Valuation for Holding Companies?

What valuation models can I use to value holding companies
because the company I am researching
has 4 subsidiaries listed on the stock exchange, and 2 that are not listed in the stock exchange

Should I value each company one by one? or should I just value the holding company as a whole

 

The answer partially depends on what you're trying to acheive with the valuation, but personally, I'd sum of the parts the holding company. It'll probably be a ton more work, but then you can have a serious talk about the A&D opportunities for each of the pieces, and you can analyze the stronger and weaker contributors to the overall company.

 

@overpaid_overworked, thanks I'm trying to derive an intrinsic price for the holding company, If I am going to value each of the parts then I can handle the companies that are publicly listed, but what about the non-listed parts of the holding companies, one is a bank and the other is a mining company what valuation models can I use for the two?

 

@ddp34, what proxies should I use? one subsidiary is a bank that is not public, I actually have no access to its financial statements but I only get to know they disclose namely net income and total assets, as well as ROE, but how can I assign a proxy for it? it is only a small private bank @gpmagnus, thanks, I will take that into account when forecasting the consolidated financial statement of the holding company

 
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Okay, not sure, but perhaps you can use , P/BV = (ROE -g)/(r-g), since you have ROE, and you need to look at P/BV multiple (since you're dealing with a bank). For the discount rate, use comps (safe discount rate in the market for small private banks). If you cannot get the growth rate at all, use comps again, but I would think you would want your estimates to be on the lower end, or conservative in nature, since a small private bank can only grow THAT much -- might be wrong though, but figure out a way to get a reasonable growth rate.

Also, if you have total assets, that should be a huge metric since banks measure their value by total assets (loans). And BV is just TA- all intangible assets less liabilities. So, maybe another multiple may be a multiple of total assets?

I'm sure there are many bank gurus on this site that can help. Let me know if any of that makes sense. You can PM me as well. Thanks.

 

^yes thanks I'm done with the bank but now my problem is the other private company is a petrochemical company, the only given info is their Sales and EBITDA that's it I'm thinking to find a similar public petrochem company domestic or foreign then get its Price-to-Sales ratio then multiply it to the private company's sales to estimate the private firm's value its like: P/S Ratio of Similar firm X Sales of private firm = Private firm's value Is this alright? or what valuation methods should I use with only the given data

 

If you use comps, and use P/S (given the sales are somewhat similar) and multiply that to the Sales of the firm, that will give you the "Price" or equity value, not enterprise value; which I assume is what you want, correct? The firm's value = enterprise value. For EV, you would want a EV/EBITDA comp. I may be able to help more, if I had more info, PM me.

 

^thank you for the help, I'm pretty much done with the valuation just one last quick Q though, In a justified P/B = (RoE - g)/(k - g) I am just wondering if the RoE here is the current RoE, forecasted RoE for next year, or the long-run RoE?

 

Do your research on the investment company and build that DCF (or use your other valuation metrics) and assign 30% of the valuation to the holding company. What is the parent doing with the cash they raise? You'd need to then do a similar approach to the holding company for the cash they raise. Sum the values. Take into account IPO fees, etc.

 

I think private equity companies usually have the intention of flipping a company within 2 or 3 years and will usually try and delist it if it's public.

Holding companies generally have a longer term outlook.

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