An experiment. A few 'superthreads' (10xleverage on PE) have proved extremely informative in the past, so I am going to see if these can be somewhat replicated. The point is to create a "thread to end all threads" about the given topic. First up: TARGET VS. NONTARGET
Target school – Have heavy on-campus recruiting by top firms (banks, consulting, etc) and are thus well represented on Wall Street. A 75 percentile student at a target can expect 1st round interviews at most firms
Semi target – Siginificantly less recruiting that at targets. Get many students into good firms, but only a few into top ones. A 90 percentile student here will have many good, and some great, opportunities:
Reaches – these nontarget schools place very few people onto WallStreet. Only the top .5% will have any shot. GS/MS M/B/B placements happen to 2 people/ year
Super reach . Getting onto WallStreet from one of these is an herculean feat that only a few talented/ lucky individuals will manage
After strong objections got rid of my examples for each category. Point is now to populate (with justification) the list
This will make some of the first 10 or so comments seem disjointed...
SBs to anyone who creates a visual of this ( a chart showing relative distribution of people from each type of school?)
I'm going to say this now... This is a bad idea. It's been discussed ad infinitum. Just use the damned search button if you're so damned concerned to bring up all the past arguments.
Again, let me say that this is going to be a very bad idea.
The point is to get them all in one place, and hopefully somewhat structured because this still gets asked every other day.
Bad idea? That's why its an experiment. QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, INEVITABLE TROLLING LETS GO
I completely agree with Frieds, this thread is going to go up in flames.
The reason 10xLev's PE thread was a success was because he was in a relatively unique position to provide insight about a path that is almost universally desired (Target School => MS M&A => KKR) but has very little credible information out there.
College rankings on the other hand are something EVERYONE on this site will feel he/she has the authority to give perspective (and they do). Furthermore, rankings are highly subjective by firm and by region, so the people in SF/LA/Chicago/Boston are going to have something ENTIRELY different to say.
It's just gonna end up being a carnival-o-bitching about whether or not Brown is a Target, why someone will take Berkeley/NYU/UMich over Yale/Duke/MIT "every day", whether UVA/UNC/UCLA should be a semi, and why the fuck you even listed ASU while forgetting about UChicago/CMU/Emory, etc.
Not discouraging you from going through with this, simply getting an early post in so I can say "I told you so" later.
I can see what you're trying to accomplish here, but this is going to turn into a shit show especially with your somewhat condescending comments towards certain schools:
There are several semi-targets that should be added into this list as well.
Yeah. Merely the fact that you mentioned Arizona state(one of the worst schools in the country) and left out basically any real semi target makes this thread fucking worthless.
OP is retarded and possibly a troll as well
The "if you can't get a BB gig you're a social retard" group -- Harvard Yale Princeton Wharton Columbia
"Way too cool/smart for I-Banking" crowd -- MIT Cal Tech Stanford Chicago
Targets -- Every other Ivy Williams/Amherst, other top 10 lib arts colleges Duke Georgetown UVA Michigan NYU Stern
Semi-Targets -- Every other top 30 school / top 20 liberal arts college In particular: Northwestern, Cal, UNC, BC, Lehigh, UT, Emory West Point, Naval academy
Other schools -- Pretty much any top 50-75 school you have a decent shot
Regional powerhouses -- Chicago: Northwestern, Notre Dame, IU Charlotte: Hodgepodge of good-to-decent Southern schools Texas: UT, UT, UT West coast: USC, UCLA, Cal
From my experience this is what it looks like. I also have the last 2 years of data from 3 BB SA books and have asked around a bit. PM if you have any pressing questions... but if you just want to nitpick then it's probably not worth it.
I like turtles
According to this ASU is better than UVA, UNC, northwestern, uchicago, and michigan for finance
No comment
When even blastoise know's you're wrong, then it's time to get off WSO
OP: WTF is this thread supposed to do? Validate whether a school is a target or not? If BBs recruit on campus you're a target, if not, then hit the pavement, smile and dial.
WSO has a FAQ that happens to cover this topic.
The point was to make the thread useful by adding/ subtracting. Thanks solidarity.
Only intelligent criticism on here is from D M. If there is a FAQ then this is clearly pointless
Frieds and Nouveau Rich, go ahead and get your "I told you sos" in so I can close this puppy
No. No. No. No. NOT THIS AGAIN! :O
IU is such a piece of shit school. Not a regional powerhouse. Complete horsepiss.
Target school – Harvard Princeton
Wharton
Yale MIT Stanford Columbia Brown
Dartmouth
Duke Cornell Chicago Northwestern CMU Georgetown Michigan UVA NYU Stern Amherst Williams Claremont
Semi target – Notre Dame Johns Hopkins Wash U UNC BC Penn (non-Wharton) NYU (non-Stern) Middlebury Wellesley Bowdoin Military Academies
Baruch
Georgia Tech Rice Tulane BU Haverford Carleton
Pomona
Other State flagships
Reaches – Other State non-flagships and crappy privates
Super reach . Fordham everyone else.......
More like supertool
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