Thrown out halfway through interview

Hey y'all,

I am just wondering if this has like happened to anyone else before. I was interviewing at a F500 the other day, and halfway through my 6 mini interviews I was interrupted by the HR head telling me the interview was done and for me to exit the building. It was pretty stressful, but I am thinking I dodged a bullet here. Surely this can't be proper etiquette for a company of such caliber though.

And to clarify, I don't think I was in the wrong at all. I believe my toxic masculinity pissed of the 5/6 female interviewers, and they had the HR guy throw me out.

 
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Ok here's what went down from my perspective. First of all to give some background on the story, I was interviewing for 1 of 2 positions. One was a senior analyst role, and the other was a junior analyst role. My success at the interview was going to determine if I would be able to qualify for the senior analyst role, which for my professional resume would have been dope. Further, I found it very suprising that I was being interviewed by 5/6 women when the industry this company is in is like 80% male plus its for a finance role, which definitely leans more male. Anyway, because I was pretty excited about this opportunity this didn't bother me obviously.

So here I am at interview day at the HQ, which composed of 6 30min interviews. The first interview went well with the most senior director, a lovely middle aged lady, who I got along with just fine. We just talked about typical behavioural/competency stuff. The second interview was with the only guy (albeit very feminine and nerdy) who would be my manager if I qualified for the senior analyst role. We talked about typical behavioural questions, and it was nothing out of the ordinary. We even had good conversation on outside interests that we could relate to each other on. It was nice that on the way out, he said that my interview with him went very well, and that it was a good sign in being able to get that senior anayst role. (At this point I'm like hell yeah I am crushing this interview, and I am getting that senior role).

Now this 3rd interview is where shit probably hit the fan I presume. This is another middle-aged lady, who just gave me some really weird vibes with her line of comments and questions. Let me quote some of the stuff she talked about and asked me:

"Yea so when I started here on the finance team, it was just 4 guys. They just worked at their desk all day long, and even ate lunch at their cube. For me that was unacceptable. I am more of a 25% work and 75% social kind of person..." (lol... wut?)

"So I see you played tennis. Are you competitive? Ok you are.. Well if we played a company-wide game day, would you be competitive and try and win or be more relaxed? Because I am a very relaxed person, and not competitive at all. Actually, the last time we played me and the other teams all colluded to beat the competitive team haha" (umm weird story but K)

So now I go on to ask her where she sees the company in a couple years as they are struggling. "Well I think this company is going to make or break this upcoming year. Either we bust or we figure out some way to survive. Its looking pretty bleak for our industry and business model, and as a result we have even had large company turnover. Actually, I was even considering interviewing at other places too, but I decided to wait it out a bit" (why the fk you saying that to me??)

And my god this woman didn't ask me a single question about my competency. It was all about the team. How well the team gets along. How everyone is unique, but friendly. She would ask me how I would get along with everyone. Team. Team. Team. Like damn I understand thats important, and I though I made it clear I am a team player, and get along with people pretty easily with my relaxed personality.

Anyway, I finished up that bizarre interview with her, and the next girl about my age comes in to interview me. She gives me a simple excel test, and as soon as I finish it, the HR guy who first met me in the lobby interupted to talk to the girl interviewing me in the hall. They talk for about 45 seconds before she comes back in, grabs her stuff, and walks out. Then the HR guy comes in, and says "I talked to the Directors. This interview is done. They said you were arrogant, disrespectful, cocky, and acted like you didn't want to be here." I mean my stomach just dropped. I couldn't believe what I was hearing because honest to god I thought I was crushing this shit lol. I respond you sure they were talking about me? He says "yup. Okay get up lets go". And let me add, this guy (also nerdy and beta) was LIVID. Like he was straight up upset and mad. Like wtf did those people tell him about me, to get him so worked up. So I get up and he walks me to the front lobby. He takes my ID badge, never looks me in the eye, and says have a nice day, and walked off. I just stood there in the lobby for a minute in utter disbelief.

Anyway, my Grandpa says lesbians are crazy. I think that 3rd interview is what caused this bizarre situation. She was looking for some feminine friend to be able to socialize with at work, and she did not like my responses to her questions. Which to iterate, I was being cordial and professional the whole time with my answers. I bet she wanted me to be all bubbly, smiley, and giddy about working for the team and what not, but no I am going to be professional for this fkin finance related job.

So yea I think my toxic masulinity pissed off her misandrist mindset, and it caused me to be kicked out of the interview, which is one of the most embarassing things that has ever happened to me lol.

TLDR;

I didn't suck up to one of the interviewers to fit her feminist mindset. She took my cordial/professional responses as I guess threatening and proceeded to get me booted out of the interview 10min later.

Update:

These fools had the audacity to send me a followup email saying that they are moving forward with another candidate, but to please go ahead and apply for this other financial analyst role within the company that based on your resume you would be a great candidate for. Hell nahhh

Edit 2:

Some people don't like the way I used to describe the people there, where I refer to some as feminine/nerdy. I only use those descriptions to give an idea of the type of people who they were hiring. I can see how that comes off as arrogant sure, but I don't mean it that way. I would consider myself to be a little nerdy, but I just don't subscribe to those feminist tendencies.

Edit 3:

I wrote this article trying to be humorous in the process to make it an interesting read. Take it as such. I did not use this same language/humuor in my interview because I like kind of wanted to job.

 

this is kinda crazy...but also an important lesson in reading your audience for an interview.

find whatever your audience really wants to hear, and then give it to them. this requires you asking questions to suss out what kind of person is interviewing you. might be a little manipulative...and i think this will be a rare outlier...but a good lesson nonetheless. you didn't do anything "wrong" but never hurts to learn how to manipulate people for professional reasons. i suggest this Seduction book...it really is packed with info, and its a good read...not just on seducing romantically, but also professionally and politically.

just google it...you're welcome
 
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BBDreamin:
Who wants to work with a bunch of feminists? - surely not any “competitive” male

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I'd say any competitive person wouldn't want to work with radical feminists who like to sit in their safe space.

Feminism used to advocate for women's rights to vote, to work, and to live their life to the fullest. Now it stands for don't tell me things I don't wanna hear because I'm so entitled.

 

Ok I just read this.
I don't think it takes Sherlock to solve this one. You're packing something serious below the belt, no gun.

solved

 
mgaT:
Ok here's what went down from my perspective. First of all to give some background on the story, I was interviewing for 1 of 2 positions. One was a senior analyst role, and the other was a junior analyst role. My success at the interview was going to determine if I would be able to qualify for the senior analyst role, which for my professional resume would have been dope. Furhter, I found it very suprising that I was being interviewed by 5/6 women when the industry this company is in is like 80% male plus its for a finance role, which definitely leans more male. Anyway, because I was pretty excited about this opportunity this didn't bother me obviously.

So here I am at interview day at the HQ, which composed of 6 30min interviews. The first interview went well with the most senior director, a homely middle aged lady, who I got along with just fine. We just talked about typical behavioural/competency stuff. The second interview was with the only guy (albeit very feminine and nerdy) who would be my manager if I qualified for the senior analyst role. We talked about typical behavioural questions, and it was nothing out of the ordinary. We even had good conversation on outside interests that we could relate to each other on. It was nice that on the way out, he said that my interview with him went very well, and that it was a good sign in being able to get that senior anayst role. (At this point I'm like hell yeah I am crushing this interview, and I am getting that senior role).

Now this 3rd interview is where shit probably hit the fan I presume. This is another middle-aged lady, who just gave me some really weird vibes with her line of comments and questions. Let me quote some of the stuff she talked about and asked me:

"Yea so when I started here on the finance team, it was just 4 guys. They just worked at their desk all day long, and even ate lunch at their cube. For me that was unacceptable. I am more of a 25% work and 75% social kind of person..." (lol... wut?)

"So I see you played tennis. Are you competitive? Ok you are.. Well if we played a company-wide game day, would you be competitive and try and win or be more relaxed? Because I am a very relaxed person, and not competitive at all. Actually, the last time we played me and the other teams all colluded to beat the competitive team haha" (umm weird story but K)

So now I go on to ask her where she sees the company in a couple years as they are struggling. "Well I think this company is going to make or break this upcoming year. Either we bust or we figure out some way to survive. Its looking pretty bleak for our industry and business model, and as a result we have even had large company turnover. Actually, I was even considering interviewing at other places too, but I decided to wait it out a bit" (why the fk you saying that to me??)

And my god this woman didn't ask me a single question about my competency. It was all about the team. How well the team gets along. How everyone is unique, but friendly. She would ask me how I would get along with everyone. Team. Team. Team. Like damn I understand thats important, and I though I made it clear I am a team player, and get along with people pretty easily with my relaxed personality.

Anyway, I finished up that bizarre interview with her, and the next girl about my age comes in to interview me. She gives me a simple excel test, and as soon as I finish it, the HR guy who first met me in the lobby interupted to talk to the girl interviewing me in the hall. They talk for about 45 seconds before she comes back in, grabs her stuff, and walks out. Then the HR guy comes in, and says "I talked to the Directors. This interview is done. They said you were arrogant, disrespectful, cocky, and acted like you didn't want to be here." I mean my stomach just dropped. I couldn't believe what I was hearing because honest to god I thought I was crushing this shit lol. I respond you sure they were talking about me? He says "yup. Okay get up lets go". And let me add, this guy (also nerdy and beta) was LIVID. Like he was straight up upset and mad. Like wtf did those people tell him about me, to get him so worked up. So I get up and he walks me to the front lobby. He takes my ID badge, never looks me in the eye, and says have a nice day, and walked off. I just stood there in the lobby for a minute in utter disbelief.

Anyway, my Grandpa says lesbians are crazy. I think that 3rd interview is what caused this bizarre situation. She was looking for some feminine friend to be able to socialize with at work, and she did not like my responses to her questions. Which to iterate, I was being cordial and professional the whole time with my answers. I bet she wanted me to be all bubbly, smiley, and giddy about working for the team and what not, but no I am going to be professional for this fkin finance related job.

So yea I think my toxic masulinity pissed off her misandrist mindset, and it caused me to be kicked out of the interview, which is one of the most embarassing things that has ever happened to me lol.

TLDR;

I didn't suck up to one of the interviewers to fit her feminist mindset. She took my cordial/professional responses as I guess threatening and proceeded to get me booted out of the interview 10min later.

Update:

These fools had the audacity to send me a followup email saying that they are moving forward with another candidate, but to please go ahead and apply for this other financial analyst role within the company that based on your resume you would be a great candidate for. Hell nahhh

1.) Figure out what you did "wrong" and if there's anything you can do to fix it.

When people criticize me, and it's honest, I generally thank them. Without a mirror, it's hard to notice that you missed a spot while shaving.

2.) Sometimes, it's not you that has a problem, it's the company that has a problem.

 

The story is hard to believe, yet I believe it. We are living in very strange times. I was once the target of an HR gangbang too. Wasn't an interview but had some similarities for sure.

Like OP's story, the catalyst was a soft female with anxiety issues who can't survive unless work is a relaxed, bubbly place where nobody has any pressure to perform. She has the necessary job skills but the adult world is a little too rough for her and she's still 6 years old inside. And this office culture was indeed pretty soft, almost soft enough for her. I was her manager and I'm a little more type A, and that was a poor fit with the office culture and an even poorer fit for her (I didn't hire her).

We peacefully co-existed for 2 yrs (or so I thought) but every once in a while her work was a little short of expectations and I was willing to tell her that directly. Was never mean, just straightforward. "You did X well but you haven't done enough on Y yet, push it a little further before I review it." She would say OK, and then (unbeknownst to me) go to the girls bathroom and start crying and having panic attacks. Keep in mind, I had 2 other subordinates who I treated this exact same way and they loved me as a manager, asked me for b-school recs and I am good friends with them today.

Over time, she secretly built a coalition of 2-3 other folks in the office (all lazy, toxic political types who are not on my team but interact with me) who aren't fans of my no-nonsense, say-less-and-do-more style. She went to HR, suggested HR speak to the others in her little alliance, and next thing you know I'm brought into a meeting with HR and my boss where I'm told that I have formal complaints against me for being "belittling" towards others and I will be monitored closely for 90 days with a not-so-subtle insinuation that I'm probably fired if I don't launch a major dick-sucking campaign.

This was an asset management gig I foolishly left IB for. I quit a day after that meeting and had an IB offer 2 weeks later. Moral of the story, be wary of any place that talks a lot about "culture". Sometimes it's a good thing, but increasingly its becoming a code for "don't upset the snowflakes." These are also places with poor leadership at the top which is why departments like HR and Compliance fill the power vacuum and throw their weight around.

 

Based on how you are describing the situation and the people, you do indeed sound like a cocky douche bag. Pointing out that the other two men were "nerdy" and a "beta male", how is any of that relevant? We get it, you think you're an alpha male, simmer down. I really hope you're trolling, if not, it sounds like the company really dodged a bullet here.

 

Got you beat.....I had an interview several years back with 3 superiors at a financial firm who were all black females. So my intended superior, her superior, and the main boss.

What are the chances of that happening by accident in finance? You almost have a better chance of winning the Powerball.

Didn't get the job and the interviews were pretty normal, but kind of hard not to notice the statistical abnormality

 
mgaT:
Edit 2:

Some people don't like the way I used to describe the people there, where I refer to some as feminine/nerdy. I only use those descriptions to give an idea of the type of people who they were hiring. I can see how that comes off as arrogant sure, but I don't mean it that way. I would consider myself to be a little nerdy, but I just don't subscribe to those feminist tendencies.

On the slim chance this isn't an elaborate troll, do you not see the disconnect between your "edit 2" and the entire story? You describe the people you don't like as "feminine/nerdy" and "nerdy and beta" and "homely" (as if the woman's looks are relevant?); you now say that you don't mean to offend by those attitudes, but that's just the way you are describing how they look. Maybe, just maybe, there is a chance that the people who interviewed you picked up on the fact that you viewed them as effeminate, or homely, or "beta" - all of which sound like pretty good justifications for considering you cocky or arrogant, regardless of whether you "mean it". If you walked into their office and dropped a shit on the desk of the director, and winked over your shoulder and said "I know this seems arrogant, but I don't mean it that way," do you think anyone would give a flying fuck what you meant?

As the old saying goes, if you're looking around the room and can't spot the idiot, it's probably you. If enough people are calling you cocky and arrogant (and given your post, I'd agree), maybe it's not the company that has the issue...

PS - I am aware this dude is almost certainly trolling. But it's only a good troll because 70% of this site has the same exact view of the world.

 

Congrats on not getting the job from hell man. If crazy woman #3 could do that to you in an interview, imagine what she’d do to you on the job. I think the biggest tell tale sign of how crazy she is, is that she felt it necessary to get you thrown out midway instead of just letting you finish your interviews - literally went out of her way to do this.

Also, I’ve met crazy people like that in my F500 role - they just focus on creating drama after drama while underperforming - you won’t learn anything working with them and just tire out / become bitter

 
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BobTheBaker:
Troll thread

Yeah this 100% didn't happen

It's entirely possible it did happen. These ladies were considerably LESS crazy than some of the workplace activists I've run into.

So I'm not saying I believe it 100%. What I am saying is that this is definitely not too crazy to be true. The problem is that...you know that middle aged crazy librarian or curch lady you knew as a kid who just looking for any excuse to make life miserable for you? The current culture at some organizations both rewards and empowers the craziest people there. It's also true that indulging toxic or unethical behavior usually does not sate it, but only causes it to amplify itself.

 

tl;dr

But, I will say I've sat on the other side of the table interviewing. The candidate one time made a wise crack and inappropriately insulted a competitor of ours. I looked at the manager, he grew red. Then calmly said in so many words, "I sure appreciate you taking some time to come in today. We are in early stages of interviews and will be in touch should you be needed to come in again." Dude was ushered out and my manager just went bezerk saying things like, "I think we'd have better luck getting a fuggin monkey from the public zoo to do this role compared to these useless good for nothing target graduates!"

So yes, interviews do get cut short when you say stupid shyt. Don't believe me, try dropping a f bomb in an interview and see how long you remain in the hot seat (that happened too).

 
WolfofWSO:
tl;dr

But, I will say I've sat on the other side of the table interviewing. The candidate one time made a wise crack and inappropriately insulted a competitor of ours. I looked at the manager, he grew red. Then calmly said in so many words, "I sure appreciate you taking some time to come in today. We are in early stages of interviews and will be in touch should you be needed to come in again." Dude was ushered out and my manager just went bezerk saying things like, "I think we'd have better luck getting a fuggin monkey from the public zoo to do this role compared to these useless good for nothing target graduates!"

So yes, interviews do get cut short when you say stupid shyt. Don't believe me, try dropping a f bomb in an interview and see how long you remain in the hot seat (that happened too).

Really good post. People at WSO seem to think that finance-meme pages are good representations of how people actually are in the real world, lol. In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king...https://media2.giphy.com/media/3o6UB9ukFq0w2TonOo/giphy-downsized.gif" alt="chuckle" />
 
PeterMBA2018:
Out the company and team if they were actually this bad

You may be surprised, but many companies have data scrappers that comb the internet for their name. We found out the hard way when we put out a newsletter which had our new client; said client came down hard on us saying we were not given permission to announce that fact publicly and this was a tiny organization all things considered.

If the big company came to this thread after seeing their name posted publicly, it wouldn't take more than a phone call to the finance group about a recent interview where said candidate was ushered out. It's putting the OPs rep on the line for future endeavors.

 

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two things:

  • ditto to what everyone else said about dodging a bullet. the 3rd interviewer was incredibly unprofessional and that doesn't bode well for you

  • check your ego, take a good hard look in the mirror, and ask yourself (be really critical here) "how did I actually come off?" there's a good chance you weren't as neutral as you expected.

that being said, I still think you dodged a bullet

 

Toxic masculinity doesn't exist. It is a SJW buzz word. Masculinity forged modern society. We invented agriculture, laid the railroads, built city infrastructure, mined all the minerals, etc... Men have been the dominant leaders of our species since men the Paleolithic era. We are meant to be the proverbial hunter/gatherers while women are meant to birth and raise children. This dynamic has been corrupted due to lack of hardship/struggle. Most modern day men are weak effeminate sissies without testosterone.

Corporations are endorsing these policies from the top because "career women" and "beta-males" make wonderful employees that don't challenge hierarchy or ask for compensation increases. Those in power want subservient slave workers who place work before family.

Now Fortune 500 companies are outright asking for "LGBTQ status" because these individuals are less likely to have children and therefore more likely to prioritize work above all else. Corporations have no business asking these questions.

We live in a sick dying society in the run-up before the Fourth Turning which will probably usher in WWIII.

 
InVinoVeritas:
Toxic masculinity doesn't exist. It is a SJW buzz word. Masculinity forged modern society. We invented agriculture, laid the railroads, built city infrastructure, mined all the minerals, etc... Men have been the dominant leaders of our species since men the Paleolithic era. We are meant to be the proverbial hunter/gatherers while women are meant to birth and raise children. This dynamic has been corrupted due to lack of hardship/struggle. Most modern day men are weak effeminate sissies without testosterone.

Corporations are endorsing these policies from the top because "career women" and "beta-males" make wonderful employees that don't challenge hierarchy or ask for compensation increases. Those in power want subservient slave workers who place work before family.

Now Fortune 500 companies are outright asking for "LGBTQ status" because these individuals are less likely to have children and therefore more likely to prioritize work above all else. Corporations have no business asking these questions.

We live in a sick dying society in the run-up before the Fourth Turning which will probably usher in WWIII.

To be fair, I appreciate the way OP used "toxic masculinity". Whatever that is, it's not a bad thing. Why not embrace the term?

I would also argue that there's a such thing as 'toxic femininity' that exists but is often times overlooked and not talked about, since only the LADIES and self-proclaimed feminists usually have an ire to speakout this way.

 

I don't like toxic because it implies masculinity in and of itself is bad.

Our society is sick when women gather in mass to yell and scream for their right to kill babies months before birth. I don't necessarily believe in outlawing abortion (because the black market will just fill the void, demand won't disappear) but this whole psychotic religion around modern day neo-feminism is insanely destructive. Being a mother is the most important job on earth so we can raise future generations. It seems that these mentally ill feminazis exist solely to oppose anything that is traditional or conservative, regardless of merit.

Its overlooked because the media triumphs these people as champions of some kind of superior utopia where we are all sterile, live in tiny micro units in crowded dystopian cities, eat synthetic meat, give confused young boys hormone blockers, and destroy our history. Meanwhile these same "feminists" champion Islam as some peaceful religion while they pour acid on and stone their women to death in backwards massively oppressive nations with terrible standards of living.

It's severe mental illness - I don't know how else to describe it. Seeing that woman wearing an American flag hijab marching for woman's rights was the most bizarre thing I have ever seen in my life.

 
  1. Hard to believe this is true.

  2. Super unprofessional behavior from these guys if true. Barring outrights threats or lewd behavior, hard for me to imagine DQing a candidate mid-interview, much less having security escort them out.

  3. Tone of your writing and common sense suggests your behavior/demeanor was, at the very least, off-putting. I’d really think about whether this how you want to be perceived by other prospective employers.

  4. Not sure why so many posts are using this as a launchpad to vent their views about the role of feminism in society. OP’s (likely fabricated) story indicates there’s a woman in one company who is biased against (heavy sarcasm) alpha male types and appears to be severely lacking in professional judgement.

Life's is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
 

Well it was the HR guy who escorted me out but nonetheless it was messed up lol. My writing was only used to create an interesting read, I obviously left any sort of sarcasm/superiority complex at the door when I did the actual interview.

Maybe it wasn't feminism. Maybe she was having an awful day. Or maybe she judged me based on my background story (where I grew up or went to school idk). I am just using some context clues from the whole situation to guess it may have been caused by some sort of feminist ideals.

 

I get you were trying to get a reaction when you wrote this / made this up, which is mostly fine.

My irritation is mostly with the people who responded to this by launching into a diatribe about feminism, despite the fact that the actual content of the story in no way, shape, or form touched on feminism. However irritating and incompetent your (likely fabricated) third interviewer may have been, it sounds like it was specific to her personal preferences / views - latching onto this as evidence supporting broad, anti-feminist notions is unwarranted.

Life's is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
 

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