What car should I buy?

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OK, so according to my parents I "still have my communion money" (I do, minus what I lost on Global Crossing) My GF recently blew up the tranny on my old Jeep. That means I need a new car. Prestige is a non-factor (thank you Manhattan) I Take the train to work, what should I buy for occasional use in the suburbs of NJ?

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May 13, 2018

Just a FYI, since I can't edit the OP. I prefer cheaper, but am open to anything under six figures (under 5 preferred because I'm a cheap bastard)

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May 13, 2018
Whatever1984:

Just a FYI, since I can't edit the OP. I prefer cheaper, but am open to anything under six figures (under 5 preferred because I'm a cheap bastard)

so 90K is cool, but you'd prefer 9K? lol

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May 16, 2018
Whatever1984:

My GF recently blew up the tranny on my old Jeep.

And this is why you never let your woman drive your car. The fact that she is not a former GF shows a sheer lack of logic.

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May 13, 2018

VW Jetta

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May 13, 2018

Your GF blew a tranny?!

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May 13, 2018
WolfofWSO:

Your GF blew a tranny?!

Yeah, but it was a Jeep Tranny, so he/she was super butch. :-)

As to where and price, No, In a lot in Jersey. I work in Lower Manhattan but live right on the PATH Train in Jersey. (the commute is quicker than it would be from half of Manhattan, the rent is cheaper, and I have a parking space) Realistically, I'd feel bad going much over $60k given how little use it would get. I saw a nice little 12 year old boxter that I'd consider. It doesn't need to be reliable since it's primarily for running errands and road trips.

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May 13, 2018
Whatever1984:
WolfofWSO:

Your GF blew a tranny?!

Yeah, but it was a Jeep Tranny, so he/she was super butch. :-)

As to where and price, No, In a lot in Jersey. I work in Lower Manhattan but live right on the PATH Train in Jersey. (the commute is quicker than it would be from half of Manhattan, the rent is cheaper, and I have a parking space) Realistically, I'd feel bad going much over $60k given how little use it would get. I saw a nice little 12 year old boxter that I'd consider. It doesn't need to be reliable since it's primarily for running errands and road trips.

A boxster wouldn't be the best for road trips. They are small cars.

For that price range, a BMW 440i would be much bigger and is also 0 - 60 in 4.4 seconds. I kind of like the size of the 4 series cars, my friend has a hardtop convertible 4 series - I've ridden around in it with her and driven it a few times.

https://www.caranddriver.com/bmw/4-series

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May 14, 2018

I agree on the Boxster. There's an old saying, "the only reason a guy buys a Boxster is because he can't afford a 911."

With your budget you can definitely get something nicer. The 4 Series look great.

May 18, 2018

Boxster's (S model) are great cars!! I have a 335i (similar to the 440i) and like it. I would say a CPO M3/4 if you can swing it.

May 21, 2018

Boxsters are mid engine. They are fantastic cars. The true measure of a Porsche is not whether it is a Boxster or a 911, but rather if it has a manual transmission or not. A base, stripped Boxster with a stick shift is more engaging (IMHO) than most of the PDK cars.

It's not all about buying the most expensive car you can afford - I could buy an M6 convertible if I were so inclined but I have a 135i vert because it fits my requirments....

May 21, 2018

I feel like the Boxster gets a bad wrap by people that have never driven one down a mountain road. I have actually enjoyed the majority of PDK/DCT/etc cars I have driven, so I don't know if I agree with you on that.

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May 23, 2018

Have a 440i. Fantastic car, would recommend (though if you're looking in that space the Audi S5 and the Kia Stinger are the primary competitors so look at those too).

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May 13, 2018

Any specific segment you'd prefer? Sedan, CUV, SUV, Truck?

May 13, 2018

Are you parking in Manhattan? Then you want a Honda Fit - biggest of the small cars. It would still cost you a fortune to park, albeit a smaller one

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May 13, 2018

Three year old Civic or Corolla

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May 13, 2018

If you're not going to drive it too much, maybe just like a cheaper Toyota? Not the showiest cars on the plant, but they're fairly reliable, and if you don't drive it all that much, it will last forever.

May 13, 2018

This is like a reverse interview question. Or some sick sort of icebreaker game, where instead of getting to know each other, we sit around and try to guess who you are, while you play kingmaker. Did you at least make MD, yet?

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May 14, 2018
Whatever1984:

My GF recently blew up the tranny on my old Jeep.

what you and your GF do in your private time should be kept private

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May 14, 2018

What are your priorities in terms of driving habits? Okay with buying out of warranty?

I do my own maintenance so I have been watching Lotus Evora and BMW M6 prices closely, they seem to have bottomed out in terms of depreciation.

I'll probably end up with an earlier gen Boxster S because I like to go to the track and not worry if it gets a few beauty marks.

For $10,000 you can get an Abarth 500 and have enough extra room for an actual tranny to ride shotgun with you and your GF. Maybe you can take the savings and put it all on TVIX or some other responsible endeavor.

May 14, 2018
FinanceBrah:

What are your priorities in terms of driving habits? Okay with buying out of warranty?

I do my own maintenance so I have been watching Lotus Evora and BMW M6 prices closely, they seem to have bottomed out in terms of depreciation.

I'll probably end up with an earlier gen Boxster S because I like to go to the track and not worry if it gets a few beauty marks.

For $10,000 you can get an Abarth 500 and have enough extra room for an actual tranny to ride shotgun with you and your GF. Maybe you can take the savings and put it all on TVIX or some other responsible endeavor.

I had a older Miata for years, and did a 500 mile road trip in it, and it wasn't bad. (along with several timing belts and other work) With enough work you can pile enough girls to take home for a for a threesome in it, but forget foursomes. Also, are you sure TVIX is a reasonable investment? I'm pitching my boss on a triple leveraged inverse VIX ETF, that might be more "reasonable" I like the ticker OSHIT.

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May 14, 2018

Ford Raptor. You can haul some ass and a bunch of stuff/people. Plus, it's a little less boring than typical and you'll dominate in snow.

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May 17, 2018

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May 14, 2018

Volkswagen Atlas

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May 14, 2018

you should indicate what your budget is

May 14, 2018

I could pay cash up to around $60k easily, I've got family with large SUVs locally, and have survived with a Miata as an only car before. My problem is I don't want to pay $100/mo to park a $2k boring civic, and I'd rather something interesting. Also having nothing is kind of a pain, as I'm not 'quite' in the city. (although those Huge Trader Joe's runs on the subway used to be brutal)

That being said, I will get no prestige from it, as it will never see work, and the fact that I am the glue that keeps the funds together is already well known. A 7 Series for prestige's sake is pointless to me.

May 15, 2018
Whatever1984:

I've got family with large SUVs locally, and have survived with a Miata as an only car before.

You willingly chose to possess a Miata?

This changes things.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

May 15, 2018
Isaiah_53_5:
Whatever1984:

I've got family with large SUVs locally, and have survived with a Miata as an only car before.

You willingly chose to possess a Miata?

This changes things.

It's the most raced car in North America, and with no nothing (not even ABS) support-wise and rear wheel drive it was a much more visceral experience than most. I'd encourage anyone who disagrees to look up same-year Boxter vs Miata selling prices. Pre-2006 Miatas are selling for more, despite costing 40% as much when new.

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May 14, 2018

Audi A4, fun drive, reliable, can get one loaded for under $50k. Obviously S4 is even better but you'd probably break the $60k mark if you buy new. My brother has an S7 and it's a badass car (also > $100k).

May 15, 2018

VW GTI

May 15, 2018

GMC Sierra Denali. Power through snow but in luxury

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May 16, 2018

Jaguar F-Pace. $40K out the door, or $60K with every box checked. Affordability, luxury and sporty all packed into a crossover.

May 16, 2018

Volkswagen GTI. Will cost you $25-$27K, by far the best daily driver within $20k of that price range and has plenty of storage space for Costco runs being a hatch. Try one out.

May 16, 2018

Jaguar E-Pace. Best value for money

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May 18, 2018
Real Marcus Halberstram:

Jaguar E-Pace. Best value for money

Wow! That's awesome! Nice ride with that car. So love it!

May 18, 2018

I had my mom get a F Pace for this exact reason. Fun car especially in sport, and 25k miles with no issues but frankly comparing it to a Macan the build quality just isn't there. She liked her old 2013 BMW X5 better cuz it felt more "solid". The value proposition still made it worth it, but it really comes down to only 10-15k more for a Macan.

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May 18, 2018

Indeed, from F-Pace and Macan I would pick Macan hands down. Range Rover Velar is beautiful as well. Anyway, E-Pace goes with Evoque and other crossover, is not a pure suv.. and price starts from 39k dollars

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May 16, 2018

Tesla?

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May 16, 2018

Audi Q5 - if you can up the budget for the SQ5 even more so.

Under the radar but still decent, and has AWD / any other tech you could want.

...

May 16, 2018
Whatever1984:

My GF recently blew up the tranny on my old Jeep.

No shit. Granny shiftin' not double clutchin' like she should. You're lucky that hundred shot of NOS didn't blow the welds on the intake!

Now, me and the mad scientist got to rip apart the block... and replace the piston rings you fried.

Ask any racer. Any real racer. It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning.

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May 16, 2018

I almost had you

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May 17, 2018

You almost had me? You never had me - you never had your car.

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May 21, 2018

You mean she didn't pay attention to the "Warning, danger to manifold" idiot alert?

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May 16, 2018

Volvo hands down. You cannot go wrong with any model.

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Jun 5, 2018

Yep +1 big time. Safest cars on the road

heister:

Look at all these wannabe richies hating on an expensive salad.

May 16, 2018

What about an Acura? The new models are pretty good looking.

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May 17, 2018

Alfa Romeo Giulia (Quadrifoglio is the sport version with ~500 hp).

May 17, 2018

I've seen a lot of Giulia in NYC btw

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May 21, 2018

Alfas and Maseratis look nice when new but they don't hold up.

May 17, 2018

If you are parking in Manhattan, get a Mini Cooper S.

May 17, 2018

Dodge Charger, B body. Classic, roomy, and will get all the dudes swooning over you.

Did I say dudes? I meant ladies, of course. Of course.

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May 17, 2018

Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk

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May 17, 2018

BMW M2

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May 17, 2018
Brodie:

BMW M2

This actually might be a good fit for the OP. I've heard very good things about this car.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

May 17, 2018

You want something cheap and define that as generally below 6 figures? You know you can get an amazing car for under $50K...

I think part of the problem is if you don't drive much, you end up paying a lot of depreciation for not much enjoyment. That doesn't seem like a good trade-off. So given how much you drive, I'd say go second hand, maybe 3-5 years old. Since reliability isn't a problem for you, obviously you can look at the mainstream brands such as BMW, Mercedes and Audi, but I would find it annoying to have to deal with reliability problems even if I don't drive much. I like the Mercedes GLK350 look and I think Audi in general has some of the top rated AWD systems, but the brand isn't overly reliable.

Can take a look at Lexus (low maintenance, some nice cars, especially the newer models). I think Infinity is a fairly under-rated brand and cars such as the G37 have a pretty sporty feel, is fairly reliable, and can get a solid second hand price in the $15K range loaded with tech options.

In the end it depends where you will be driving, whether you need AWD, SUV, sedan, etc. You can get something interesting and relatively inexpensive without having to drive a boring car.

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May 17, 2018

A 2017 Mercedes-Benz S550 goes for $96,600. On top of this vehicle being under your 6 figure budget, it is also fuel efficient. Maintenance should be cheap; this leaves you with wiggle room to add mods

May 17, 2018

Porsche Cayenne

May 17, 2018

2015 M5

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May 17, 2018

I can't fucking believe this isn't the only answer.

OP, what the fuck do you want in a car? You don't even seem to know....clearly you can afford something expensive, but then you keep hedging by saying you wouldn't mind a shitbox...no one can help you if you can't even give a slight approximation of what you want.

As this website's self-appointed car expert, I second the F10 (2013-2017 in the US) M5 suggestion, can easily get a nice used one for about 60k, or less. Hell, 50k will get you a nice one. Fast as hell, great for long drives, tons of space, comfortable, excellent to drive, decent gas mileage, sounds good, looks good, etc.

I don't know why you keep tripping all over yourself to say you don't want to buy xyz car because of "prestige" - this isn't a fucking resume, get what you want. You're the guy saying he can pay 60k in cash for a car that will hardly get used...I think you ought to be less concerned about whether or not people might think you're a douche for the car you drive.

I live in Chicago and own a 2010 M5, and it barely gets driven. But I wouldn't sell it for anything. I use it exactly as you plan to use your car...short trips around town, long road trips, and any time I just feel like driving and listening to the V10 scream. A used AMG S Class might also be what you're looking for.

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May 18, 2018
PeterMullersKeyboard:

I can't fucking believe this isn't the only answer.

OP, what the fuck do you want in a car? You don't even seem to know....clearly you can afford something expensive, but then you keep hedging by saying you wouldn't mind a shitbox...no one can help you if you can't even give a slight approximation of what you want.

As this website's self-appointed car expert, I second the F10 (2013-2017 in the US) M5 suggestion, can easily get a nice used one for about 60k, or less. Hell, 50k will get you a nice one. Fast as hell, great for long drives, tons of space, comfortable, excellent to drive, decent gas mileage, sounds good, looks good, etc.

I don't know why you keep tripping all over yourself to say you don't want to buy xyz car because of "prestige" - this isn't a fucking resume, get what you want. You're the guy saying he can pay 60k in cash for a car that will hardly get used...I think you ought to be less concerned about whether or not people might think you're a douche for the car you drive.

I live in Chicago and own a 2010 M5, and it barely gets driven. But I wouldn't sell it for anything. I use it exactly as you plan to use your car...short trips around town, long road trips, and any time I just feel like driving and listening to the V10 scream. A used AMG S Class might also be what you're looking for.

The E60 M5s are sick. Very clean looking car. V10s are real sexy. Classy and fast. My friend wants to specifically get this year for that engine.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

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Jun 5, 2018

Just make sure your friend has some funds in the bank for the inevitable repairs. It's not a question of "if" but "when" - I used to have savings...then I bought an E60 M5.

I love the thing to death but it has lifted a disgusting amount of money out of my wallet in the last 18 months or so.

"When you stop striving for perfection, you might as well be dead."

May 18, 2018
PeterMullersKeyboard:

I can't fucking believe this isn't the only answer.

OP, what the fuck do you want in a car? You don't even seem to know....clearly you can afford something expensive, but then you keep hedging by saying you wouldn't mind a shitbox...no one can help you if you can't even give a slight approximation of what you want.

As this website's self-appointed car expert, I second the F10 (2013-2017 in the US) M5 suggestion, can easily get a nice used one for about 60k, or less. Hell, 50k will get you a nice one. Fast as hell, great for long drives, tons of space, comfortable, excellent to drive, decent gas mileage, sounds good, looks good, etc.

I don't know why you keep tripping all over yourself to say you don't want to buy xyz car because of "prestige" - this isn't a fucking resume, get what you want. You're the guy saying he can pay 60k in cash for a car that will hardly get used...I think you ought to be less concerned about whether or not people might think you're a douche for the car you drive.

I live in Chicago and own a 2010 M5, and it barely gets driven. But I wouldn't sell it for anything. I use it exactly as you plan to use your car...short trips around town, long road trips, and any time I just feel like driving and listening to the V10 scream. A used AMG S Class might also be what you're looking for.

Former multiple time miata owner. Quick is better than fast, and I am a little OCD. Three pedals are strongly preferred. It needs to be usable as an only car for 95%+ of the time. (I don't think an Elise works given the parking and practicality situations) Reasonably, I'd prefer something I can buy without dipping into my savings account (<$15k) and electronic gadgetry doesn't impress me. A better car with crank windows, manual seats and mirrors that drives better is worth more than an electronic toy to me.

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May 18, 2018
Whatever1984:
PeterMullersKeyboard:

I can't fucking believe this isn't the only answer.

OP, what the fuck do you want in a car? You don't even seem to know....clearly you can afford something expensive, but then you keep hedging by saying you wouldn't mind a shitbox...no one can help you if you can't even give a slight approximation of what you want.

As this website's self-appointed car expert, I second the F10 (2013-2017 in the US) M5 suggestion, can easily get a nice used one for about 60k, or less. Hell, 50k will get you a nice one. Fast as hell, great for long drives, tons of space, comfortable, excellent to drive, decent gas mileage, sounds good, looks good, etc.

I don't know why you keep tripping all over yourself to say you don't want to buy xyz car because of "prestige" - this isn't a fucking resume, get what you want. You're the guy saying he can pay 60k in cash for a car that will hardly get used...I think you ought to be less concerned about whether or not people might think you're a douche for the car you drive.

I live in Chicago and own a 2010 M5, and it barely gets driven. But I wouldn't sell it for anything. I use it exactly as you plan to use your car...short trips around town, long road trips, and any time I just feel like driving and listening to the V10 scream. A used AMG S Class might also be what you're looking for.

Former multiple time miata owner. Quick is better than fast, and I am a little OCD. Three pedals are strongly preferred. It needs to be usable as an only car for 95%+ of the time. (I don't think an Elise works given the parking and practicality situations)

Yeah I have driven the Elise, its a fun car. Its like a go cart.

You could get a Lotus Evora 400 now for relatively cheap (some less than 10K miles). From a "fun to drive perspective," it would probably be near the top in that price range.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

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Jun 5, 2018

You can snag a decent E39 M5 for that sort of money, and it would be plenty of fun to drive. It's not a Miata, but it sounds like you want a road trip car, and as you well know, the Miata is not one of those...the E39 is a great car. Manual gearbox, RWD, good steering, sounds good, goes fast, not terribly unreliable, although don't cheap out on maintenance.

"When you stop striving for perfection, you might as well be dead."

May 17, 2018

I really like the Infiniti Q50's.

May 18, 2018

To everyone giving recommendations, how can you possibly do so with such little info? We have nothing other than this guy used to have a Jeep and his "price range" is 0-100k. OP you should identify what you're truly looking for in a car and let us know. Do you want a muscle car that can do burnouts? Sporty AWD SUV? Classic sports sedan? Luxury cruiser?

"Truth is like poetry. And most people fucking hate poetry."

May 18, 2018

I would go for Jaguar E-Pace; it's definitely worth the money.

May 19, 2018

Buick Roadmaster Wagon

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May 19, 2018
GoodBread:

Buick Roadmaster Wagon

Regular Wagon, or the 6 door Grand Estate Wagon?

Tough decision.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/09/13/5c/09135c53b05a537ef8668949cf459b4a.jpg

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

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May 19, 2018

Good heavens, love it.

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May 19, 2018
Isaiah_53_5:
GoodBread:

Buick Roadmaster Wagon

Regular Wagon, or the 6 door Grand Estate Wagon?

Tough decision.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/09/13/5c/09135c53b05a537ef8668949cf459b4a.jpg

/thread. That's a beauty. You'd be shocked at the pricing for the LT1 Roadmasters these days.

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May 19, 2018

^ thats a beauty. end this thread on a high note.

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Jun 5, 2018

I got a CPO 2016 ND GT for a good price. I'll take the 95% of the use cases that it fills with pleasure.

Jun 8, 2018
Whatever1984:

I got a CPO 2016 ND GT for a good price. I'll take the 95% of the use cases that it fills with pleasure.

Wow you got a 2016 GT? I have to say, I'm impressed. Well done, sir. I've always wanted to drive one.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--RJKac7mJ--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/ez8ehymvcauzsbra3hsw.jpg

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

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Jun 13, 2018

He is talking about a Miata not the Ford GT. (I should have read below...)

Jun 13, 2018
Ohdavey:

He is talking about a Miata not the Ford GT. (I should have read below...)

I know. I'm in denial.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Jun 8, 2018

Buy a Japan car, they are reliable :D I love the old Japanese cars

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