I felt that way about NYC when I went the first time. You were with the wrong people at the wrong places.

OP, when are you moving? I'm gonna have 7 very nice vacant new construction units in Pilsen next month.

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If Chicago is bland and boring, never leave NYC. I like both cities, but I’m more than happy paying 1/3 the rent and probably 20k less in taxes for a fraction of less “excitement”.

It's got nothing to do with "excitement". It's a different lifestyle. It's very difficult to quantify the value of a public transit system that's open and running pretty often 24/7. How do you put a price on having access to Broadway? The cultural and social capital available in NYC absolutely dwarfs that in Chicago. And as I've said in another thread, if you are driven by COL, then why the hell Chicago? It's infinitely reductive. Go live in Houston or Atlanta, also major metro areas, which are both significantly cheaper than Chicago (and better weather to boot); like 10% cheaper from what I can find.

If you like big city life and COL isn't a make-or-break factor, you live in NYC. If you like big cities and you are cost conscious, you 100% don't live in Chicago, because it's expensive as all hell compared to most of the rest of the country. If you don't like cities, both suck

 

Oh Jesus. This trash. Reminds me of all the chicks I see fanboi NYC while living in a 2brm flex.

I love NYC. Awesome city. But pretending like anything but Manhattan is Boise is a fucking joke.

 
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This is an insane argument. Chicago has almost everything that NYC has to offer at 1/3 the rent as TNA said. Tons of diversity, bars, a lake, etc. Only major downside is the weather is significantly colder in the winter. But it's not like NYC winters are pleasant either so the trade off isn't bad. To compare Houston/Atlanta to fucking Chicago is bonkers. In terms of cultural/social capital, like...ok? If you're really in that scene where that shit matters then good for you. Most people here are just trying to do well for themselves and their family financially to be able to have some nice vacations, own a nice home and retire. Sure NYC has marginally more cultural/social capital but what does that really matter to most people? The rest of the country doesn't have a significant number of jobs in high finance. Chicago actually does. Houston and Atlanta, among other tier 12 cities might have some high finance but a pretty low variety. As a buyside quant the only cities that I can get a job in are NYC, Boston, Chicago and maaaybe SF/LA.

 
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TNA:
If Chicago is bland and boring, never leave NYC. I like both cities, but I’m more than happy paying 1/3 the rent and probably 20k less in taxes for a fraction of less “excitement”.

It's got nothing to do with "excitement". It's a different lifestyle. It's very difficult to quantify the value of a public transit system that's open and running pretty often 24/7. How do you put a price on having access to Broadway? The cultural and social capital available in NYC absolutely dwarfs that in Chicago. And as I've said in another thread, if you are driven by COL, then why the hell Chicago? It's infinitely reductive. Go live in Houston or Atlanta, also major metro areas, which are both significantly cheaper than Chicago (and better weather to boot); like 10% cheaper from what I can find.

If you like big city life and COL isn't a make-or-break factor, you live in NYC. If you like big cities and you are cost conscious, you 100% don't live in Chicago, because it's expensive as all hell compared to most of the rest of the country. If you don't like cities, both suck

You are way off base here. I wrote an extensive thread on the merits of Chicago, so feel free to read it.

https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/chicago-the-best-all-around-us-c…

 

Live in a highrise. If you want to be extremely close to work you can live in the loop. Trendy places are river north, old town, gold coast. Lincoln park is a bit farther but pretty much anything can be a

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Any of the newer buildings in the Loop (not West Loop), will be a very short walk to River North anyways. Definitely no deal breakers in looking at the Loop. It actually hides some of the noise from River North on weekends. This assumes you aren't talking South Loop.

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id also recommend downtown west loop tons of restaurants and bars around west randolph that are booming on weekends and there has been lot of apartment development in this area lately so lot of luxury high rise options available it's also close to fulton market (google's chicago office) that is rapidly transforming and could become another booming area commute wise id say it is better commute than river north or streeterville if your office is in central loop as you can just walk.. i think streeterville is another good area given you get to have a view of the lake (which west loop doesn't) and quite a bit of apartment options but you will have to take bus to commute and lot of tourist traffic in summer honestly west loop, streeterville and river north are all great options for singles i wouldn't personally recommend central loop because it gets so quiet after work and it's not really residential area some of my friends live in south loop but i don't think it's on same level with the other areas mentioned just yet...my two cents..

 

I was born and raised in Chicago. I currently have my sights set on New York, but I can definitely say downtown Chicago has some nice places.

Just stay away from the South side; those are the dangerous neighborhoods to be avoided.

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The news has been giving out of lot of scary news lately relating to the high crime rate in Chicago.

 

Don't live in the loop, you'll hate it

River north is good if you like a bougier vibe

LP/Old Town are great if you prefer something is a bit more of a neighborhood

West Loop if you are foodie

Wicker/bucktown if you are more of a hipster

 

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