing what you want and how to get it. where you go to school...eh. its a badge.
Also. inb4 Pymp on target>anything else.
WSO-ers don't take to kindly to high school folk...
this is coming from a fellow HS senior
Yeah... I've noticed. Heh. Any success on your end, SpencerMakesBank?
If by success you mean monkey shit... then yes.
Edit - I take that back. There is a lot of really helpful people on this site, but they are certainly the minority
This is why you get no help, your know it all attitude.
People in the industry are telling you, should slow down and you are telling them they aren't helpful?
Sounds like you'd like more shit
go travel, learn a new language.
To be honest, I looked at your threads Spencer, and I would probably respond similarly to the majority... :\ The trick is asking a legitimate question.
I haven't been given any "shit" here, they're all perfectly legitimate answers (thanks guys), but I don't want to "go travel, learn a new language" or whatnot. Especially since I have no money for that, haha. And if it's being a lifeguard over some internship, I'd choose the internship (even if unpaid) in a flash.
Please... please.... if you want to argue, don't leach off of my thread for it. Anyone else with some tips?
1) What should my gameplan be? And please, don't say something like take the summer off... especially since my chances of getting into a target school are looking pretty grim... 2) Other than the "regional boutiques" thread, anyone have a list of firms, or better yet, contacts, (again, Banks, PE, or HF) for the DC area? Or even better better yet, any contact that might need some cheap (or even free) labor for over the summer?
Relax... you've accomplished more than some people I know who have finished uni by the looks of it. Assuming that you understand a lot of that material you cited.
PWM at a BB.
Please keep in mind that you also need to figure out for yourself the answers to questions before coming on here. Most people haven't got incentives to help people out. Moreover, people have incentives to stop you from entering the industry (more competition) so keep that in mind.
It naturally follows that since people on here appear have very little incentive to help you on average, you need to be respectful and thankful when someone does. Additionally.. a vast amount of queries have already been answered, use the search function.
You might want to use your personal contacts for this information, I've found they are the most reliable sources.
1) Just do as many internships as you can over summer. If they don't take freshmen, I'm sure your performance manager at your PWM placement will help you. Don't slow down if you don't want to, but keep in mind that you have a lot of time before you graduate and no small set of unfortunate incidents should beat you down.
2) Sorry not in DC. Think for yourself how you'd find out. Ask friends. If you did 2 placements, surely your friends from there can help you out?
Good luck mate.
Thanks GotBushels, I appreciate it! As for "It naturally follows that since people on here appear have very little incentive to help you on average, you need to be respectful and thankful when someone does", I try to, and I think I've been pretty respectful so far. WSO can let me know if I'm being a dick.
Well, WSO, I've already massed a list of like 150 companies, and when I'm all done I think I'll post em' out with contact information (nothing confidential there, everything can be found on the web... I just took the time to compile.) Might as well do the community a service ;P
Gameplan: 1) Get into a good college 2) ? 3) Profit
Sigh.
Enjoy life kid.
Sigh.
euroazn...what a coincidence
I'm also a senior in HS with similar aspirations; and we both have 'euro' in our usernames! what are the odds of that? It looks like we're each other's competition ;)
Lol first to a billion wins ;)
But, on a more serious note, any luck finding an internship?
Well I have an internship at a BB Wealth Management branch, but honestly it's nothing special. (My school requires an internship every Wednesday instead of going to classes.) Haven't learned much... just stuffing envelopes so I have no idea how I'm going to spin this on my resume.
...and yea I too am trying to find a decent summer internship, but no luck yet.
created a faster process to stuff envelopes
I'd say having a BB PWM internship as a high school senior already puts you way ahead of most people. And obviously no one's gonna expect you to get any real work there as a high schooler anyways. It's almost always gonna be clerical.
While that's true, having a banking internship or the like... would be nice. :)
As a HS senior, the most you could do for a bank is also stuff envelopes. Besides, who would trust a bank that let HSchoolers do analyst-level work?
good point
As a senior you should be enjoying life. You won't have the same kind of free time in college. I doubt you've done anything substantial at the places you were at before so that really won't help you get something worth it unless you have a very strong contact at a boutique.
Some helpful tips would be to follow the markets and also get better with your Excel. Since you're probably not going to be at a target, networking is key. If you want to get a headstart, you should coldcall people in banks and see if they would be willing to do informational interviews. Try to meet and chat with them so that you develop a relationship. Knowing the markets will help more in a conversation than something out of your Corporate finance textbook.
FInding a Internship (Originally Posted: 09/10/2009)
Has anyone had any success in contacting HR of a firm and asking if they have any internship programs available? Not specifically for IB, all divisions. My school works through Coop and doesn't really have too many great internships available during the school year but I know kids get them at firms. Do you advise calling firms and asking them directly if they have anything available?
bump
Some BB are already recruiting online for 2010 summer internships. Check out their career webpage.
I'd suggest that all of the medium to large banks have internship opportunities. Calling and asking "what internship opportunities you have available" isn't going to be that productive.
I just randomly selected a few, but you can search "day in the life" on the Gotta Mentor site and read a bunch more S&T Summer Rotation: A Day in the Life - http://bit.ly/3YMQx8 A day in the life of an Investment Banking coverage summer intern - http://bit.ly/1fH2u
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Thanks guys but I was talking about internships in the fall and spring. They're not listed anywhere.
Finding Internships (Originally Posted: 11/07/2009)
I'm a first year student in Toronto. People keep suggesting to get an internship this summer. Should I bring my crappy resume to a local bank and ask if they have anything available ? Any places to look online ? I have a job board at my university but most internships there ask for 3rd year undergraduate... any suggestions ?
As a first year, it's tough to get a position on your school's job board or career fair. It's still worth giving going to career fairs, however, as you can gain networking experience and a feel for what to except when you become a second or third year.
Internship experience is definitely very important, but don't be disheartened if you can't get an amazing internship as a first year. Most people who do get internships their first year have family connections, so if you do, definitely work that route. Otherwise, I recommend going to local banks, etc... and talking to the people to show you are hardworking and willing to do grunt work (which is all you'll really get as a first year). Also try to focus on smaller/midsized private companies. I was able to land an internship my first year by talking to the CEO of a small company. It was a great experience that gave me a lot of good stories to tell during my subsequent interviews.
Hope this helped!
Unfortunately I don't know any small businesses around Toronto. I'm trying to find some right now. Thanks for your reply ;)
Finding an investment bank to intern for. (Originally Posted: 02/15/2010)
I'm not requesting a list. I know there are plenty around here, but I would like to know what I am looking for in a company that I want to intern for. I found an Edward Jones branch by me and I was about to apply, but doing some research here found that they're line of work isn't really what I'm looking for.
What I'm asking for is if I want to go into the investment field, what type of company am I looking for?
Also, How can I find boutique banks in my area and distinguish them from something I would waste my time interning for?
I found this local investment firm: http://www.firstinvestors.com/content/careers/internships.html will this offer me good experience in the field or is this on the other side of the Chinese wall from investment banking?
I think this is just another FA gig, not unlike Edward Jones.
Keep hunting.
Ok thank you. Any input on what makes a Boutique Bank separate from these other two I checked out? Or how to find those in my area?
A boutique investment bank essentially is a small niche investment bank that focuses on a limited scope of industries or product groups. The two that you checked out are financial advisory positions that will help you move into private wealth management/ private bank but not into investment banking. Check the forum threads, there was definitely comprehensive lists of boutique investment banks in different cities that will work on advisory for businesses in m&a, restructuring of debt, project finance. Few have balance sheets big enough to do any sort of underwriting, but that's ok.
There are also boutique firms that focus on investment/asset management, which is the firm's handling of investments/accounts for institutional investors.
I think what you need to look for is something related to investment management/ investment banking - which relates to portfolio management and corporate finance advisory, respectively.
Good luck
Thanks alot of the extensive response.
Where does one find an Internship in NYC? (Originally Posted: 07/14/2010)
Hi everyone, newbie here =)
So, I'm having a bit of a crisis. I'm a senior at St.John's University here in NYC. I'm majoring in Finance and my graduation is this upcoming January (BS in Finance, in addition to my AS in Finance). Plans after graduation are to get an MBA either in Finance or Hedge Fund Management. I'm a bright girl but I’m having such a difficult time: - can't find a suitable internship -sent over 300 resumes and the only companies that contact me are life insurance and marketing (to sell something... No thanks)
I have a pretty good resume; I don't understand why I'm not a "suitable candidate".
I'd really like an internship in Hedge Funds, Financial Advisory, Analyst, anything related to my major. I don't care about the pay I would just really like to learn about the functions and be present at the work scene.
Can someone advise me of where to look for an internship or at least give some tip on how to score one?
Thanks =)
resume??
MBA in hedge fund management/facepalm right after graduation.
face palm
Best bet would be to cold call boutique shops... there are tons of them in NYC.
i learned today that craigslist has opportunities
By really good resume do you mean summers at a hedge fund or summers at your local walmart..?
I've uploaded it take a look. I meant, I recently turned 21 and I have work experience pretty much since 13 and no it's not waitressing or working in Wallmart. Now, I’d like to get more and more knowledge and work experience and it seems impossible. Believe me, I’m working my butt off
1st off bro you need to figure out what the hell you want. Throwing shit against the wall and seeing if it sticks is a good way to get drunk girls, but will turn off a lot of employers. Randomly sending emails isn't a good way either. Start networking, reaching out to alumni, asking if their firm is interested in an unpaid intern. It will take a while and you will need to track who you send emails to so you can follow up, but by and large something will come from it.
If you are not on Linkedin and utilizing it I suggest you do so now.
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I'm a gal not a bro =D I don't send my resume randomly. I've singed up to many websites such as JPMorgan, Wells Fargo, HSBC, Citi, etc. and I send my resume to the jobs they offer. Also, I do research on NYC companies and give them a call asking if it's possible to send a resume for an Intern position. I network but honestly it's doing very little to my benefit that's why I've posted the question in the 1st place. As for Linkedin, I've been there
Ya welcome to the 99.9% of applicants that get rejected from large firms
get off ur horse
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You're absolutely right. However, here's the situation: I walk into a JP Morgan Chase here on Park Avenue; I get approached by at least 4-5 male workers (why? I'm a good looking girl and I’m assuming they're personal bankers). As soon as I ask “whom would I be able to speak with regarding a possible employment" they run away, of course. I see a manager of the branch and what do I hear? “Submit your resume on our website". Let's just say it happens in every single company I go to, always been told to submit online. They don't want to hear it; they're too busy scratching their ehm.
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What are you trying to do? Do you have any internships under your belt? You really think just because you walk into JPM you are going to be given an internship...lol...it seems like you have a lot of learning to do about the industry. As for MBA, you should be working for 3-4 years before even thinking about going back to get an MBA. Maybe you should look at just getting something under your belt like PWM or something along those lines. You need to learn more about the industry and what you want before you can even begin effectively networking. WHy dont you post your resume and we can go from there by giving you feedback.
If you are a good looking girl, they probably turned away the minute you asked for a job because they don't want to get sued for having an attractive employee
I submitted my resume on the site, can you guys see it?
no you need to post a link for us to see it.
First off, St John's is a non-target so I'm not surprised if only 0-1 stj grads get into firms like JPM/GS/MS each year. That said, the school does send a bunch of kids to big4 accounting firms and given your current situation I strongly recommend you to try out big4 to boost your chance and you can always break into finance later. Start looking for unpaid internships offered by boutique shops as well and forget about the big banks' online applications.
Finding an internship in trading starting now (Originally Posted: 02/26/2011)
Hey guys,
Clueless question here - I'm starting a two years master in finance at a top program next fall and am looking to get into an internship in the mean time to get more experience and boost my chances at being selective next summer. I don't really care about prestige or pay and am just looking to learn. Given that it's almost March, are there still internships that would provide a useful experience in S&T for this summer?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
call/email hfs. or read lots of books while trading your PA.
I am in the similar position. I am currently in a master program in mathematics, no work experience besides summer internships (top 25 undergrad, Finance/Maths). Looking to learn...
need to find an internship! (Originally Posted: 02/27/2011)
hey everyone,
I'm looking for an internship in IB or ER and right now I have no options. I'm a junior, so having an internship is crucial for me. I really want to be in LA but at this point, I don't think I can be picky about my location. starting monday, I'm going to cold email a lot of MDs (esp in LA) to inquire about their openings..does anyone know how I should approach this? has anyone heard of any success with it?
I've tried networking but nobody has gotten back to me yet :(
what else can I do?
thanks!
3 letters: PWM
what about in terms of IBD or ER? how common is off-cycle recruiting?
Man up and start networking for real.
I agree with turtle. It's pretty late, so you should try to contact an alumnus and see if you could get a pwm internship. If not, just start cold calling...and yes, Man up.
should I cold call MDs directly? or cold call people working there and emial MDs?
Um, do not cold call MDs. E-mail at least first. If you're going to cold call, try the main number ...
I would contact analysts, as well, if you can. Most will be direct with you if there is no hope and usually no more about possible off-cycle opps compared to HR people
hahaha never ever cold call an MD
Am I on the right track with finding an Internship?? (Originally Posted: 08/15/2011)
Here's my story quickly, I am a Biology major minoring in business. My GPA is around a 3.3 but it is going up quickly.( I jumped from 3.0 to 3.5 which gives me that average) I was originally planning on going to med school but financially there is no way it is going to happen. I've been tossing between IB and Medicine for the last few years but decided to stick with medicine after coming so far and by the influence of my advisor. But, now that I am officially out of that field I really need to find an internship I don't go to a top school. I actually go to Northeastern University which has a good co-op program, after I spoke with the co-op advisor for finance she told me basically I was almost wasting my time because I am doing a total switch. So no need for her help I guess. I need to get the co-op by January so I can extend my graduating allowing me more time to gain experience. I have been networking but haven't had the luck I hope for yet. I also have a good deal of student loans so I'm trying to not take time off. What do you guys think I should do? I know I can get jobs in finance through my school but just not IB therefore I am trying to find them on my own.
Would it be better in my case to call them and explain my situation or just walk in? I just don't know what to do at this point. Also I am aiming for a boutique anything better is a bonus, I just want to get my foot in the door. I greatly appreciate your help. Thanks!
Call who and walk in where? I'm confused about your plan...
I will refer your question to a post I made to another at NU. Read what I wrote to him and take it for it is. Consider also that you are not a business or econ major and switching will be harder.
http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/sophomore-resume-1
First off, what year are you?
Second, it's VERY hard for a business major to break into IB from Northeastern let alone a Bio major, However, a Bio major is more complex than a business major granted. You have no experience and you'll have to start from the bottom of the co-ops.
If you provide a bit more detail, I may be able to help.
P.S. I'm a middler right now at NU.
Summer Internship - Tough time finding an internship (Originally Posted: 12/07/2011)
Hey,
I'm having a tough time finding an internship for the summer so I thought it would be a good idea to see if anyone is looking for an intern, preferably in E.R. or S &T. If anyone can offer any advice or info then please PM me.
If it helps I have a 3.5 GPA at a semi-target school, majoring in Mathematical Economics (minor in Poli Sci) and play a NCAA D1 sport...
Thanks
What year are you?
Sophomore. Also, I've just recently changed my minor to history,
call up some boutiques in your area. And spring semester hasn't started yet.....
Internship Question - Finding good internship opportunities (Originally Posted: 06/26/2013)
How do I go about finding good internship opportunities? I realize that simple google searches probably aren't going to do me any good, and I keep seeing that people have started doing internships at freshman and sophomore levels. I'm technically a sophomore now (future transfer student) and I'm really curious where to even start looking. The CC I was going to didn't have that kind of information because they had no finance clubs, dept., etc., so I feel like I'm trying to find a penny in the dark. Any pointers to help me start really looking? Where did you guys begin? Thanks
Seriously? University career website? I don't see other places where you can "Begin"
ask alumni from your school
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