Outlook on Asian Business Schools
Hi Guys,
As a student in Singapore, I was wondering how Asian Business Schools (Nanyang Business School/Peking HSBC Business School etc) are viewed at BB/HF/MBB. With China taking a big role in the economy, are Asian Business graduates increasingly valued or are Asian schools still considered 2nd tier compared to the top ones in the states and UK?
What do you guys think?
brand equity only changes after decades. recruiting is still regional via location advantage for most international opportunities.
Dude, I go to a top business school in Hong Kong (think HKU/HKUST/CUHK), and at least in Hong Kong we do quite well in terms of securing internship offers at top BBs
Oh sick, that sounds great! Is this for internships in Hong Kong or is this at NY/London?
Sorry for the late response. So in Hk, knowing Chinese is a huge plus. If you want to do IBD (especially in HK) you absolutely need Chinese (what I learned from all the spring insights I went to). If you want to do S&T, english will suffice and from my own experience the interview process is less rigorous than in London & New York (What my friends have told me) and quite fit based.
As for the school, in Hong Kong, banks love HKUST students, especially if you are studying global business or quantitative finance. I myself do not study either of those but still managed to get an S&T internship offer for the summer. Probably best to ask someone who studies in a school in Singapore for insight about Singapore.
I also noticed, this year local hires have become increasingly popular, and a lot of my friends have received offers in IBD, S&T, AM & WM. As long as you have good internships, a CV showing you are right for the job and cool interests (important) you should get interviews. After that its all up to you. You can inbox me if you wanna know more.
In terms of Summer Analyst / Analyst positions NY does not hire from non-US schools, so if you want to go to NY, you will need to either get 2-3 years experience or do Masters at Columbia / MIT / Yale etc. after your Bachelors. For London, it is hard to get in from a business school in Asia but not impossible, you need to network hard and get referrals in order to be considered. Without referrals you stand no chance.
Otherwise, I agree with what was previously said here, if you want to get into BB go for HKUST or NUS. Generally, in Hong Kong you would get 1-2 analysts from Asian business school (Mostly HKUST) out of 10 (others coming from Oxbridge, Ivy League etc.). However, recently BBs began hiring more from local bschools.
I can speak to NBS. For the jobs you are looking at right now it would be difficult but not impossible from NBS. Singapore usually has a hierachy. It usually starts with the top schools globally Harvard, Princeton, LSE etc and then they usually look at 2nd tier global schools like UCLA, Warwick etc. After that it is the very top student from the local schools. I believe NUS places the best for the roles you are referring. SMU probably a close 2nd. If you are top student you will be able to find a solid job but can't assure it is going to be in MBB/BBs.
Keep in mind that this is from an undergraduate perspective. If you are talking from a grad school perspective then it would very different as local business schools are not at all highly recruited for those roles at an MBA level.
B schools in Asia (Originally Posted: 07/03/2013)
I'll be starting my undergrad degree at a business school this fall term. I've been given two offers: HKUST and NUS. Do you guys have any opinions about either of them. I'm looking to enter a BB in the region and eventually/hopefully go to WallSt. Any advice, tips or anything?
Aside from regional preferences, HKUST has a slightly stronger reputation especially for science/tech
I'm not familiar with NUS but HKUST is far from the city, so if you're staying on campus it won't be convenient to network.
It takes about 20-30 minutes to get to Central (the business district) from HKUST's campus...it's not too bad, but definitely something to consider. Just hop on a mini-bus and then take a quick ride on the MTR. I think the commute to the city is worth it since the HKUST campus is beautiful. Very, very different from the hustle and bustle of Central or Tsim Sha Tsui.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/HKUST_campus_v…
Thanks, but I'll be attending the business faculty of either schools so I don't think the strength of the science faculty should concern me. Or am I mistaken?
Yep, I've actually been to both schools. The HKUST campus is definitely scenic.
it should, if you want to work in the tech industry, VC, healthcare, etc.
HK and Singapore are 2 major finance hubs in Asia, but they're pretty different cities. Think about where you want to work. That should influence your decision.
Language is another issue you should consider. Though they are both very cosmopolitan cities, not knowing Chinese (Cantonese) is still a disadvantage in HK, while use of English is much more prevalent in Singapore.
While this advice might not be immediately relevant to you now, remember that you'll also be competing with graduates from top US/UK business schools for finance jobs in both HK and Singapore.
Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. Do you know which B school is more recognized overseas like in the US? Thanks
Closer to an hour, actually. Minibus ride (excluding wait time) is around 12 minutes to an entrance. MTR ride to one of the MTR stations with the mini-bus stops (Hang Hau, Choi Hung, Po Lam) from central is 30-40 minutes.
FWIW, I worked with HKUST alumni (that lived on campus during school) and they told me that 1) the commute was a bitch and 2) the scenery was overrated.
IME neither university is well recognized overseas; I never heard of either school until I came to HK.
Well, that was kind of expected. What about Asia, then?
They're both ranked pretty highly in Asia. HKUST would be better known in HK and NUS in Singapore, but outside those cities they're pretty similarly known/unknown (I'd say most US/UK unis are much better known) in Asia. You'll also find that many professors from both universities are from mainland China, so the teaching style might not be very different.
I dunno much about HKUST (though I know it and NUS are ranked about the same I believe). However, one of my friends is from Singapore and knows some ppl. that go to NUS. (NOT the biz school though). anyways, here's the rundown on NUS:
The good:
Top ranked business school in Asia and pretty highly ranked worldwide (even counting US ivies)
If you want to work in Asia, its very well respected and you'll gain lots more in terms of networking if you go
A pretty western curriculum and no one in the states will think you spent all your time memorizing for exams. Also, the school has western style ethics and rules so no one will think you cheated your way through (I've seen this with people that go to lesser known schools in China; It sucks because many people get their degrees legitimately but the school has a bad reputation)
I believe they offer scholarships for foreign students but not so sure how that works.
The bad:
Have you considered Australian schools? Melbourne Business School or the AGSM may be an option.
Top MBA programs in Asia? (Originally Posted: 03/28/2009)
Are Asian MBA programs respected at BB firms in the U.S. and Europe?
Also, do I need to know an Asian language to do well?
I just think that going for my graduate degree in another continent would be exciting...and i think the international experience should look good on my resume.
What do you guys think?
I think you should get an MBA from Africa seriously.
INSEAD in Singapore, CEIBS in China
HKUST-Kellogg's EMBA
IIM-A and ISB ( somewhat new ) are great - not so easy to get in though.
Singapore's stand-alone MBA programmes from NUS, Nanyang aren't well respected by BB's ( or front-office roles in general )
wtf, then i guess i should just go to INSEAD or Kellogg straight...
what are the top 5 MBAs in Asia?
http://www.topmba.com/research/global_200_business_schools/top_business…
Check that out. INSEAD Singapore is top. But it seems that they are far, far below the "prestige" you would get from the Tier 1 U.S. / European b-schools.
Harvard
I'd definitely stick with the UK or the US for schooling. For international experience, I think it would probably be better to lateral over to HK or something and spend maybe a year or two in an office there. I think most everyone will agree that HK will only become more and more important as Asia rises in the near future - there is probably a ton of money and deals to be made there.
MBA programs in the US or UK are better. Well, Insead in France and IMD in Switzerland are also good. Some of the good feeders into BBs from Asian schools include IIM-A, ISB, Insead in Singapore and HKUST. IIM and ISB are pretty tough to get into. If you really want to experience a new place, I would suggest either Insead or IMD. They're not really in different continents but certainly in different countries.
You cannot be serious.
Reputation of these MBA programs in APAC? (Originally Posted: 01/03/2017)
I am looking to get a 1yr or Accelerated MBA (18 months) in the next year or so. Unfortunately, only a handful of truly elite schools are providing them currently. I seek to work in Singapore/HK post-MBA. Can anybody throw some light into the reputations of these programs (below) in the APAC regions especially SG/HK? Thanks
Programs: Cornell (1 yr), IESE Business School, Oxford, Cambridge, IE business school
Go to Kellogg
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