Thoughts on Trump ReOpening U.S. by Easter (April 12th)
Trump is saying that he plans to reopen the US by Easter, whether or not this actually happens - I'm not sure. This is against the recommendation of some health experts but honestly I would like to see it happen. As Trump has said, the "Cure" can't be worse than the problem itself. If the country is shut down for months the economy will be obliterated and that will lead to deaths on its own and tons of other major problems such as people not being able to provide for their families. If we reopen the country early, obviously more people will get the disease but with what I have seen about the actual mortality rates, this would be a necessary trade off to keep the economy running. What do you all think?
I think he's right (I still want to WFH, but really need to go on dates again yk)
I would much rather trust medical officials and public health experts over Trump in this situation. Trump is a self-centred idiot who cares far more about his re-election than the welfare of Americans at this point. Trump has tried to downplay this crisis from the beginning because he didn't want the economy to tank and damage his chances of re-election in November. He went on TV the other day and said chloroquine phosphate is a cure for COVID-19 and was safe. A Trump supporter and her husband took his advice. She’s now in an ICU and her husband’s dead. Dr. Anthony Fauci of the White House Coronavirus Task Force has gone on TV to state on the record that people need to stop taking medical advice from Donald Trump and has been seen facepalming in the back of Trump's press conferences while Trump rambles. Surprise surprise - Trump's fragile ego hasn't taken kindly to being contradicted and Dr.Fauci hasn't been seen at White House press conferences for days.
Republican and Democrat-leaning areas are split in terms of how fast and effectively they're responding to the pandemic: https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-pandemic-florida-spring-bre…, with Democratic areas generally acting much faster. Trump, Senate Republicans, and Fox News have tried downplaying the extent of the pandemic from day 1 and are only now realizing their mistakes, although Trump is still trying as hard as he can to salvage the economy in a desperate attempt to get re-elected. That's what happens when you've spent 3 years touting stock market gains and low unemployment as the #1 reason to re-elect you as President. As a basketball saying goes, "you live by the 3, you die by the 3."
There's been a total abdication of responsibility by the Trump administration in containing this pandemic, and it's been a while since I remember seeing a failure of leadership on this grand a scale in American politics. The lack of federal preparedness and widespread COVID-19 testing is appalling, particularly for possibly the most advanced country on earth. Instead of warning the American public about the impending crisis and stopping the virus in its tracks in January, Republican Senators were profiting off insider trades: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/03/republican-senators-insider…. I wonder what seniors, one of Trump's core constituencies, think when they hear that their lives should be sacrificed for the greater good of the markets and Trump's re-election bid.
The fact that people think Trump is doing even an average job in leading the country through this crisis is stunning. The Cult of the Donald truly has taken control over the minds of his supporters. He won't even promise not to use federal bail-out money to support his own golf courses and hotels. Trump wasn't lying when he said he could shoot someone on Fifth Ave and his supporters would let him get away with it
Agree for the most part but that Trump supporter and her husband died bc they took chloroquine phosphate, which is used to clean fish tanks instead of the kind used to treat Malaria. Their idiocy cost them their lives
By now all countries should have learned their lessons... The Netherlands and the UK also didn't want to damage their economies and chose for "controlled group immunity". Yesterday, they too were forced to head towards a complete lockdown. The idea of keeping your economy running as nothing is happening is stupid. You're not going to work at a production line knowing that it will expose yourself to the virus with possible death as a consequence.
Predictions are fairly meaningless right now but I bet the US economy is going to get hit at least as hard as other western economies and on top of that it will have an exceptionally higher mortality rate. The idea of having a reliable mortality rate is completely ridiculous since this mortality rate has already doubled in less than a month and is entirely dependant on the occupancy rate of your hospitals.
"The cure can't be worse than the problem" sounds good as a talking point but when you dig deeper into the issue, you will realize there may be severe unintended consequences. For example, if the disease spreads, more people will need medical attention. As a result, the medical system will be overloaded with patients and not only people who have Covid-19. If you do not get infected but need medical attention for a different reason, you may not be able to find a physician or hospital with the capacity to address your needs.
Depends if the ICU is at/over capacity for 3 weeks or 12 months...
The original poster is an idiot. Don’t even give him attention.
I think it's a play to build consumer confidence. Anyone with above average intelligence knows that trying to resume things to normal in 3-4 weeks would be disastrous.
I mean the truth is both options will suck, one protects you from the virus more at the cost of killing the economy , the other protects the economy at the cost of killing people
Its inhumane to blatantly sacrifice lives for the sake of the economy yet it is equally inhumane to allow the economy to dwindle when data has shown a strong correlation between unemployment and death rates. On one hand you would hate to see your parents die from this disease as a result of Trump opening up the economy but it would be equally devastating to see decades of your friends and family's hard work evaporate as a result of an economy at a stand still.
I don't dislike Trump (I see him for what he is) but I hope he produce a stimulus package that keeps us above water while not fucking up the economy in the long term.
Anyone with above average intelligence knows that the OP of the thread is a fucking moron
This is all nonsense. He is just creating noise.
While I don't have proof POTUS can't be that naive. Coincidentally we had the largest jump in US deaths, hitting over 100 in a single day. How many news agency reported that, many did, however, it is drowned out by his comments to reopen the economy.
Get ready for more nonsense, since more will die from COVID-19 and number of cases should hopefully peak soon, due to the shutdown.
Trump will definitely overshadow any bad news. Even if it makes him seem like a buffoon.
I think you're giving Trump too much credit. He's been pushing for interest rate cuts since the coronavirus scare was in its infancy in January as a way to prop up the stock market. The worse this pandemic is getting, the more erratic and panicked he's becoming about entering into the 2020 election season during a recession.
There was a tweet today announcing Mitt Romney tested negative for coronavirus, and Trump replies with how terrible of a Presidential candidate and Senator Romney was before saying that he's glad Romney's OK. We currently have a petulant child in the Oval Office. He needs to act like the President of the entire United States. Govern and protect.
I do not think the POTUS has the authority to tell states and private companies how to manage through this crisis.
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