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No, but it does not help their cause. Dems rolled out the 'war on women' campaign a while ago, now the dude comes out and says this a few months before a federal election, THEN another GOP dude comes out and defends him. To top it off, he apologizes for 'wording', but there's no possible alternate explanation that doesn't make him and everyone associated with him sound like a jackass.

The only thing Romney did right was to have his prospective right hand man call him and tell him to drop out of the race, and he didn't....and Romney himself didn't make the call so it's an opening into why he didn't publicly and personally put down the rabid dog.

There's no possible damage control on this, they just have to move on to the next topic and take their lumps. Expect the lady that beats him to make a media presence shortly. This probably cost them +/- a full percentage point come election day.

Get busy living
 

Akin said this morning that he won't apologize for being pro-life. I don't think he should have to either, but he might want to apologize for being an idiot. If this guy believes something as inane as a woman's body can prevent an unwanted pregnancy, he probably believes that man and dinosaurs lived at the same time.... or even that the speed of light is not a constant(which explains the apparent misgivings about the age of the universe) He was voted into the seat, and voting is the only right way to decide his future. But he could at least resign form the House Science and Technology committee.

 

"No, but it does not help their cause. Dems rolled out the 'war on women' campaign a while ago, now the dude comes out and says this a few months before a federal election, THEN another GOP dude comes out and defends him. To top it off, he apologizes for 'wording', but there's no possible alternate explanation that doesn't make him and everyone associated with him sound like a jackass."

WHich GOP dude came out and defended him

 

I thought Akin's foot-in-the-mouth moment and the stir it caused among the right wing illustrated an interesting conflict in pro-life thinking. The main argument made by pro-life groups and supporters is that life begins at conception, making abortion murder, immoral, and wrong. They try to dismiss claims that they are legislating a women's right to her body and instead are here to support the rights of the unborn.

But with all the republicans stepping up and saying Akin is insulting and wrong, and saying that they are okay with abortion in certain cases (like rape or when the mother's life is at risk), it's evident that protecting the unborn is not the only thing they take into consideration; they do take a woman's right to her body into account. Why else would "murder" be okay whether life is conceived from rape or not?

Which means all this parsing of what rape is, which rapes should count and which shouldn't, when abortions should be allowed, etc. is really just subjectively legislating when a woman can have a right to her body. And it makes a lot of the pro-life argument mostly a slippery slope.

 

He was most likely misspoke when he said legitimate and was meaning forcible rape, as defined by the bill that Republicans and a number of Democrats signed. It would have changed the Federal definition of rape to mean forcible rape.

Story is nothing more than hype. The bill only sought to stop Federal funding for abortion which to be honest, is rather fair. Whether you support abortion or not, it is generally something that most people want to avoid if at all possible.

But of course the media and Democrats will make this out to be Republicans banning abortion and all that other crap. God forbid people looked past the headlines.

 
TNA:
He was most likely misspoke when he said legitimate and was meaning forcible rape, as defined by the bill that Republicans and a number of Democrats signed. It would have changed the Federal definition of rape to mean forcible rape.

Story is nothing more than hype. The bill only sought to stop Federal funding for abortion which to be honest, is rather fair. Whether you support abortion or not, it is generally something that most people want to avoid if at all possible.

But of course the media and Democrats will make this out to be Republicans banning abortion and all that other crap. God forbid people looked past the headlines.

No, changing 'legitimate' to 'forcible' does not change the nature of what he said. He stated that if a woman is raped and gets pregnant, then the rape could not have been forcible and must have been consensual, otherwise the woman's body would not have allowed her to get pregnant.

So if a woman is raped and becomes pregnant, then the sex must have been consensual? You agree with this statement?

 
evan1482:
TNA:
He was most likely misspoke when he said legitimate and was meaning forcible rape, as defined by the bill that Republicans and a number of Democrats signed. It would have changed the Federal definition of rape to mean forcible rape.

Story is nothing more than hype. The bill only sought to stop Federal funding for abortion which to be honest, is rather fair. Whether you support abortion or not, it is generally something that most people want to avoid if at all possible.

But of course the media and Democrats will make this out to be Republicans banning abortion and all that other crap. God forbid people looked past the headlines.

No, changing 'legitimate' to 'forcible' does not change the nature of what he said. He stated that if a woman is raped and gets pregnant, then the rape could not have been forcible and must have been consensual, otherwise the woman's body would not have allowed her to get pregnant.

So if a woman is raped and becomes pregnant, then the sex must have been consensual? You agree with this statement?

Calm down killer. I don't support any of it, all I am saying is that there are two parts to the outrage directed at him.

1) Legitimate rape

2) You don't get pregnant from rape

Part 1 is what I believe he misspoke on. Part two I have no idea about.

 

"I thought Akin's foot-in-the-mouth moment and the stir it caused among the right wing illustrated an interesting conflict in pro-life thinking. The main argument made by pro-life groups and supporters is that life begins at conception, making abortion murder, immoral, and wrong. They try to dismiss claims that they are legislating a women's right to her body and instead are here to support the rights of the unborn.

But with all the republicans stepping up and saying Akin is insulting and wrong, and saying that they are okay with abortion in certain cases (like rape or when the mother's life is at risk), it's evident that protecting the unborn is not the only thing they take into consideration; they do take a woman's right to her body into account. Why else would "murder" be okay whether life is conceived from rape or not?

Which means all this parsing of what rape is, which rapes should count and which shouldn't, when abortions should be allowed, etc. is really just subjectively legislating when a woman can have a right to her body. And it makes a lot of the pro-life argument mostly a slippery slope."

I think most of the outrage on the GOP front has to do with the "woman's body has a way of shutting that whole thing down" part of the comment. This has no basis in actual science and has no place in the party. If he had just said that he does not believe that a child that is a product of rape, should be aborted and that we should execute the rapist and not the child there would be no controversy.

 
Edmundo Braverman:
Turns out Akin's "theory" is a pretty popular pathology among GOP politicians:

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/akin-not-the-first-a-short-hi…

What a bunch of asshats...

The GOP is Ron Burgundy in the bar: times a changed, they did not. Knowing their competitive culture, they'll come around eventually and upgrade and try to do it better than anyone else. For the time being, they're fucking up and it's weird: they know it and can't stop themselves.
Get busy living
 

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