Umich Ross culture, competitiveness, and placement
I've been admitted into the University of Michigan's Ross school of business and am ecstatic. Lately though, I've been reading some concerning things:
Some posters are saying that despite its target status, most recruiting for BB's and EB's recruit through very selective clubs? I was kind of under the impression that once I had made it to a target I was set (Meaning - I am past the part of luck (some douche club frat not accepting me because of stupid things) determining my immediate future). I was looking to get into a BB or EB out of undergrad and being that Ross is a target how much do these clubs play a role.
I also would like to know abt any current or former Ross student's experience at the school in general and the vibe/culture of the university. I was reading that Ross is very competitive, and its cutthroat, which is one of the reasons why I avoided Stern. Is this the reality at Ross? Do people at UM view Ross as elitist? What is Ross's layman prestige?
Overall I really like the school and seem to like the architecture but once other decisions roll around (Upenn CAS, Georgetown McDonough, and ND Mendoza) these issues (Coupled with the outrageous OOS tuition) may all affect my ultimate decision.
The truth is no matter which college you go to you are not exactly set per say because assuming the school is known mainly for its IB placement naturally several students would be gunning for IB you need to understand that you are going up against several people with the same goal as you from now .Knowing that Umich is a great school and if you are able to set yourself apart early you should be able to get your foot in the door.
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I had a great time at Ross. Class content is really easy compared to the difficulty of courses at the rest of UMich. Culture is what you make of it. Yes, banks recruit through clubs, but would imagine this is the case anywhere. You can still recruit without being in these clubs too, and all it takes is getting into one club to have the whole expanse of networking opportunities laid out for you.
What does this mean in practice? Club specific OCR and resume drops? Alumni only talk with members of the clubs they were in?
Certain banks will skip OCR and email clubs directly (M Klein pretty much recruits off the resume books of a few of the clubs from what I remember). Club alumni tend to send emails about events/applications/etc directly to seniors that they know. Club alumni are more willing to hop on the phone with current members of their club, but that's not to say they don't talk to everyone else too. CDO office is open to everyone, but a lot of kids in finance clubs find the club network more helpful than career dev office.
Would you say the majority of BB's and EB's do this? Like what % of banks are off limits if you don't get into these exclusive clubs?
No banks are off-limits. You just have to work a bit harder and make sure to stay on top of emails
Agree with daddydimon lol, no bank is "off limits" but they will be harder. Lots of the boutiques tend to recruit from clubs at Michigan, but I've noticed bulge brackets are a little less exclusive in that regard. Just my opinion/observation though
Agree with this, I love Ross. Definitely not as cutthroat as you're imagining it to be. Made a lot of great friends and had a great time. Banks do recruit through clubs, but there's always exceptions, and as previous commenter stated, this is true at pretty much every school.
You sound like a weenie.
If you’re letting the architecture have an impact on this decision I want to emphasize the above even more. This has to be a troll.
I'd assume most people would want to like the aesthetic of a school if they are planning to spend hundreds of thousands in tuition and live there for 4 years. Also will walk on wrestling team so not sure abt the weenie thing...
There is no point in your life at which you will be past the point of luck playing a part in determining your future, so if that's your expectation you should adjust it quickly or you will be in for a rude awakening.
A lot of target schools, if not the vast majority, have a good amount of OCR run through the various finance clubs at the school. That's not to say you can't make it without being a member but it'll definitely require some more legwork.
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