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  • Prospect in IB-M&A
Nov 21, 2020 - 4:43pm

J.P. Morgan Tech SF -- a buddy of mine worked there (just left before covid) and it was constant back to back 120+ hour weeks ... big facetime policy and overall group culture seemed to revolve around a "work hard, play hard" attitude. 

  • Prospect in IB-M&A
Nov 22, 2020 - 11:32pm

SF Tech M&A and Coverage both get fucked on hours ridiculously. Only upside is that Tech M&A exits are significantly stronger than Coverage and your hard work pays off in some form. Coverage is just a never-ending grind to nowhere coupled with some shitty office politics on the senior level (thank u, Matt!). 

Can confirm that JPM Tech analysts do indeed wave at the FT analysts at around 4:31 AM every day.

JPM SF HC grinds really hard too and its sweaty but the senior office politics is not there which makes it a less hostile environment. 

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Nov 22, 2020 - 5:42am

Do you think the 1st-year analysts wave to each other from across the two buildings late at night lol

"Markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent."

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  • Analyst 2 in IB - Ind
Nov 22, 2020 - 6:22pm

2nd year at JPM.

Haven't gone home in 4 days.

I really need a shower. Pls Help.

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Nov 22, 2020 - 12:48am

Working sweaty ib hrs in sf would really suck and be pure cuckery 

Most your professional peers in sf are working 40 hrs a week(and making more) in tech

At least in nyc the whole city grinds

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  • Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
Nov 22, 2020 - 1:20am

this is hilariously true...not to mention if you're not at a Qatalyst or GS TMT or ms menlo and work in tech coverage, you're getting cucked on deal flow too. have fun pitching to $10m arr saas companies that are the next big thing revolutionizing god knows what with AI/ML/insert buzzword here while working more and making less than your tech peers

FT is sweaty as is jpm tech as mentioned above

  • Intern in IB - Ind
Nov 22, 2020 - 2:26am

Is GS TMT sweaty? I know they were super sweaty in the Pat but have heard they're trying to clean up their act at least with juniors

  • Analyst 2 in IB - Ind
Nov 22, 2020 - 10:18pm

BAML - Almost no facetime culture. But the sheer volume of deal is crazy. I wouldn't say it's sweaty. People are generally very chill. 

  • Analyst 1 in IB - Ind
Nov 22, 2020 - 6:47pm

We're not so bad. Sure hours are long. But this year I've worked mostly on live deals. Hardly done any pitches. 

  • Intern in IB - Ind
Nov 22, 2020 - 6:27pm

Are there literally any pros to being in a sweaty group? Past a certain point I'd imagine hours worked/reps have diminishing returns in terms of "experience gained". I know sweaty groups are great for exiting Bc you have a lot to talk about and hopefully a few closed deals under your belt, but what if you plan to stay in banking?

  • Intern in IB - Gen
Nov 22, 2020 - 9:36pm

Sweatiness typically goes hand in hand with good deal flow, which often goes hand in hand with good exits. This is a super general trend with tons of exceptions, but it is often the case

Nov 22, 2020 - 6:59pm

guys, no one from this office has committed suicide yet!  no leaked emails that make the nytimes

its our model office

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  • Analyst 1 in IB - Ind
Nov 23, 2020 - 12:42am

Seem to be an up and coming shop, but super sweaty from what I've heard

Nov 25, 2020 - 11:30pm

Roommate is at Centerview PA - his hours seem to be pretty chill comparatively. He says he averages around 70 a week, and his worst has been about 90 (only once since he started in July). 

  • Intern in IB-M&A
Dec 2, 2020 - 1:01am

hear it's brutal mostly due to culture and nature of work. Exits aren't particularly good either and definitely not good when considering the hours

  • Analyst 1 in IB - Gen
Nov 23, 2020 - 6:41pm

ubs doesn't have sponsors group in sf. The tech group does primarily sponsor M&A and handles everything. Have heard great things abt bofa sponsors group in terms of deal flow and exit

  • Prospect in Consulting
Dec 1, 2020 - 6:10pm

Know multiple people there. Pretty much what you would expect, brutal hours in exchange for top exits. In the outgoing class pretty much everyone got a top exit besides one person who came from an very non target school. Though to clarify, hours being bad does not mean culture is bad. They just have a lot of work to do.

Nov 27, 2020 - 3:56am

HC capital markets one of the strongest on the street with a solid TMT team. They've been killing it recently especially with their spac practice but they are fairly sweaty from my understanding. Not terrible on facetime but strong dealflow hence longer hours as any good bank may have

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  • Intern in IB-M&A
Nov 27, 2020 - 8:26pm

Any info on Liontree SF? Have heard those in the New York office get worked pretty hard

  • Intern in IB - Ind
Dec 9, 2020 - 2:36pm

Either everybody in that group is getting too crushed to reply to this thread or nobody has ever made it out alive to tell the story..

  • Analyst 1 in IB - Ind
Dec 2, 2020 - 9:16pm

Shocker..any bank/group with good deal flow is gonna pretty much suck to be an analyst at. Do you guys really think you can be at a group with top exits and great experience and not get destroyed? 

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