UBS SG (SA) or BNPP UK (SA)
Would love some advice re picking between a summer position at UBS SG or BNPP UK, both for summer analyst!
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UBS SG will move to new office next summer, new office building is pretty nice. Most of the peps working there are local.
Deal flow, pretty good - probably the strongest team in DCM in SEA.
Hope it helps.
Cheers! What’s the dealflow like though - is it mainly real estate stuff, or is it a diverse ish array of deals? I’m quite into industrials / renewables, so wondering if UBS SG handles those
As an intern you will be part of generalist pool, so you will get whatever is going on and where the help is needed. You can indicate your preference and maybe you will get industry group you're interested in ... but really hard to tell.
Deals are diverse, it is SEA region and most of the deals(99%) are outside of Singapore ...
Btw...hours in SG are pretty bad.
fair enough re hours lol, but I'm guessing that the learning and exposure would be amazing.
Regarding interns being generalists - i guess there's a wide array of deals that come down, but is there any one industry / focus that comes up for UBS SG (or is that simply impossible to pin down).
Interesting re most deals being outside of Singapore though - this does sound like a huge plus
As someone who has worked in southeast asia ib, I would suggest you walk away from it if possible. It is more like 1.5x of hours and work vs IB in other parts of world... a bit more or a bit less depending on which bank
i do not particularly mind more work though - more exposure would be great (although that might just be naive of me)
If you do not mind me asking - where did you exit to after working in SEA IB?
Exit opportunities are pretty good, there is a lot of PE firms and they are active in the region. If you know local language could help but not a major factor.
Most of the PE firms have offices in SG so shouldn't be a problem for exit, and there is a lot of recruiters.
I exited to a PE. It is ok to think like this but if you think about working crazy for 10+ years, you may think otherwise.
SEA in general just have crazy hours, it is slightly better in buyside but it would still be crazily long
Exposure wise I don't think you should buy into the stories of different geographies. You get exposure in different European countries as well in UK.
Back when I was in IB, I got to do loads of data mining and data in SEA is a pain in ass to access. So many stuff in local languages and some Vietnamese / Thai companies have their financials in scanned local languages pdf
I exited to a PE. It is easy to say you can stand the long hours there. But situation only improve slightly in some cases. In SEA they just work long, even when you get senior. Not sure if you will think otherwise if you know you gonna work till 1am in next 5-6 years
SEA in general just have crazy hours, it is slightly better in buyside but it would still be crazily long
Exposure wise I don't think you should buy into the stories of different geographies. You get exposure in different European countries as well in UK.
Back when I was in IB, I got to do loads of data mining and data in SEA is a pain in ass to access. So many stuff in local languages and some Vietnamese / Thai companies have their financials in scanned local languages pdf
Btw, I believe UBS SG has better exit than BNP UK but I guess they don't matter much if you are ok to stay in IB for life
Bump
Didn’t UBS SG send out offers like more than a month ago
BNP
why?
BNP London.
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