Tom Brady crying

Edmundo Braverman:

The bullshit where he said he refused to play for San Diego even though they had first pick in the draft. You play where the fuck you're drafted and you make the most of it. You don't fuck around and throw a tantrum because the team you want to play for didn't get to pick you.

It would have been prohibitively expensive, but San Diego should have sat his ass for a year to punish him for his hubris and send a message to all the other college dipshits who think they're too cool.

I think I remember Archie Manning being the marin architect behind that move. Either way, it was complete BS.

Edmundo Braverman:

The bullshit where he said he refused to play for San Diego even though they had first pick in the draft. You play where the fuck you're drafted and you make the most of it. You don't fuck around and throw a tantrum because the team you want to play for didn't get to pick you.

It would have been prohibitively expensive, but San Diego should have sat his ass for a year to punish him for his hubris and send a message to all the other college dipshits who think they're too cool.

Edmundo Braverman:

The bullshit where he said he refused to play for San Diego even though they had first pick in the draft. You play where the fuck you're drafted and you make the most of it. You don't fuck around and throw a tantrum because the team you want to play for didn't get to pick you.

It would have been prohibitively expensive, but San Diego should have sat his ass for a year to punish him for his hubris and send a message to all the other college dipshits who think they're too cool.

Edmundo, as a Giants fan, I like Manning, so full disclosure. And I understand your point of view - but teams DO generally meet with their top picks to make sure they are on-board before getting picked. If you're the #1 pick and you know you're going somewhere in the first round, who says you can't influence where you end up? This kind of stuff probably happens behind the scenes a decent amount - whether it be teams passing on players or teams trading down in the draft. It just so happened that this case was very public. It's not that most players are "honorable" and go where they're drafted, it's that most of them probably don't give a shit as long as they're making millions out of college...but if you happen to come from a crazy QB family dynasty and get some sort of advice from big bro and daddy on what to look for - and you have the leverage to look for that - why not?

As far as Brady - nothing against the guy. Obviously a great QB, though he does come off as a dick often. His recent disappointments in the playoffs though are starting to speak for themselves...

kelleykid:

tom brady is a stud

but check this out

http://www.ihatetombrady.com/

isn't that slander 100 times over?

Hahah that is the most amateurish yet simultaneously amazing website I have ever seen.

There is no doubt that Tom Brady is a stud, as one of the tags on the post is "perfect human." I also tagged Colin Cowherd cause that dude has a hard on for Brady. Doesn't stop me from wanting to hit Brady with a shovel.

kelleykid:

tom brady is a stud

but check this out

http://www.ihatetombrady.com/

isn't that slander 100 times over?

This guy is a huge douche, but I would trade places with him in a heartbeat. mmmm bridgett Moynihan, yummy

alexpasch:

I hate the Pats but I have a very deep respect for Tom Brady.

Tom Brady is one of those guys that just has this insatiable desire to be the best, and he busts his ass to make sure he is. What I respect most of all though, is that he did it while at the same time having virtually no one believe in him, and overcoming that adversity is incredibly difficult. It requires you to truly believe in yourself. He'll always have a chip on his shoulder because of that.

Pause.

He played on a team that cheated

He got bailed out on three occasions by Adam Vinatieri (tuck rule, SB against the Rams, SB against the Panthers in which he also started on the 40 yard line thanks to the Panthers kicking the ball off out of bounds like amateurs)

He got bailed out by the refs on the tuck rule play

Since Spygate, he's just been owned left and right. You lay a finger on the guy and he looks for a flag. And honestly, yeah he's a good quarterback, I get that. But for all the talk of him being so fucking cool in the clutch, has he ever led a meaningful game winning TD drive? Only one I can think of was when the Patriots beat the Ravens in 2007 to keep the perfect* season alive...and even then, he got bailed out by a dumbass timeout call on the part of the Ravens.

<span class=keyword_link><a href=/finance-dictionary/what-is-alpha>alpha</a></span> mail:

someone get some toast and peanut butter, there's a whole lotta jelly in this thread

Seth Davis:

Since Spygate, his winning percentage has increased.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/12/13/week-14-…

While you may forever hate anyone associated with Spygate, I would argue that the patriots were not alone. It doesn't make it right but much worse stuff goes on all the time.

The whole "other people are doing worse things" argument is bullshit. Let's here some concrete examples if that's the case. Otherwise, that's a bunch of crap.

Also, regular season records are great and all, but who gives a fuck if you win 8 or 12 or even 16 games if you don't win the Super Bowl? I guarantee you that lil' Tommy would trade in the 16-0 record for a Super Bowl win in XLII. Not to mention, it's one thing to lose a Super Bowl, 45 teams have lost them. But only one team has gone 18-1.