Virginia Tech for Ibanking
So any comments on that. Is there any sort of recruitment from virginia tech w.r.t Ibanks (or even PE/HF etc) or is it a total non-target?
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Wachovia, SunTrust, BB&T are about it. Some other really small firms, too.
As a follow up, I'm not sure VT and banking should go in the same sentence.
is this a serious question? the only thing a VaTech grad is usefull for is pumping my gas.. not even joking
and before anyone points it out trying to be a prick, i accidentally hit the L twice in useful... it's 4:15 and i should be drunk or asleep
thanks...
I was just making a list of possible universities to apply as a transfer...so just picking ones that are good for ibanking and give some scholarships to internationals, if anyone was curious...
Any school - not in the deep south - that wears ties/dresses to football games must be a joke.
The Ties/Dresses to football games is UVA. Tech doesn't quite have that class.
And transfer to Tech? for banking? where are you starting in the first place?
Yea, I was referring to UVA. I go to VT.
good job making fun of uva considering it places a ton of kids on wall street every year...
but dont worry, im sure the exit ops out of farming will help you get into a top p/e shop
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metaljack, you shouldn't hate on a school just because we have class and intelligence far superior to anything you or your classmates could ever display... not to mention the fact that your bschool is a joke...
as much as I'd like to shit on you for going to tech, I'll take the high road and give you some advice:
It is possible to transfer diretly into McIntire, even from community college (although these kids aren't worth their weight in dirt.) I know of several. But don't bother transferring into the College of Arts and Crafts.
Agreed. It's not a difficult school to get into if your in-state. I got in from out-of-state, saw all the faggots who go there (see uva07 above), and chose VT. And I don't regret it.
On the real, anyone coming in here talking shit about his school and saying "I go to a better school, idiot" is a fuckin' douchebag. End of discussion...it isn't the fault of the threadstarter that your penis is small, and you don't need to yell at people because it won't help you.
He came looking for help, let's be helpful, not brag...fuckin douchebags.
you could possibly work at one of the aforementioned banks - Wachovia, SunTrust, etc. and try to lateral after 1 year...that or network your ass off since i dont believe vtech is a target - if your transferring, go to UVA...
uva isn't that hard to get in if you are in-state
(which applies same to UCB)
all the faggots (as you call us) who go here are more or less the same type of people you will see on the street. sorry to burst your bubble. if you don't like and/or don't get along with the people at UVA, you will have the same distaste for a good majority of the people you will potentially (if you are a superstar, that is) work with.
i also find it very hard to believe that someone from out of state would apply to both UVA and VT. if you are from out of state and choose not to go to UVA because you don't like the people, you can't help but assume a logical thinking person would go to a school of similar caliber where they actually like the students.
BUT if you do get into IB, props to you cuz i know the odds are against you
Don't want to drag this nitpicking out but VT is in my blood. Have two older brothers who went here so it was an easy choice.
I heard that since Rabbi Greenberg is doing such a good job with the basketball team this year, the i-banks have assured Va Tech a few sport on Wall St. as a reward.
. . . . that doesn't bode too well for Duke's aspiring i-bankers
That's fantastic that Virginia Tech is in your blood, MetalJack. But you're not going to get far with i-banking because VT will be on your resume for life, no matter where you get an MBA (and it ain't gonna help when you apply to those b-schools, either).
VT and Michigan State seem to have a lot in common. Everyone at those schools has a story about how they could have gone to UMich or UVA "if they wanted to" but they chose to go to the land-grant school with far less stringent academic standards.
And yet here they are, wanting to get into an industry dominated by Michigan and UVA grads (probably over 50% of the public grads between them). Either they are lying about getting into UMich and UVA, they didn't always want to be i-bankers, or they were just ill-informed and made a horrible choice that will be extremely hard to recover from without transferring.
To the thread originator, transfer to UVA if you want to do i-banking. If you don't, not as big a deal. But the tuition is comparable at each, both being Va. publics, so go to the better school. It's not like there is a discount for getting the less valuable degree. No person interested in ROI would choose VT, and in this particular industry the networking opportunities of a school with better Street representation can be a huge advantage.
Once you get an MBA it doesn't matter where you went for your undergrad. If MetalJack manages to get into HBS, no one is going to tell him to go screw himself because he made the choice to go to VT when he was 18.
There are also a ton of people (I would imagine the majority) that get into top 10 b-schools who went to a non-target for their undergraduate degree. Keep in mind that these top b-schools like to round out their classes with a mix of everyone, not just bankers with a pedigree. Going to a non-target is not a life sentence.
Of course they won't tell him that. Doesn't mean they will hire him! Even after HBS, it will be far more difficult for him than his classmates to get into i-banking without experience as an analyst first. And he won't be able to get experience as an analyst straight out of VT, unless he gets extremely lucky... but it has happened before and maybe he will be the next one to hit the jackpot.
All non-targets are not created equal, and VT is not one of the better non-targets. So going to a non-target is not a life sentence when it's William & Mary. Going to a non-target inches closer to a life sentence when it is Virginia Tech. It becomes a life sentence completely when it is Radford.
First off let me apologies for uva07 he is one of those picks that I had to deal with at UVA. One of the ones how has a small dick and wants every one to know about it. Tech is a good school but not for ibanking if you want to get into ibanking go through there engineering program, most big banks don’t care about your undergrad. And to Warren Buffett i went to community college and then to COMM and make more money then you will ever see. That’s because I got a triple yes a triple major in Finance, Accounting and Engineering so to just remember that diamonds come from the dirt.
Big banks don't care about YOUR undergrad in a negative way (i.e. about transferring from community college or anywhere else) because it says UVA on your degree. But they care about Virginia Tech or NC State or Michigan State, etc. if you stayed long enough to get a degree there. The first thing they might ask is why you chose the lesser of the public school options, and then chose to stay there after becoming interesting in banking. There is no right answer at that point. On YOUR resume, you did everything logical and put yourself in a good position to get into i-banking as far as college.
As for your going into Accounting instead of i-banking, that will be hard to explain but perhaps easier than if you had to explain why you went to VT instead of UVA.
The key thing is that it takes a lot more effort on the candidate's part to get interviews and make connections. You're making it sound like during an interview, someone will ask "You went to a non-target and didn't transfer?!? That's it. Thanks for coming". There are enough right answers to why someone decided to go to a non-target school with scholarships being the big one.
In all of my interviews, I did not have a single person disrespect my school, rather, they were impressed that I was able to get this far without on-campus recruiting and knew that i-banking was something I really wanted if I put this much effort into it.
MetalJack, you still have a good shot of making it into banking. I would not listen to the negativity being spewed by My NYSE. He has no idea what he is talking about if he thinks that people will look down on you for the rest of your life even if you are successful in the rest of your career. Feel free to PM me with any questions.
If 6 out of the 7 people at your school who wanted to go into banking, actually did so (which is a great success rate even from Princeton), you probably didn't go to one of the larger land-grant schools like Virginia Tech, NC State, Clemson, Michigan State, etc.
Also, I would like to see where you are getting your information from. Are you active in the recruiting process for your bank? Part of an ad-com?
Accounting was the biggest mistake EVER....
shikharsaxena, go to VA Tech start off at a small bank in richmond and work your way up. I grew up in richmond and its a great place(Henrico,in the West End). Your not going to make what the big boys make in NY but the cosh of living is much less.
The small i-banks in Richmond that I've heard of only target UVA and the University of Richmond. But just like the Street, I'm sure they hire some non-targets here and there.
Here is an example recruiting calendar. It consists of UVA and... well, just UVA. They don't seem to venture down to Blacksburg, but I'm sure Hokies are welcome to submit their applications electronically.
http://www.harriswilliams.com/careers/an_cal.php
Damn, for someone trying to simp girls on the internet, you sure have a lot of hate. Fall back, buddy. It's just the internet.
Again, not all non-target schools are created equal. But it's true, Virginia Tech, NC State, Clemson, etc. grads are probably destined for 40 years of hard labor on a wage roll without benefits. Or the supermarket, as you point out, or increasingly in the new economy, Wal-Mart.
My NYSE, where did you go to school
First of all Mis Ind isn't a "girl". She's a middle-aged MILF, according to someone who is stalking her from this board (not me). And I'm not going to go check my inner-city dictionary for "simp" so just go back to your Ludacris and leave the i-banking to the more intelligent folk.
Recruiting calendars are full of "hate"? You are welcome to your opinion. Maybe you just quoted the wrong thing again, not knowing any better. Here I am just trying to give facts about the reality of the situation for VT grads (Wal-Mart, tractors, etc. - you should have quoted that if you wanted to make a good point) and you just get all mad about it. I can't win!
Sheesh. This is what I get for being genuinely helpful. This is the last time I help those less fortunate than the rest of us (hokies and the mentally ill) because I only get grief for not helping in a nicer way.
You are a fucking herb.
Great comeback, Einstein. Soon you'll be the boss of us all!
Dude, I have a job and start in July.
I see no reason to come in here and bash someone because of what school they go to. That is some seriously insecure shit. And did you really just call me "Einstein?" Got damn, you are a herb.
Got damn? English, please. Too much to ask for some attention to detail from an aspiring analyst? Or maybe that's the new "got milk?" Maybe you're a trendsetter. OH, but you have a JOB???? You are truly set apart from everyone else around here. I guess you really ARE The King. I take it all back, dude.
GOT DAMN? Haha. Nice one.
Commenting on one's grammar on a message board is what a herb would do. Go play some World of Warcraft. I mean, it's Thursday, the weekend is here, I'm sure you'll be hitting the computer games hard. Fuckin' nerd.
My NYSE, You haven't really helped him on this board. I am pretty sure (read: know) that going to a non-target school is not a life-sentence for farm labor, and frankly, to say so is idiotic. This kid wants to make it, and that's honorable if nothing else.
to the kid from VT -- find alums who might have gone far (even CEOs) and email them, find out what they did, etc. Email banks, pound the pavement, work the system to your advantage. Don't listen to someone like My NYSE, he clearly isn't worth your time. The big banks in NYC are toning down their recruiting from target-schools (and beefing up from places similar to VT) because talent can be found in previously un-targeted areas.
My NYSE you are a herb. Got damn.
Not to interject, but, what kind of guy goes to a private schooland wants to be a banker but listens to rap music and hates nerds? Just a tip, don't throw around rap terms and try to look cool. It's not cool, it looks incredibly gay.
Also, everyone knows that Virginia Tech isn't a great school but putting it down so much just makes you look like a big prick.
Haha, a lot actually. And I'm not sure what "rap" terms I'm throwing around. A herb is a herb, and a nerd is a nerd. Nor am I trying to look cool, I just think it's incredibly rude to insult someone for the school they go to or the job they take.
Only a fool judges a man by the size of his wallet or the name of his alma mater.
Look he can still be an ibanker just not at a big bank, thats all that needed to be said.
"Herb" is mainly used by the hip-hop crowd down where I come from. Are you from upstate New York? If not, are you one of those Asian guys who wants to be Black? Hehe, just kidding. :)
Agreed on the rest of it, too. But there's a lot of hate between UVA and VT people in that state. Farmers vs. lawyers and all that goes with those old stereotypes.
And Va tech is a good school just not for business
my brother goes to tech and loves. he is at the buiness school and he has said that there are more and more bankes coming to the school. And with Tech being such a big school there are a lot of alumni
The big banks don't go to VA Tech. There are a lot of alumni but being non-target there ain't many at the banks. He's in the same sit as other non-targets though just have to work harder to get there. Still possible especially at the MMs.
Virginia Tech has a good Engineering Program and a lot of the grads go to top Technology Firms like - Microsoft, Google, IBM, Cisco, Intel, AMD, etc or leading industrial firms like GE, Honeywell, Caterpillar, Ingersoll Rand, Cummins, etc
So my suggestion to the engineers would be to work at a leading Tech/ Industrial Firm...apply to a top 10 B School and then be a "career-changer" into i-banking. There are a ton of career changers at B-schools ...who get a summer internship at an I-Bank and then transition into I-Banking full-time.
Also if you work at a couple of Tech firms prior to B-School...you can always indicate that you have developed good industry knowledge and would like to take up I-banking for that sector...like Tech or Industrials, etc
Thats not always true it depends on if the kid has any family ties (which i dont think he has)and im not talking teir I banks im talking teir II(middle market)go to Tech. And yes by not going to a targert school he has made this much harder on himself
I think you just gotta try a bit harder if you go to tech. Follow the market, network like crazy, be that hardworker who works 30 hours a week yet maintains a 3.8 GPA.
No, I don't hate you.
University of Virginia Class of 2009
^^ Damn 2 pages of discussion...and I dont even go to tech...
From what i have heard, It's difficult but it wasn't impossible. You have to get into SEED or BASIS, the two student run investment organizations that each manages 5m schools endowment first. ( I believe UVA doesn't have this advantages. That should be the answer for why you did not transfer from VT to UVA) From that, you can network with alumni from GS, CS, MS, BoA, and Citi. Each year, there are about 10 kids who get selected and start their career as analyst in wallstreet. Again, networking in the key not matter you choose to go to VT or UVA.
Any Virginia Tech people here? (Originally Posted: 04/16/2007)
I'm not but I know a few that go there. A sad day.
My heart goes out to anyone there or anyone that knows anyone affected.
Horrible tragedy..
Same here, I don't know anybody who goes there but my thoughts are with those affected by the shootings.
Another reason for the Government to relax gun laws.
Awesome, stop dickweed's already politicizing this.
I'm assuming Seans comment was sarcastic but yeah, we need to reverse the second amendment. The right to own guns is stupidest shit in the world. Most human beings have the capacity to use guns responsibly, but there are too many out there that can't. You can't own a gun in the UK and guess what, almost no gun violence. Cops don't even carry guns there.
They need banned.
Go check the home office report. Link below. Page 54.
Homicides in the UK have actually gone up since gun control was introduced.
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs06/hosb0206.pdf
There are so many reasons why Gun Control is flawed it's ridiculous. Murder rates are going up. Ok, maybe they use knives now. Or maybe, since they are criminals they don't mind breaking the law.
The point is, it's very simple to say Gun Control and superficially it seems like a good idea, but when you think about it and LOOK AT YOUR BELOVED UK, you will see that stats don't support gun control.
The same is true in Canada and Australia. Have fun.
That would probably work better if all the criminals in the US didn't already have an enviable cache of weapons at their disposal.
theres a difference between criminals and your everyday kid with psychotic problems
If we had a armed populace then no punk would even try this shit.
Criminals and psychos are gonna obtain arms no matter what kind of regulations we implement. But an armed populace would act as a strong deterrent to these types.
I am class of '03. I checked and all my friends are ok. Thanks for the kind words
dont give me murder rates. anyone can murder anyone in a number ways other than guns. but if guns were illegal, the chances of this kid getting a gun and then mass murdering students. would go down significantly.
Murder and violent crime will always occur. but for god sakes, why does this type of mass murder seem to only happen in the U.S.? Its because these messed up kids can go buy a gun at wal-mart.
by the way, I'm American. not some British nationalist
I go to VT and I have to totally agree with Seanc. If someone wants a gun they will get it. If they want to kill, they will do it. The more RESPONSIBLE people with guns are the absolute best deterrent.
well you have too much faith in mankind then. I, however, don't. there's some crazy people out there. obviously this shooter didnt care about responsibility. and theres more people like him out there.
if you really think everyone having a gun is a solution, i cant fathom why you are even playing the "people need to be more responsible" card. because obviously you are implying that none of us are responsible since we all need guns to protect us from each other.
guns arent like drugs. you cant grow them. if you make them illegal and force gun manufacturers to shut down, the spread of guns would dimish in this country greatly. yeah there will still be a black market and guns will be imported illegally from other countries, but getting a gun will no longer be like picking up a gram of weed from your next door neighbor.
or you can have laws like Singapore.
They give out mandatory death sentences for illegal weapon posession which is carried within months of your arrest, and they surely don't have that many murders either. Of course, criminals are gonna obtain arms no matter what, but death for posession is surely a great deterrent.
Take the example of Israel and Switzerland. Most citizens there are armed and trained. Those countries have among the lowest murder rates in the entire World.
Implement gun control laws and watch how the Mexican border becomes a bazaar for illegal gun trade.
You really think anything would have deterred this kid or the Columbine kids from carrying out their mass murder fantasies ? The only thing that would have stopped him is a bullet from an armed citizen.
One hundred percent with Seanc. The next two weeks all we're going to be hearing from liberals is how we need to increase gun control in order to prevent another situation like this. Of course, none of these arguments will be well-thought out or rational in any way. IronBanker's statement "don't give me murder rates" is typical of what we're going to have to listen to. Why must you guys deny basic statistics in favor of some emotional plea for gun control? If Hillary of Obama wins in 2008 this country is going down the shitter....
"If Hillary of Obama wins in 2008 this country is going down the shitter...."
anyone could do a better job on all fronts than the current Republican clown
all you rural hick redneck rightwing retards that voted him in, twice nonetheless, owe the rest of us (and the world) an apology for the current mess we're in
At least 33 families today lost their son/daughter. Bitch later about gun laws either pro or against, not now.
Bush cut taxes. That's a job well done.
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