UMich Ross or Northwestern for undergrad?
I probably want to go into investment banking after college, and was wondering the differences in placement between these two schools.
I probably want to go into investment banking after college, and was wondering the differences in placement between these two schools.
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Northwestern. It's a better (more prestigious) school and your opportunities for IB will be the same as Ross. However, at Northwestern not everyone will be trying to go to IB, so in theory you have a better shot at Northwestern. Can't go too wrong with either school though--just make sure you do your best to maintain a high GPA.
Choosing colleges over marginal IB placements isn't smart. You should choose the school you want to spend 4 years at most!
Northwestern. More prestige and higher ranked. Doesn't mean michigan is bad. Wall Street just obsessed over us News rankings and private schools
gonna have to disagree. northwestern might be more prestigious or whatever than UM as a whole but from what I've seen Ross has very good placement to IB in NY. Consulting opportunities at Northwestern will be better but for banking Id say go to Ross. UM will definitely be more fun too if you're into that scene
Will have to disagree as well.
Although I think NW is the "better" school and is more prestigious, I'd say Ross is better for IB recruitment. I have a close friend from Northwestern who went through SA recruiting for IB. He landed at an EB and will be going there for full-time, but it was a struggle for him. According to him, OCR opportunities are relatively weak, particularly for NY banks (they place very few kids there).
He also said that the regional Chicago offices did their OCR interviews earlier at Ross, UChicago, etc. before coming to Northwestern as a sort of last stop, so essentially there were fewer available spots for NW students to compete for.
Michigan will also be a much more fun school from a social standpoint. Ross grads are well represented at all the banks in NYC as well.
WTF is going on in this thread? Ross >>> NW from my perspective as a Big 10 grad who spent a decade in banking with no attachment to either of these schools (UIUC grad). Ross sends way more people to Wall St. Plus, it's a much, much more fun school, if you are interested in having an active social life or care about sports at all.
I would choose Ross. Its placement is on par if not better than NW, you will be able to study business as an undergrad, and have a more traditional college experience (better sports culture). Can't go wrong either way though.
Just from the people I've met, it seems Ross's placement is ahead of Northwestern, especially so for NYC opportunities (can't comment on Chicago). I just recently went through PE recruiting and I feel like I met a ton of Ross (and IU Kelley, oddly enough) grads at the mega funds and top MMs I interviewed with. At my bank, there are 4-5 Ross kids in NYC banking in my year, and one Northwestern kid in Chicago.
This is all SA for this summer. I go to NU. In general, NU is fairly liberal-artsy and isn't commited to serious career prep besides consulting, but is still a highly-respected school that offers solid opportunities.
The main OCR at NU was Baird, Blair, HL (no Lincoln which seemed odd).
BAML and GS were the only BBs that did actual OCR, but supposedly they don't take many kids.
There were also resume drops for JPM, MS, Lazard, Jefferies, Greenhill, Moelis, Citi, WF, Nomura.
No sign of the Euro banks except a DB DCM role.
Other MM/boutique banks - Lazard MM had OCR while Piper, Sagent, DeSilva Phillips, Petrie had resume drops.
In the last year, kids have gotten into all the BBs and some EBs (Evercore, Centerview, Blackstone as examples) that didn't have resume drops but it requires serious effort. It's difficult to get positions in NY as most of the OCR/resume drops are for Chicago offices. There is a newly formed IB club though I'm not sure how good it is and then a business "fraternity" which is for both genders and it helps with networking and general career prep.
I don't know anything about Ross.
ayo123, do you know the approximate number students that got offers from BBs and EBs this year?
Don't pick a school based on IB placement. Pick a school based on where you think you will succeed in the near future and are most comfortable with.
I can't comment on the number of students who got SA from NU and it wouldn't even be valuable if I knew because I don't know how many pursued IB.
And I disagree with the people saying don't choose a school based on IB placement. Some go to college to get a good job. If you don't think that way, that's fine, but someone else might get the job. I'm definitely not someone who thinks work and prestige are the main things in life, but if you are, I respect your decision.
Also, in regards to Ross being a better college experience, I can't speak to Ross, but NU is fine if you are social. There are plenty of rich frat stars if that's what you want or good athletes to go to the gym with. There are certainly nerds, but there are lots of other types. There's not the huge school spirit high school stuff, but you can find friends and have fun no matter what type you are.
Also, don't just look at BB and EB placement because places like Baird, Blair, HL, Lazard MM are well respected in Chicago and open a lot of doors such as solid MM PE.
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