Might as well post before IlliniProgrammer tells you to buy an old Honda :) Seriously though, why are you looking to buy so new? Go for a 06/07/08 model and you'll get it a lot cheaper and lose less in depreciation.
I'm open to arguments as to why I shouldn't. Given that over the summer, the associates I worked with told me I should be well positioned to get a top bucket bonus if I sign on for full-time, and even with a middle bucket bonus my year's take-home pay should be at least $140k (10 + 70 + 60), is it really that bad of an idea to get a nice car? Furthermore, my utility curve is such that I highly value nice cars... I'm willing to live in a lower rent apartment for a nicer car.
I won't be living in NYC, and I will without a doubt be needing to drive everyday and every weekend. Also, my rent should be well under $1k per month.
Nicer cars tend not to be about who can afford them, but who can afford to maintain them. I've never owned a porsche, but I'm sure it's just as ugly when you take it to the dealer out of warranty as an audi is. If you decide to get a nice sports car (a5 isn't really a sports car, the s5 is the real one), expect some items to cost 3x as much (brakes, tires) and to last 1/3 the amount of time (brakes, tires).
Nicer cars tend not to be about who can afford them, but who can afford to maintain them. I've never owned a porsche, but I'm sure it's just as ugly when you take it to the dealer out of warranty as an audi is. If you decide to get a nice sports car (a5 isn't really a sports car, the s5 is the real one), expect some items to cost 3x as much (brakes, tires) and to last 1/3 the amount of time (brakes, tires).
Good to know - wasn't really thinking about maintenance costs.
I have a question about financing: would you guys recommend taking out a 4 year loan and pay equal amounts, or take out a 5-year loan and pay the final year's payment right when I get my bonus after my 4th year of working? That way, I can have more spending money month-to-month for four years, and during the summer before b-school (if I end up going after 4 years) I can spend some of my bonus to finish paying for the car and sell the car immediately after to net a positive cash flow. I probably won't need a car during b-school, right?
If you are single, go for the Porsche. For that kind of money you can get a well sorted 911 (type 997.1 -- model years 2005-07). Cayman is fine too, although I think if you can get a 911, get one. Just pay the few hundred bucks for a PPI (inspection) before buying it - it's worth it.
Here's the thing. When or if you get married -- your future wife (no matter the nationality) will force you to get the luxury sedan (Audi, BMW, etc.) over any sports car. Trust me on this. I don't care how much bravado you have now about how "no man, I will never let a woman push me around" but chances are, even if you had the money, your wife will have a big say in your choice of vehicles especially if there's kids on the way, and the "emotional opportunity cost" is much higher then compared to now (assuming you're not married). Even if you are making big bucks, your future wife will guilt you into putting money into your child's college fund, home renovations, vacation home, etc. - basically the sports car will somehow always end up on the bottom of the priority list and she will make sure of that.
I really love the A5, but it's the kind of car that down the line you have a better chance to convince your wife to buy. In other words, you can always get an A5 or similar sort of luxury vehicle - now or later. But it's harder to buy a sports car if you're married, no matter how much money you have (or even if you can buy it, you'll have less time to enjoy it since you'll be tasked with hauling kids).
Live large. Get the Porsche! Yes it will be more expensive and the upkeep can be a little more than an Audi, but you can enjoy the car more now than you ever will down the road (and this may be your only chance to enjoy it as a single guy... unless you get divorced decades from now).
If you are single, go for the Porsche. For that kind of money you can get a well sorted 911 (type 997.1 -- model years 2005-07). Cayman is fine too, although I think if you can get a 911, get one. Just pay the few hundred bucks for a PPI (inspection) before buying it - it's worth it.
Here's the thing. When or if you get married -- your future wife (no matter the nationality) will force you to get the luxury sedan (Audi, BMW, etc.) over any sports car. Trust me on this. I don't care how much bravado you have now about how "no man, I will never let a woman push me around" but chances are, even if you had the money, your wife will have a big say in your choice of vehicles especially if there's kids on the way, and the "emotional opportunity cost" is much higher then compared to now (assuming you're not married). Even if you are making big bucks, your future wife will guilt you into putting money into your child's college fund, home renovations, vacation home, etc. - basically the sports car will somehow always end up on the bottom of the priority list and she will make sure of that.
I really love the A5, but it's the kind of car that down the line you have a better chance to convince your wife to buy. In other words, you can always get an A5 or similar sort of luxury vehicle - now or later. But it's harder to buy a sports car if you're married, no matter how much money you have (or even if you can buy it, you'll have less time to enjoy it since you'll be tasked with hauling kids).
Live large. Get the Porsche! Yes it will be more expensive and the upkeep can be a little more than an Audi, but you can enjoy the car more now than you ever will down the road (and this may be your only chance to enjoy it as a single guy... unless you get divorced decades from now).
excellent post. you dont want to end up as one of those 60 year olds driving around in a porsche because they never had the opportunity to drive such a car when they were younger.
For one, you shouldn't spend based on what you hope to get in a bonus. What if you don't perform well or your firm hits unexpected hard times? Secondly, saving at a young age is paramount for early retirement. I'd probably spend half of what you are looking to spend on an older used m3 and then when you have a much higher base in a few years buy a porsche (or in my case a lotus).
For one, you shouldn't spend based on what you hope to get in a bonus. What if you don't perform well or your firm hits unexpected hard times? Secondly, saving at a young age is paramount for early retirement. I'd probably spend half of what you are looking to spend on an older used m3 and then when you have a much higher base in a few years buy a porsche (or in my case a lotus).
What's the difference between salary and bonus for a banker? Both are a sure thing if you don't get fired, both are lost if you do get fired.
For one, you shouldn't spend based on what you hope to get in a bonus. What if you don't perform well or your firm hits unexpected hard times? Secondly, saving at a young age is paramount for early retirement. I'd probably spend half of what you are looking to spend on an older used m3 and then when you have a much higher base in a few years buy a porsche (or in my case a lotus).
What's the difference between salary and bonus for a banker? Both are a sure thing if you don't get fired, both are lost if you do get fired.
You know what you are getting base, you don't know now if you'll bonus will be 70k or 35k.
If you live in NYC or Chicago, don't get a car. Just save your money. If you need a car, I suggest you just lease whatever the hell you want. You're going to be working all the time, so a 10k mile lease is more than enough for you. For the same payment on a $40k loan(about $1,200/48 months) you can practically lease anything from a Z4 to an A8/S550. With a lease you also don't have to worry about car repairs and that garbage. I don't know what your dealerships are like, but my local Audi dealer picks up my car at work when I need service.
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Might as well post before IlliniProgrammer tells you to buy an old Honda :) Seriously though, why are you looking to buy so new? Go for a 06/07/08 model and you'll get it a lot cheaper and lose less in depreciation.
New Camaro SS, jizz on that weak sauce.
I love the Cayman S.
neither
996 turbo
f30 3series
2008 mercedes c-class
m3
lease a 06 gallardo
^Finance*
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/2678702627.html unfortunately, body style will be outdated pretty soon
i saw a guy drivin this http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/cto/2658038533.html with a suit/tie and wayfarers lookin like a damn boss
Holy shit that M6 for $40k sounds great. Not sure about the Shelby though haha.
I'm open to arguments as to why I shouldn't. Given that over the summer, the associates I worked with told me I should be well positioned to get a top bucket bonus if I sign on for full-time, and even with a middle bucket bonus my year's take-home pay should be at least $140k (10 + 70 + 60), is it really that bad of an idea to get a nice car? Furthermore, my utility curve is such that I highly value nice cars... I'm willing to live in a lower rent apartment for a nicer car.
I won't be living in NYC, and I will without a doubt be needing to drive everyday and every weekend. Also, my rent should be well under $1k per month.
Nicer cars tend not to be about who can afford them, but who can afford to maintain them. I've never owned a porsche, but I'm sure it's just as ugly when you take it to the dealer out of warranty as an audi is. If you decide to get a nice sports car (a5 isn't really a sports car, the s5 is the real one), expect some items to cost 3x as much (brakes, tires) and to last 1/3 the amount of time (brakes, tires).
Good to know - wasn't really thinking about maintenance costs.
I have a question about financing: would you guys recommend taking out a 4 year loan and pay equal amounts, or take out a 5-year loan and pay the final year's payment right when I get my bonus after my 4th year of working? That way, I can have more spending money month-to-month for four years, and during the summer before b-school (if I end up going after 4 years) I can spend some of my bonus to finish paying for the car and sell the car immediately after to net a positive cash flow. I probably won't need a car during b-school, right?
If you are single, go for the Porsche. For that kind of money you can get a well sorted 911 (type 997.1 -- model years 2005-07). Cayman is fine too, although I think if you can get a 911, get one. Just pay the few hundred bucks for a PPI (inspection) before buying it - it's worth it.
Here's the thing. When or if you get married -- your future wife (no matter the nationality) will force you to get the luxury sedan (Audi, BMW, etc.) over any sports car. Trust me on this. I don't care how much bravado you have now about how "no man, I will never let a woman push me around" but chances are, even if you had the money, your wife will have a big say in your choice of vehicles especially if there's kids on the way, and the "emotional opportunity cost" is much higher then compared to now (assuming you're not married). Even if you are making big bucks, your future wife will guilt you into putting money into your child's college fund, home renovations, vacation home, etc. - basically the sports car will somehow always end up on the bottom of the priority list and she will make sure of that.
I really love the A5, but it's the kind of car that down the line you have a better chance to convince your wife to buy. In other words, you can always get an A5 or similar sort of luxury vehicle - now or later. But it's harder to buy a sports car if you're married, no matter how much money you have (or even if you can buy it, you'll have less time to enjoy it since you'll be tasked with hauling kids).
Live large. Get the Porsche! Yes it will be more expensive and the upkeep can be a little more than an Audi, but you can enjoy the car more now than you ever will down the road (and this may be your only chance to enjoy it as a single guy... unless you get divorced decades from now).
Would go for a BMW M3/M5, I am sure you can get a decent one for that kind of money and it is really a safe bet.
For one, you shouldn't spend based on what you hope to get in a bonus. What if you don't perform well or your firm hits unexpected hard times? Secondly, saving at a young age is paramount for early retirement. I'd probably spend half of what you are looking to spend on an older used m3 and then when you have a much higher base in a few years buy a porsche (or in my case a lotus).
What's the difference between salary and bonus for a banker? Both are a sure thing if you don't get fired, both are lost if you do get fired.
I do love my e46 m3. recommend it and I bought mine for 15
porsches are more reliable than audis theres a reason why theyre #1 on jd power
2007 or 2008 Jaguar XK!!
Also, A5's are SLOW!! google there 0-60 times. quite pathetic for how beautiful of a car it is.
Is it noticeably bad? I don't really drive more than 10 mph above speed limit.
http://carmax.com/enus/view-car/default.html?AVi=10&id=7788221&N=429496…
Lotus Elise/Exige. Maintenance is cheap, and the car is cheap. Best bang for the buck
If you live in NYC or Chicago, don't get a car. Just save your money. If you need a car, I suggest you just lease whatever the hell you want. You're going to be working all the time, so a 10k mile lease is more than enough for you. For the same payment on a $40k loan(about $1,200/48 months) you can practically lease anything from a Z4 to an A8/S550. With a lease you also don't have to worry about car repairs and that garbage. I don't know what your dealerships are like, but my local Audi dealer picks up my car at work when I need service.
http://newyork.craigslist.org/jsy/ctd/3302155260.html
If you are in NYC...
M6 would be great too. That 35k-40k goes a lot farther buying used.
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