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Not sure what "SophBB" is talking about. This is actually one of the less clear-cut versus threads I've seen in awhile. Definitely UBS is still a stronger name than HW and I'm assuming UBS is NYC too which is another plus. Since you seem to be deadset on PE, I would say UBS but don't be surprised to see low bonus numbers or being cut at some point through no fault of your own. Getting into one of the top groups is a must. HW is definitely a safer bet but not close enough to Bair/Blair/HL level where I would say pick it over UBS.

 

I get that people here generally believe MM = underrated and UBS = bad, but this is ridiculous. UBS is a global brand that is going through some tough times but is still a massive bank and they do huge deals. UBS sends analysts to MFs once in a while and you can absolutely go from UBS to UMM PE. HW isn't even the best of the MM firms, in fact there's been many discussions on here about how they literally just do cookie cutter deals, their analysts don't know how to think outside the box at all, and many PE firms actively dislike HW analysts. Sure, HW will basically guarantee you a look to some no name LMM fund, but unless you are dead set on that go to UBS.

 
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Worked at UBS. UBS does not send analysts "regularly" to MFs - as a matter of fact, there are maybe 2 analysts sent to MF (BX/Carlyle/KKR) over the past five years and those are through heavy batting from the MDs in very rare cases. I would say 20-30% analysts end up at MM/LMM, 10% at HFs and rest at random finance / FP&A / corp dev roles.

EDIT: Look. I consider "once in a while" means 1 or 2 out of every year's analyst class. This is not the case for UBS. 2-3 analysts going to UMM (THL, Thoma Bravo, L Catterton, LG&P...) each year. I do not know folks at HW so can't comment but if you are considering PE after UBS, these are the facts.

 

Relax guy. "Once in a while" doesn't mean "regularly" it actually means the opposite. I swear some people will find any excuse to rag on UBS lol

 

UBS isn't a BB anymore in the US. People need to stop regurgitating ranks on this site from old threads. Stay up to the date if you can but I know it's tough if your one of the few who are actually working FT on here. Things change fast in this space.

 

relax incoming intern, it aint that deep and you totally missed the point. If you want UBS to no longer be a BB to make yourself feel better go ahead.

I'm just saying you're comparing apples to oranges, MM IB in Richmond VA to "Global bank" in NYC. Better?

 

No you go ahead and relax tiered of you guys go around and spreading false info. I agree I would marginally pick UBS in this case but don't fucking act like bonuses haven't been shit the last two years with cuts and that everything is rosy from five years ago. Not sure where the idea of "MF exits" come from also that is very rare just as it is at HW. NYC is probably the biggest factor here so yes pick UBS, but it's not a BB in NA.

 

"Marginally pick UBS"? Should be hands down pick UBS. You are one dumb intern, better hope they give everyone return offers

 

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