Undergrad; UT, UVA, NW?

Undergrad: UT, Northwestern, or UVA?

I got into UVA, UT, and Northwestern and I'm trying to decide. I don't care so much about the name as what would position me best for a job, then business school.

I qualify for instate tuition at UT. Darden (assuming I get in junior year) is slightly better than McCombs but it doesn't seem worth paying more than 3x tuition at UVA for another state school education. Any thoughts?

It's pretty much between Northwestern and UT right now. At UT I would apply for the Business Honors Program. If i went to Northwestern, I would try to get into MMSS and do the Kellogg Certificat in Financial Economics. Both of these programs, assuming I got in, would offer more personal career advising, etc. So, I wanted to know how the recruiting is at Northwestern compared to UT. UT has a good network in Texas, but that's not where I want to stay. I don't know how NW recruiting is - if it's more regional or is a target for big companies on the East/West coast. Ultimately, I'd like to end up doing VC in San Francisco and I want to know which school will position be better to accomplish that.

Thanks in advance for the replies!

 

All three place well in finance. Personally I would choose either UT or UVA. Reasons being that they place just as well or even better than Northwestern and they have better sports/girls/party scene.

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Congrats on the acceptances. Personally, I would take UVA because its good school for finance and on top of that the social scene from what i've read/heard is great. UT is gonna be good for Texas, but not so much the rest of the country. I've heard conflicting messages for NW but its definetly a target for Chicago and prolly a semi-target for NY. I have heard that MMSS program is mad competitive though. Overall, I'd say its NW/UVA >UT uhm but if cost is an issue take UT.

Good luck.

 

dude these kids at UT and UVA wish they could go to Northwestern. UT and UVA are they even in the top 50 of US Today? it should be an easy decision bro. look at the alumni network too. in new york and chicago, ur not gonna see much longhorns or dardenians whatever they are called.

but NW is pretty well represented.

 

^doesn't know what he's talking about. UVA is the 2nd best public school in the country according to USNews, Texas is top 50.

UT places very well on Wall Street. If you want the best all around experience I would choose Texas - Austin is a great city, great arts scene (film and music especially), the parties will be incredible, you will still get a good education, and it will be way cheaper than either of the other options.

UVA probably has the best campus...Charlottesville has the best college town experience of the 3 if that's what you're looking for. It's more of an enclosed environment than the other 2 but some people like that.

NW you will have the most prestigious name and best alumni connections, so if that's all you care about go there. Evanston is pretty nice but surprisingly far from Chicago, and most of the other people there will be nerds.

So...yea. Go to Texas, keep your eyes on the prize, but still have a good time.

 

let me tell you

northwestern is by far the best school on your list (not that UVA and UT are shabby) but IB recruiting isn't lights out. I think UVA and UT have slightly better recruiting, not really sure why. If I were you, I'd take the in-state tuition and get into McCombs and then work for a Houston BB. I know Houston isn't NYC, but you if do a SA stint in Houston with say, Barclays, you could request to do FT in NYC. Furthermore, energy IB is going to be a hot sector in the near future (so they say) so you could be looking at very good deal flow and bonuses down in Houston.

 

Icebox, I hope you were referring to the guy above me when you said he doesn't know what he's talking about and not me.

If you were talking to me, then...

I said that he could get a job out of any of those schools but that NU is the best school (academically). That's a fucking fact. It doesn't matter that UVA is a good PUBLIC school. It doesn't mean it comes anywhere near the best schools in this country (public AND private), maybe T-25.

http://www.northwestern.edu/newscenter/stories/2009/05/froshadmissions…

http://www.virginia.edu/Facts/Glance_Admission.html

OP, just choose whatever place you'll be happiest at. You can get a job from any of them.

 
sick_willy:
Icebox, I hope you were referring to the guy above me when you said he doesn't know what he's talking about and not me.

If you were talking to me, then...

I said that he could get a job out of any of those schools but that NU is the best school (academically). That's a fucking fact. It doesn't matter that UVA is a good PUBLIC school. It doesn't mean it comes anywhere near the best schools in this country (public AND private), maybe T-25.

http://www.northwestern.edu/newscenter/stories/2009/05/froshadmissions…

http://www.virginia.edu/Facts/Glance_Admission.html

OP, just choose whatever place you'll be happiest at. You can get a job from any of them.

who cares that its public.

I'd be willing to wager that the kids from UVA are smarter and more practical than the bobos who go to Cornell or Brown.

 

I transferred out of NU and still I'd say it's the easy winner. Also, you're likely 17-18 years old, if you change your mind, NU is going to offer by far the most options, and even if you don't, it's still the best school with what I would assume is a "tighter" alumni network given it's small size. NU is great for Chicago (I would assume NU is better for Chicago than Texas is for Houston correcting for their respective class sizes). Tons of kids from the Bay Area that will offer networking opportunities through their parents and eventually through themselves later in life at NU. Easy choice. Less fun, but a WAY better education. PM me if you have any questions.

 

i doubt the kids at UVA are smarter than Cornell and Brown. I went to Wharton and when we interviewed, you can definitely tell who's from the state school and who's not. I'm talking about the average as a whole.

Other than that, its true in general people at the top schools work harder.

 
PA:
i doubt the kids at UVA are smarter than Cornell and Brown. I went to Wharton and when we interviewed, you can definitely tell who's from the state school and who's not. I'm talking about the average as a whole.

Other than that, its true in general people at the top schools work harder.

UVA, UM - Ann Arbor, etc are some of the best "state schools" in the country. I really don't think the ability to memorize and parrot back answers in an interview is a correct gauge of underlying intelligence.

 
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PA:
i doubt the kids at UVA are smarter than Cornell and Brown. I went to Wharton and when we interviewed, you can definitely tell who's from the state school and who's not. I'm talking about the average as a whole.

Other than that, its true in general people at the top schools work harder.

UVA, UM - Ann Arbor, etc are some of the best "state schools" in the country. I really don't think the ability to memorize and parrot back answers in an interview is a correct gauge of underlying intelligence.

So you could tell who went to a state school, like because they spoke in sentence fragments and wore van heusen shirt/tie combos and rocked sean paul cologne? or because they were significantly less of a total ass and actually seemed grounded in reality?

as for cornell and brown kids, some of the biggest tosspots I've ever known attended those schools. They were tumbling tumbling dickweeds.

at the private university i attend/attended, most kids: 1) thought they were smart but in reality got in b/c their parents forced them to obsessively study for the ACT and join every single high school club on the face of the earth 2)came from sheltered backgrounds and had no idea how the world really is 3)only knew how to solve problems by piling on theory after theory, resulting in over-analyzed trash heaps of insignificant data 4)were for the large part rather socially awkward and peculiar

I'd rather work with a kid from a top-notch public institution any day, especially one who attended an undergrad business program, took finance courses rather than english lit courses, and knows how to calculate EBITDA.

 

in my BB SA IBD class, there are 6 UVA and no NW. take that for what you want.

went to 5 superdays, never saw a single NW person. not one.

you might get a great education at NW, but if you want recruiting i would go to UVA.

it's not like what you learn in school really matters in the real world...

 

So to the OP, I actually got into both UVA and NW, along with a bunch of Ivies, visited NW, was told all the bs on this board about how its so much of a better school, but then went with my gut and chose UVA....best decision of my life.

To all these guys who keep telling you its so much better of an education - its not. Virginia has great resources, great faculty, and the McIntire school, not Darden, where I went, is tops in the nation. Really cant go wrong with that education. Oh yea - and every BB firm and boutique recruits heavily there and thats a fact. So thats that.

Im on the street now and have not run into a single NW grad or UT grad. Yea i know you could save alot of money going to UT - but a UVA degree is for life and also its not that expensive (on par with UNC out of state, alot less than, say Umich). In my analyst class it is mostly UVA and Penn and some Ivies. Not surprising because McIntire is a great place for business.

Oh yea - and the girls, town, parties - all that is amazing. You will not regret the choice, but you will regret sitting in your dorm room on a friday night in chicago in the winter, realizing all the girls are busted and the few who aren't won't be showing any skin until at least May. God bless southern girls in the Spring.

 

To everyone here and the OP, please tell me how he is going to get to VC in SF by going to UVA or UT? Northwestern has such a stronger alumni base for that.

those NU kids don't go to IBD probably, and IBD is not the path to VC. It's getting operational experience. IBD to VC is very hard, it's possible, but it's definitely alot harder.

If the OP wanted to join a startup/tech company, then doing VC in SF might be feasible. And I strongly believe NU is the place you should go.

 

I think the better question is why do undergrads think they are qualified to do VC in the first place. The reason why everyone wants to do IB is because of the wide variety of skills your will learn and the ability to do a variety of things once quit. Typically the path is towards a top MBA and then something else. I really don't think a 22 year old has the experience to add value at a VC firm at all.

 

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