Teach For America x Goldman Sachs? A match made in heaven?

So for those of you who are unaware, Teach for America and Goldman Sachs firmly cemented their partnership this year. Goldman will be offering (at least) 20 minorities in the incoming Teach for America class summer internships.

Do you all think this is a move to try and take away from the evil perception of Goldman by being buddy buddy with arguably the most prolific non-profit today? Or do you see it as another way for them to access and recruit some of the most qualified "do-gooders" into the firm? Do you think something like this is good for TFA and furthers its mission? Do you think more banking/finance/consulting firms will make this type of partnership with TFA?

I personally can't see too many incoming corps members applying to the FO positions. I see them more tagging along for the people value (Human Capital, Operations, Legal) and supportive roles. From the 2011 class at my school entering TFA, many of the minorities aren't bothering to apply, and those that are are looking at BO positions. I go to a target Ivy too, so I'm not sure if that's the case across the board.

TFA is trying to get their alumni in positions of influence across the board though, so I don't know exactly how to feel...

More info:
http://www2.goldmansachs.com/careers/our-firm/dive...

Comments (23)

Mar 15, 2011
Better.Than.You:

Do you all think this is a move to try and take away from the evil perception of Goldman by being buddy buddy with arguably the most prolific non-profit today? Or do you see it as another way for them to access and recruit some of the most qualified "do-gooders" into the firm?

Both

Mar 15, 2011

Yeah, they told my brother that if he got the TFA gig, he could intern at Goldman Sachs.

I sent him some reading materials on banking, but I doubt he'll do it.

Mar 15, 2011
sofib09:

Yeah, they told my brother that if he got the TFA gig, he could intern at Goldman Sachs.

I sent him some reading materials on banking, but I doubt he'll do it.

Smack him upside the head. He's going to turn down banking for exactly what?????

Mar 15, 2011
UFOinsider:
sofib09:

Yeah, they told my brother that if he got the TFA gig, he could intern at Goldman Sachs.

I sent him some reading materials on banking, but I doubt he'll do it.

Smack him upside the head. He's going to turn down banking for exactly what?????

LOL...he wants to be a doctor. He just wants to have a couple of years of work experience first before heading back to med school, then residency, then internship, then whatever else it is you do to become a doctor. He just doesn't want to burn out by going straight to med school.

He has ZERO interest in finance or business...he thinks it's boring. I told him to give it a shot and at least try if that's what they're offering.

Mar 15, 2011

Why only for minorities?

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Mar 15, 2011
Clarkey:

Why only for minorities?

really simple, two birds with one stone. they care about kids and underprivileged students and minorities.

Goldman Sachs cares!

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Best Response
Mar 15, 2011

A lot of firms have stuff like this, they just don't feel the need to be gay about it.

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

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Mar 15, 2011

Has anyone gone, or had their friends go, from an FO position at a BB to TFA?

Would two years of non-MBA experience after 2 of banking make it difficult to get back into finance? I ask because there must be people that decide they want to temporarily give back, via TFA or Peace Corps, after they start banking.

Mar 15, 2011
Derivs:

Has anyone gone, or had their friends go, from an FO position at a BB to TFA?

Would two years of non-MBA experience after 2 of banking make it difficult to get back into finance? I ask because there must be people that decide they want to temporarily give back, via TFA or Peace Corps, after they start banking.

No and no.

TFA people are one of only two things: people who are very serious about teaching or social climbers using it as a stepping stone to things like FO.

Mar 16, 2011
UFOinsider:
Derivs:

Has anyone gone, or had their friends go, from an FO position at a BB to TFA?

Would two years of non-MBA experience after 2 of banking make it difficult to get back into finance? I ask because there must be people that decide they want to temporarily give back, via TFA or Peace Corps, after they start banking.

No and no.

TFA people are one of only two things: people who are very serious about teaching or social climbers using it as a stepping stone to things like FO.

Although I'm very passionate about education, I believe my talents are more geared towards the business world. Although I applied for this internship, I already have another finance gig deferred for two years. FO is not necessarily the end all be all.

I'm just not entirely sure if this "official" partnership is the best move. Particularly since it's aimed at minorities. Black males are only 1.6% of teachers nationally. Going to the 20th anniversary summit I could count the number of Black dudes I saw on my hands. They're targeting this very lucrative opportunity to the teachers most in need...

Mar 15, 2011

This is exactly the shit that gives TFA a HORRIBLE reputation among education professionals. Take talented kids who COULD become good teachers, make them feel special, then yank them out after two years just as they're learning how to do their jobs. Make it better by convincing first year teachers that they should be interning at Goldman instead of improving their lesson plans.

Mar 15, 2011

Wasn't aware TFA had a horrible rep in higher ed community. I thought they were this super-awesome organization that everybody loves.

Mar 15, 2011
Beef:

Wasn't aware TFA had a horrible rep in higher ed community. I thought they were this super-awesome organization that everybody loves.

My buddy is doing TFA so take this for what its worth but I think he meant the reputation of the program itself and not necessarily the alums/participants of the program.

If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford

Mar 15, 2011
happypantsmcgee:
Beef:

Wasn't aware TFA had a horrible rep in higher ed community. I thought they were this super-awesome organization that everybody loves.

My buddy is doing TFA so take this for what its worth but I think he meant the reputation of the program itself and not necessarily the alums/participants of the program.

Exactly. The issue is precisely that the people doing it are actually good, but they are being put in to schools for two years, where they can't do any good, and then pulled out, rather than looking at it as a long-term commitment. TFA does have a good talent pool, and education in this country is better served by those people continuing to teach, rather than going to Goldman. That's not to say some TFA alumni don't go off and do useful things, because they do, but that is a definite minority. There are lots of other reasons that people in education don't like TFA, but that's the main one.

Mar 16, 2011

I worked in ibanking then got a job elsewhere in ibanking- had a few months off so traveled out of the country to work for a big non-profit. I can say that the people here DESPISE Wall St. They work 40 hours a week and think its "tiring." Almost everyone at my non-profit attended an ivy or top liberal arts college. I think the individuals who make the switch to banking are fed up with the culture and need a change. There is no way a non-profit worker is going to quit curing the world of AIDS to work in M&A.

I MISS BANKING (how can this be one might ask?) Well when your boss says to you "oh, so you're one of the people that ruined the world?" You will understand what I am referring to. Oh ya, my response

"I work in M&A. I recommend you learn and understand the different divisions of banking before voicing your ill-conceived notions of Wall Street"

Mar 16, 2011

kids who view TFA as just a detour (prob the majority) are douches and do themselves and the kids they teach no favor for 2 yrs.

knew a kid last year who quit after their first year because he couldn't handle it (placed at an inner-city chicago high school). another one quit because he was "bored" (placed at a school in rural mississippi or something). probably screwed over the school and the students.

and they prepare these kids HORRIBLY for the teaching job.

Mar 16, 2011

Based on the description at the GS website, these internships can be anywhere in the GS and not necessarily the FO roles. Honestly, for the BO and MO roles, is this really such a big deal?