Vaccine Mandates: As American as George Washington

For the anti-vax "patriots" with punisher t-shirts who worship 1776 and the constitution, it's time for a history lesson.

There was a smallpox epidemic in Colonial America that was much deadlier than the British Army, and at one point, 90% of deaths in Washington's Army were from smallpox.  To make things worse, the British Army was much more resistant to smallpox because there were recent epidemics in Britain.  So Washington did the unthinkable, he made every single soldier get a crude inoculation for smallpox which had a fatality rate of over 5%.  In the end, his army avoided a disease outbreak while it wiped out the Africans and Natives who were allied with the British.

https://www.history.com/news/smallpox-george-wash…

https://www.loc.gov/rr/scitech/GW&smallpoxinocula…

I think if modern "patriots" were in the continental army, we'd still have a king!  What pussies!

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  • Intern in IB-M&A
Sep 7, 2021 - 4:07pm
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90% of deaths in Washington's Army were from smallpox

Thanks god, 0% of deaths in the US army are from Covid. So basically I'm not taking the vaccine.

Now Drumpfy, it's time for your daily monkey shit bath!

Sep 7, 2021 - 4:16pm

650,000 Americans died of COVID.  That's nearly as much as the entire Detroit metro.  And ever since the vaccine came out, pretty much every single one has been completely preventable.

Also, people who survive COVID suffer from a host of long term side effects ranging from heart disease to erectile dysfunction, fatigue, depression, and cognitive impairment/brain fog

https://time.com/6093164/long-covid-19-largest-study/

  • Intern in IB-M&A
Sep 7, 2021 - 4:21pm

I didn't get vaxxed. Had Covid and stayed home. I'm better after just a slight headache and breathlessness, now I'm back to lifting in the gym better than ever.

Now compare that to the overwhelming amount of people on Reddit/Twitter who got the shot and now have heart palpitations. Lol lmao lol

Sep 7, 2021 - 7:22pm

You keep saying that number like it means something. The average age of death was over the average age of death for the US as a whole. Every person who dies is an unfortunate loss. The death of someone in their 70s/80s with multiple comorbidities in a country with a population of more than 300 million is statistically insignificant by every reasonable metric you can measure. But keep crying as though it's somehow of significance, god knows you will. 

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  • Analyst 1 in S&T - Equities
Sep 7, 2021 - 4:20pm

Drumpfy you are the biggest patriot and totally not a pussy...I'm on board with Vaxx 3 and 4 as well. I have my sleeve rolled up 24/7 just waiting for the moment.

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Sep 7, 2021 - 4:20pm

You don't get it. The Covid-19 vaccine mandate isn't a broad ideological question; it is a prudential question. There is overwhelming support for vaccine mandates with regard to very deadly and/or physically ruinous diseases, such as smallpox and polio. There is less overwhelming support for a vaccine mandate for Covid-19, which is very deadly, but only particularly deadly to a very specific group of people (mainly the elderly). Vaccinating 100% of 18-year-old college students will have a negligible impact on Covid deaths and hospitalizations. Vaccinating every person under 12 in America will have essentially no impact on Covid deaths.

So, yeah, I am vaccinated and support vaccine mandates as a general principle. What I can't understand is why the Left is so adamant about vaccinating people they hate and wish death upon. Y'all hate conservative southerners and cheer on their deaths. I just can't put my finger on why you're desperate to get them vaccinated. Something doesn't add up. 

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  • Analyst 1 in S&T - Equities
Sep 7, 2021 - 4:22pm

How are you going to sit here denying science? Big pharma is one of our most trusted and virtuous sectors in the US. It is time for you to simmer down and prepare for VAXX III and VAXX IV  

Sep 7, 2021 - 4:26pm

I actually do plan to get a booster vaccine when it is available. I'm neither anti-vax broadly nor anti-Covid vax specifically. I just don't see the purpose of vaccine mandates. We know that vaccinated people are of little risk for serious complications/death, so if you choose to not get vaccinated, what is it to drumpfy and people like him? Last time I checked, people were allowed to take calculated risks with their own lives.

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Sep 7, 2021 - 4:26pm

The main reason I support COVID mandates for young people is variants.  Viruses mutate when they spread from person to person, and we've already seen COVID evolve into the much more dangerous delta variant.  What if a new variant comes that's deadlier to young people or vaccinated people?  Second of all, COVID has very bad long term effects, I know two people in my family that have long COVID and it is hellish.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavi…

Sep 7, 2021 - 4:33pm

The Delta variant was originally called the "Indian variant." It developed in India. You're saying that the U.S. should enrage 25% of the public and/or make them into second class citizens to prevent variants from arising? You're aware that the U.S. population is about 5% of the global population, right? I think it may behoove you to recognize that the universe doesn't revolve around the United States.

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Sep 7, 2021 - 4:27pm

In all seriousness Drumpfy you seem overtly fixated on Covid for some reason. Its ok to not be horrified of Covid every single second of the day.

  • Analyst 1 in S&T - Equities
Sep 7, 2021 - 4:31pm

It's because COVID is the most deadly disease in human history and Jan 6th is the worst terrorist attack on American soil, ever.

Sep 7, 2021 - 4:44pm

>he doesn't know that Washington immunizing his soldiers before pioneering biological warfare against the Indians

"Work ethic, work ethic" - Vince Vaughn

Controversial
Sep 7, 2021 - 9:24pm

Drumpfy.

Seriously?  No, I mean it.  Seriously?

I simply refuse to listen to the blind, ignorant, unscientific, bleating sheep here or in the propoganda filled media. I will simply say one word and the entire fake narrative crumbles...Israel.

This has NOTHING to do with Covid (real?  Yes.  Deadly?  Yes.  99.8% survival rate?  Yes.).  It is NOT anti-vax to refuse a barely working, experimental therapeutic jab thrust upon a docile (for the moment) American public. 

My opinion of the long term effects from the current jabs is not relevant here.

It is freaking common sense. 

This is SOLELY about control.  Control of you.  Control of free speech and censorship of differing views.  Control of your bodies and your kids.  It is pure evil.

I have said here publically that I am waiting for the Novavax jab (still not a vaccine) to be EUA because I have done my RESEARCH on it.  I will be taking it every year like my flu shot.

Why cant I get it?  (FDA / CDC scumbags).  Why all the hit pieces on HCQ and Ivermectin?  Two drugs around for 30+ years? 

You know why.  Deep down in your soul, you can see what is happening.  I pray you wake up, shake off your cognitive dissonance, see the light and realize it is not about a disease started, and paid for, by Americans.

It is about your freedom.

Namaste.

D.O.U.G.

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Sep 7, 2021 - 11:29pm

Ivermectin is a drug used for macro level parasites like tapeworms.  It does not work against COVID.  Please do not overdose on horse dewormer.

  • Analyst 1 in S&T - Equities
Sep 7, 2021 - 11:42pm

Roughly how many lives do you think you've saved since the beginning of the pandemic? You just saved another 3 or so from those on this specific chain. 

Sep 8, 2021 - 12:09am

As a disclaimer first, I am South Asian ethnically and live in South East Asia where these vaccine mandates do not apply.

I am by nature quite skeptical of government in general as I see it operate as an inefficient lumbering mass of corrupt bureaucracy in the countries that I have lived in the past and in the current country, while its extremely efficient, it tends to act as a nanny state which I abhor.

However, over the past few months, as one poster noted, The Delta variant which took root in India earlier this year, has taken lives of many folks I know of, someone's parents, relatives, family friends and even acquaintances as young as their early 30's. The common theme amongst all of these folks was that they were unvaccinated. The people who got Covid and recovered still complain of breathlessness and fatigue many months post their recovery and I suspect their quality of life might be impacted as they get older. One thing I can say is that no one that I or my family or friends know of, has actually died out of Covid if they have gotten even one shot of vaccination, so in that sense vaccination certainly seems to be saving lives of people across all age groups.

Many people in South Asia were patting themselves on the back last year with claims of "higher immunity" when the strain of virus that was circulating was relatively mild and did not affect many people adversely and hence vaccination wasn't taken very seriously at its inception. I can assure you that after seeing the healthcare systems break down completely and horror stories of corpses piling up without anyone to claim them or give them the appropriate death rites, people have reversed their stance and thinking (myself included) and are getting their vaccine shots which is literally saving lives.

Not sure why Americans seem to be so resistant to this idea? Maybe they should evaluate each decision of the government on a standalone basis rather than have a lumpen disregard for all of its policies? Also the culture seems to promote a selfish individualistic worldview as opposed to the one that prevails in developing countries where folks are more primed to take action keeping social well being alongside their own personal needs so that even if it mean getting themselves vaccinated, it might help save the life of a stranger they encounter on a subway/ mall by not passing them a Covid strain involuntarily and who might be having a critical condition,

Sep 8, 2021 - 12:15am

The U.S. has a vaccination rate of 75% (exactly) of persons over the age of 18--it's not like we don't take this seriously. Vaccination, along with natural immunity from previous infections, and we are well in excess of 80% of the population that is innoculated against Covid, yet Covid persists and is running rampant. 

Maybe--and I'm just throwing this out there--maybe we aren't in control of Covid from a public policy perspective. Maybe each individual should make his or her own calculated risk assessment with the vaccine and masks and social distancing and then society moves on. 

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