The difference between the M7 and Tuck/Haas
I've actually enjoyed the Booth/Kellogg/Sloan/CBS thread, so I wanted to pose a question of my own in this regard. Is there really much of a difference between the non-HSW MBA business schools">M7 and Tuck/Haas? Is it really more of a Top 9 as I've seen mentioned in other threads?
If you hate these kind of threads, I understand, but it's a slow day at work and this is an issue I am interested in.
A few points for consideration:
- Haas and Tuck have at times ranked ahead of a number of the MBA business schools">M7, even in the USNWR rankings, Haas finished above CBS
- I have seen on here and GMATClub, people regularly (and by this I mean 50-50) choosing Tuck and Haas over some of the non-HSW MBA business schools">M7 programmes particularly CBS, Kellogg, and Sloan
- Placement, particularly at Tuck, seems on par percentage-wise with Sloan, and as far as consulting goes far superior to CBS. Though CBS does readily win-out in finance and Sloan in tech.
Any thoughts?
I think the main reason why Haas and Tuck punch above their weight is a combination of culture and placement.
Haas is the smallest program in the top 10 with 240-person classes, which engenders a really strong community. Also, outside GSB and Sloan, it probably places the best in tech, especially on the West Coast. So, if you are someone who is interested in living on the West Coast and working in tech, Haas offers a really good value proposition over many of the M7 schools.
Tuck is also really small (~280-person classes) and is rumored to have the strongest community of any top business school. Pound for pound, it is one of the best business schools for MBB consulting, right alongside Kellogg, Sloan, etc. Plus, it is located in rural New Hampshire, which some (not all, of course) see as a break from city life. So, if you're looking for really strong community, access to the outdoors, and stellar consulting placement, Tuck is a better fit than almost any top school.
Hope that helps!
They will all get you the interview wherever you want to go. The key is financial aid and location, in that order. Don't underestimate being able to get coffee with a contact any day of the week vs having to rely on recruiting to get in the door.
I'm biased so I say Haas or Stanford if you can swing it.
Personally, I'd consider Tuck on-par with the M7 (in fact I personally view it better than Columbia). 20% of it's class got into MBB last year, it does great with hedge funds/PE, and has the most approachable alumni base...plus student satisfaction is generally 2nd highest (after Stanford). Haas I think is a bit below, since it does poorly relative to it's peers in consulting and finance...People say it's self selection, and perhaps it is, but the fact is non of the M-7 schools have this "self-selection" problem (e.g. even the super finance schools like Booth have MBB as their top 3 recruiters). I think people view Haas as better than it is, due to its low acceptance rate (which is just an artifact of the class size and location). It could be really use (again this is my subjective opinion) some OCR and philosophy changes.
@"OpsDude" You are absolutely right in that Haas is not at the same level as Tuck/other M7 when it comes to traditional industries (finance, consulting etc), but they are west coast and have an edge in tech.
@"GlobeTF" There is little if any difference between Tuck/Haas and M7. If you look at the average of USNews Rankings for the past 10 years (2005 to 2014), Tuck/Haas are ranked higher than Columbia, an M7. Though HSW are a cut above Tuck/Haas.
If the 20% MBB number that @"OpsDude" quoted is correct, then Tuck appears to do even better than Kellogg at MBB. INSEAD may be similar but most INSEAD kids are sponsored/coming from consulting.
@techie674 Kellogg sends 25-30% to MBB. 142 went last year out of ~550 seeking employment ircc.
@"OpsDude" Where did you get that figure? Their employment report states that last year 118 Kellogg students went to MBB from ALL their programs (1 yr MBA, 2 yr MBA, joint MBA, MMM, part-time MBA etc).
@techie674 I just checked employment report, you're correct.
http://poetsandquants.com/2014/04/17/tuck-school-of-business-were-prett…
@"techie674" The source (or one anyway) for that Tuck 20% to MBB this year stat.
@"Westcoastie" Seems legit.
20% of class going to MBB is crazy. Just checked their employment report too. It shows 27% going to consulting industry in total. This means that 20/27 of these went to MBB. I wonder why MBB recruit so heavily at Tuck.
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