What conspiracy theory do you believe in?

I believe Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 wasn't an accident. There were definitely external forces that catalyzed its disappearance. The flight path was diverted many times and there was a lot of shady stuff about some of the passengers and the pilot of Flight 370. We may never know unless the plane is found.

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Jul 12, 2019

Prepare for the heavy inflow of "Bush did 9/11" comments

Bush did 9/11

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Jul 12, 2019

Moon landing = fake

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Jul 12, 2019

George HW Bush played a role in the JFK assassination and the attempted assassination of Reagan.

-FBI archives showed a phone conversation in which J. Edgar Hoover talks about CIA agent "George Bush" being in Dallas on November 22, 1963.
-Reagan's shooter was a mentally unstable man named John Hinckley Jr., who apparently shot Reagan to get attention from actress Jodie Foster. His dad was an energy executive in Houston and a very close friend of HW Bush. The night before the assassination attempt, George W. Bush and Jeb Bush had dinner with Hinckley Junior's older brother.

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Jul 14, 2019

That wouldn't surprise me at all. Nancy Reagan hated the Bushes and barely spoke to them. I suspect she thought something was strange about this.

Jul 12, 2019

Maybe I listen to Joe Rogan too much, but the moon landing not being real has legs. Not the whole thing, but the fact it's become "too expensive" when most technology has become cheaper.

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Jul 12, 2019

I think the idea is that its a waste of the money since there is nothing important on the moon.

Jul 12, 2019

Wrong. There was a private company looking to give moon tours to wealthy enthusiasts.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2019/04...

Jul 12, 2019

A fake moon landing is so dumb. If it were fake, the Russians would've done everything to prove it was a fake.

Jul 12, 2019
MMBanker14:

A fake moon landing is so dumb. If it were fake, the Russians would've done everything to prove it was a fake.

I definitely see more issues in the process, for example, I don't they (the government) could have faked a moon landed and kept everyone involved quiet. The part about the expense just makes me think.

Jul 19, 2019

They didn't have an Orson Welles type character to produce and direct it

Jul 12, 2019
ironman32:

Maybe I listen to Joe Rogan too much, but the moon landing not being real has legs. Not the whole thing, but the fact it's become "too expensive" when most technology has become cheaper.

Legitimately every single "gotcha" in the moon landing conspiracy theory has been thoroughly debunked in the same way that 100% of "gotchas" in the 9/11 conspiracy have been debunked. 100%. Not 99% with a few loose ends. 100% of gotchas have been debunked in both conspiracy theories.

Jul 12, 2019

Guess I need to read up on this.

Jul 12, 2019
ironman32:

Maybe I listen to Joe Rogan too much, but the moon landing not being real has legs. Not the whole thing, but the fact it's become "too expensive" when most technology has become cheaper.

It's more that in the age of 24-hour cable news and the internet we've become much more risk-averse as a society. The guys who went to the moon had something like a 50% chance of coming back according to estimates at the time. No way the government green lights something like that today

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Jul 20, 2019

There are millions of things that have become exponentially more expensive way above the rate of inflation since then. Like buildings and infrastructure, airplanes etc.

Jul 12, 2019
Pio nono:

There are millions of things that have become exponentially more expensive way above the rate of inflation since then. Like buildings and infrastructure, airplanes etc.

Cost to build a house isn't "way" above inflation, and much of the reason for costs being pushed is gov't regulation and economic protectionism (that increases costs of inputs). The free market will almost always lower the costs of goods and services when not impeded by a regulatory superstructure.

Jul 12, 2019

I believe lots of these theories; am I a muppet or woke? That's still to be determined.

  1. Vegas - Stephen Paddock was a patsy of a much larger coup which didn't materialize.
  2. Moon Landing - I'm on the fence. There is a video of Buzz Aldrin punching a guy who claimed he was a fraud. The rocks that returned from the moon are no different than rocks found on Earth.
  3. 9/11 - Every New Yorker wants the answer to why 7 World Trade Center fell when it was not directly hit and neighboring towers were unaffected by debris.
  4. Pulse Nightclub - There is zero CCTV or cell phone video to substantiate anything that allegedly happened.
  5. JFK Assassination - We are lead to believe that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in this murder. Yet Lee was murdered live on TV by a known mobster. Further conspiracy theories say that the mobster even had one of those cops in his pocket and coordinated the exact time of the perp walk as he was running late.
  6. NBA - Created the 3 point shot just to give whitey a chance of balling.
  7. OJ - Innocent on the merits of the case.

I'm sure there are more, will wait for more replies.

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Jul 12, 2019
WolfofWSO:

6. NBA - Created the 3 point shot just to give whitey a chance of balling.

laugh

It didn't work...

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Jul 12, 2019
WolfofWSO:

I believe lots of these theories; am I a muppet or woke? That's still to be determined.

  1. Vegas - Stephen Paddock was a patsy of a much larger coup which didn't materialize.
  2. Moon Landing - I'm on the fence. There is a video of Buzz Aldrin punching a guy who claimed he was a fraud. The rocks that returned from the moon are no different than rocks found on Earth.
  3. 9/11 - Every New Yorker wants the answer to why 7 World Trade Center fell when it was not directly hit and neighboring towers were unaffected by debris.
  4. Pulse Nightclub - There is zero CCTV or cell phone video to substantiate anything that allegedly happened.
  5. JFK Assassination - We are lead to believe that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in this murder. Yet Lee was murdered live on TV by a known mobster. Further conspiracy theories say that the mobster even had one of those cops in his pocket and coordinated the exact time of the perp walk as he was running late.
  6. NBA - Created the 3 point shot just to give whitey a chance of balling.
  7. OJ - Innocent on the merits of the case.

I'm sure there are more, will wait for more replies.

  1. I thought this for a while, but nothing connects Paddock to intelligence agencies, military, or other government operations. We just need to accept that he's a psychopath who blew up. I do wonder why he chose a country music concert, but that's probably because it's an easy target. He intentionally wanted to shoot up a different target before changing his mind.
  2. No. Moon landing happened. I can't blame Buzz Aldrin for getting mad that a whacko claimed that his biggest life achievement was an utter fraud.
  3. The 7 WTC question is legit. Haven't read a good explanation of it yet. I certainly don't buy the theory that W Bush knew about it, but I think there were definitely people in the government who had a sense of what was going to happen.
  4. So many eyewitnesses.
  5. I don't find the theory that convincing. Lee Harvey Oswald was a marine and a communist who despised JFK. I do think the was the lone gunman, but it's possible that he was ordered by the CIA who hated JFK for trying to take down the military and intelligence industrial complex and for being anti-war.
  6. Lol. No comment.
Jul 12, 2019
  1. I don't buy the whole crisis actor argument, but it's just strange that there are zero YouTube videos of the event popping off. The Vegas event has tons of authentic videos.
  2. There is a loose argument that Hoffa had the mob do a favor for him by getting JFK killed to send a message to Robert Kennedy. Then we know the rest with Hoffa.
Jul 12, 2019

LOL, JFK wasn't anti-war. He launched America's role in the Vietnam War. Kennedy attempted to overthrow the Castro regime. Kennedy faced down the Soviets in the Cuban Missile Crisis. Kennedy was not some anti-war hippie.

The problem with so many conspiracy theories is that they are predicated on false information.

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Jul 14, 2019
WolfofWSO:

The rocks that returned from the moon are no different than rocks found on Earth.

False. Moon rocks are low in 'volatiles' i.e. elements with a low boiling point. The theory is the moon was originally formed by a massive collision of a mars-sized object with the earth creating a debris field orbiting the earth. As the heat melted the volatiles these lighter mass particles were absorbed by the earth while the solid elements were accumulated by the moon. Plus, moon rocks have been blasted by literally billions of years of radiation while earth rocks have been shielded by the magnetosphere and the atmosphere, which explains the crystal damage and the absence of water bearing minerals in moon rocks. So while Moon rocks are geologically 'similar' in that they are composed of minerals commonly found on Earth, scientists and geologists can easily differentiate between earth rocks and moon rocks via the presence or absence of certain minerals, not to mention the fact that even 50 years later no-one has been able to synthetically recreate the geological fingerprint of a moon rock. Hope that clears things up for you.

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Jul 15, 2019

ah you beat me to it SB for you!

Jul 12, 2019

I stand corrected. As you can see, some of those items on the list are solely for amusement. I believe we landed on the moon; but there are some interesting tidbits on the contrary.

Jul 16, 2019
WolfofWSO:

I believe lots of these theories; am I a muppet or woke? That's still to be determined.

  1. Vegas - Stephen Paddock was a patsy of a much larger coup which didn't materialize.
  2. Moon Landing - I'm on the fence. There is a video of Buzz Aldrin punching a guy who claimed he was a fraud. The rocks that returned from the moon are no different than rocks found on Earth.
  3. 9/11 - Every New Yorker wants the answer to why 7 World Trade Center fell when it was not directly hit and neighboring towers were unaffected by debris.
  4. Pulse Nightclub - There is zero CCTV or cell phone video to substantiate anything that allegedly happened.
  5. JFK Assassination - We are lead to believe that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in this murder. Yet Lee was murdered live on TV by a known mobster. Further conspiracy theories say that the mobster even had one of those cops in his pocket and coordinated the exact time of the perp walk as he was running late.
  6. NBA - Created the 3 point shot just to give whitey a chance of balling.
  7. OJ - Innocent on the merits of the case.

I'm sure there are more, will wait for more replies.

3 - When WTC 1 collapsed the debris started fires on multiple levels of WTC 7 which burned out of control due to a failed sprinkler system (for starters and multiple reasons). There is continued structural degradation throughout multiple floors as fires continued to rage on but in short this led to the fall.

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.

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Jul 12, 2019

JFK assassination was either CIA or mob, not sure which.

85 NBA draft lotto was rigged so Knicks would get Ewing.

Most recent: Kawhi chose the Clippers because the league found some back-door incentive to keep him from joining Lakers. Joining the Lakers would've cost the league minimum $3b over 3 years as viewership would've declined dramatically due to one team being so dominant (they'd have arguably the 3 best players in the league plus would've filled out the roster with top vets playing for below fair value). Accounting for longer-term damage to the brand and sponsors, could be several billion more in total economic value at stake. I think the Commish made a phone call or two . . could buy a favorable result for a few tens of millions, instead of losing a few billion. Easy math.

Jul 12, 2019

There is now far more parity between the NBA teams, but the West is still so much stronger. Whoever wins the West will become NBA champs

Jul 17, 2019

I agree with your point about costing the league viewership, but after winning with Toronto on his own, I also can't picture Kawhi spotting up in the corner while Lebron and AD run a pick and roll. Winning with three different teams would be unprecedented for a player of his caliber. Exception to Robert Horry.

I'm suspicious of the draft lottery in general. The fact that we don't see the actual lottery live is crazy.

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Jul 12, 2019
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I believe Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 wasn't an accident. There were definitely external forces that catalyzed its disappearance. The flight path was diverted many times and there was a lot of shady stuff about some of the passengers and the pilot of Flight 370. We may never know unless the plane is found.

I think the investigators have said the most likely scenario is that the pilot depressurized it to kill the passengers and then crashed it.

Jul 14, 2019
Jul 14, 2019

Idea that high-ups in big pharma are hiding a better treatment for cancer seems 3/10 compelling to me

Jul 15, 2019

Completely agree with OP about Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. So much ambiguity regarding the crazy flight path and lack of evidence. Really excited to hear what happened when (if) they find the black boxes.

Jul 15, 2019

Russia wants to undermine the US democracy through election meddling and manipulation and by support of Trump to weaken the Western world order. Putin is the leader because he's a formerly trained KGB operative.

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Jul 15, 2019

How does this even make sense?

How did Russia meddle in the election? By showing a few thousand boomers meme-tier Facebook ads about Hillary?

"But they hacked the election" - it hasn't been proven that the DNC "hack" was traceable to the Russian government, just that it may have been done by a Russian individual. But here's the thing, it wasn't so much a hack as it was a phishing scam, which dumbass Tom Podesta fell for hook-line-and-sinker. The RNC was targeted as well but apparently Reince Preibus actually knows how to use email, so it didn't work. So what was so damning about the information that was leaked? That Hillary basically rigged the Democratic primary. That sounds pretty bad. Perhaps we should be more concerned about that than the leak itself, no?

And lastly, what does Russia actually get out of having Trump in office? Trump has been much more belligerent in Ukraine and has continued the sanctions. More Russian soldiers have been killed by pro-Western forces under Trump's watch than at any time since the Cold War. Trump ramping up US oil production by removing drilling regulations has been hurting Russia pretty badly.

"But Trump has weakened NATO, which is what Putin wants". Has Trump weakened NATO? NATO is weak because it's long outlived its usefulness (should have been disbanded in 1991 tbh) and because our European "partners" actively don't give a fuck about it. How can Germany in good faith present a united front against Russia with us when they're dependent on Russian gas? How can they realistically be expected to be full members of the alliance when they don't even meet their spending requirements? NATO was weak well before Trump took office. He's just been shining a light on the rot.

If Putin actually tried something in Eastern Europe, he'd get rolled by the Baltics and Poland alone. The fact that he can barely put down Ukrainian guerrillas or Chechens tells you all need to know about Russia's power projection.

"But Trump badmouthed the CIA" - Good, they deserve it.

"Work ethic, work ethic" - Vince Vaughn
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Jul 15, 2019
Yankee Doodle:

How does this even make sense?

How did Russia meddle in the election? By showing a few thousand boomers meme-tier Facebook ads about Hillary?

"But they hacked the election" - it hasn't been proven that the DNC "hack" was traceable to the Russian government, just that it may have been done by a Russian individual. But here's the thing, it wasn't so much a hack as it was a phishing scam, which dumbass Tom Podesta fell for hook-line-and-sinker. The RNC was targeted as well but apparently Reince Preibus actually knows how to use email, so it didn't work. So what was so damning about the information that was leaked? That Hillary basically rigged the Democratic primary. That sounds pretty bad. Perhaps we should be more concerned about that than the leak itself, no?

And lastly, what does Russia actually get out of having Trump in office? Trump has been much more belligerent in Ukraine and has continued the sanctions. More Russian soldiers have been killed by pro-Western forces under Trump's watch than at any time since the Cold War. Trump ramping up US oil production by removing drilling regulations has been hurting Russia pretty badly.

"But Trump has weakened NATO, which is what Putin wants". Has Trump weakened NATO? NATO is weak because it's long outlived its usefulness (should have been disbanded in 1991 tbh) and because our European "partners" actively don't give a fuck about it. How can Germany in good faith present a united front against Russia with us when they're dependent on Russian gas? How can they realistically be expected to be full members of the alliance when they don't even meet their spending requirements? NATO was weak well before Trump took office. He's just been shining a light on the rot.

If Putin actually tried something in Eastern Europe, he'd get rolled by the Baltics and Poland alone. The fact that he can barely put down Ukrainian guerrillas or Chechens tells you all need to know about Russia's power projection.

"But Trump badmouthed the CIA" - Good, they deserve it.

I don't really know what you want me to say..

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Jul 15, 2019

The US government pushed drugs into inner cities to raise funding to proliferate terrorist organizations around the world, which led to terrorist grand bosses like Osama and worsening inner city prospects and domestic/international relations.

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Jul 15, 2019

I'm not sure about it leading to Osama, but alphabet agencies trafficking narcotics and literally teaching someone to bake rock starting the crack epidemic is not a conspiracy. It is very well documented that this is the case.

Jul 15, 2019

What's more surprising is why there isn't more outrage over this. And I think everyone know it's true.

Jul 15, 2019
Skyywalker:

I'm not sure about it leading to Osama, but alphabet agencies trafficking narcotics and literally teaching someone to bake rock starting the crack epidemic is not a conspiracy. It is very well documented that this is the case.

That's the butt of the joke--which is really on the hardo right leaners that can't see past the surface level.

Jul 12, 2019
Skyywalker:

I'm not sure about it leading to Osama, but alphabet agencies trafficking narcotics and literally teaching someone to bake rock starting the crack epidemic is not a conspiracy. It is very well documented that this is the case.

Can you show me the "well-documented" evidence? In about 5 mins I find 4 formal investigations by the US govt (bi-partisan in nature) that did not find what you're claiming.

Jul 12, 2019

Kevin from Home Alone grew up to be Jigsaw in Saw.

Jul 15, 2019

Do you want to play a game, you filthy animal?

Jul 15, 2019

Watch this video... It will change how you see space. You're telling me aliens don't exist?

Jul 15, 2019

bro do u wanna raid area 51? they cant stop all of us

Jul 15, 2019

Lol I'm already in the military and I rather not get kicked out...

Jul 12, 2019
mswoonc:

Watch this video... It will change how you see space. You're telling me aliens don't exist?

Size of universe doesn't really matter that much. The probability of abiogenesis is the x-factor in the likelihood of alien life. For all we know alien life is abundant or it could be vanishingly rare. Without knowing the probability of abiogenesis it's just speculation.

Intelligent life is likely extremely rare even if abiogenesis isn't that rare. There may be a universe teeming with Neanderthals--creatures that are right at the precipice but lack just the correct parts of the brain needed to take the next leap. Neanderthals were as smart or smarter than humans but had a poorly developed part of the brain used for socialization; therefore, they lived in small, isolated communities with technology that didn't advance at all for 250,000 years.

We really don't know. What we do know is that humanity defied all the odds thanks to countless lucky breaks and just the right brain development. And yes, a global killer asteroid that obliterated the dinosaurs.

Jul 15, 2019

I'm going to have to disagree... over 500,000,000 stars in a single galaxy. The entire universe known to mankind is 78 billion light years. Do you know what that means? Light travels extremely fast. There's nothing faster in the entire universe than light. You turn on light bulb and instantaneous you'll see the light gleaming in your eye. It doesn't even take a single microsecond. So imagine turning on the light and for that light to travel 78 billion years in order for you to see it. The ultra deep field is the furthest we've ever seen and in that photo alone taken by the Hubble scope imaged 10,000 galaxies alone. In each of those galaxies there are approximately 500,000,000 stars and each of those stars have planets orbiting around it and you're telling me you don't think there's a single life? That's absurd. When you look at stars and let's say that star is 10 billion light years away, you're literally looking at the star from 10 billion years ago because that's when the light finally reaches your eyes... think about that for a second on just how big the universe is.

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Jul 15, 2019

Robin William's death wasn't a suicide, but an accidental death due to complications with auto erotic asphyxiation.

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Jul 12, 2019

Not sure about any one specific case but odds would say that some of the celebrity suicides were actually this. Investigators are known to play ball with families cover these things up.

Jul 12, 2019

Enron

Cliff Baxter was murdered under the appearance of a suicide.
Ken Lay faked his own death to avoid prison.

Jul 16, 2019

I'd believe Ken Lay faked his own death. He "died" in Aspen. Would be pretty ease to enlist the help of the coroner and Paramedics there.

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Jul 20, 2019

I work in the power biz and we talk about this all the time, who the fuck dies in Aspen?? But yeah definitely agree that it would be super easy to have a few of your rich buddies help fake your death

Jul 15, 2019

kai greene was never made mr olympia only because he fucked a grapefruit

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Jul 19, 2019

can confirm, maybe this is the year. lol

Jul 15, 2019

saw the boomerang on his insta uploaded 3 days ago(as of 20/7/19) and I agree with your suspicions. If they let him attend it will be veeeery interesting

Jul 16, 2019

Out of all of the terrible threads on WSO, this might actually be the worst.

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Jul 12, 2019

2018 Hawaii false missile alert was either one of two things.
Missile's were intercepted before they reached the target destination.
or
World governments are doing trial runs on their own citizens. The warnings were a false flag. The "accident" was faked.

A sleepy government worker didn't just accidentally push the wrong button...

Jul 16, 2019

It's plausible that the wrong button wasn't pushed, but I think the most likely explanation is that it the alarm was triggered falsely or simply malfunctioned entirely.

Jul 16, 2019

Instagram (plus other SM) were created to provide free data to companies building out facial recognition technology. Things like the 10-yr challenge just help to further those efforts.

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Jul 17, 2019

Leak Seal being better than Flex Seal is absolutely preposterous. I am not sure how this theory came to be, but its blasphemous against everything Phil Swift teaches and should cease to exist. If you need a product that specializes in adhesive bonding, Flex Seal should be your go to, PERIOD.

Jul 12, 2019
Flex_Seal:

Leak Seal being better than Flex Seal is absolutely preposterous. I am not sure how this theory came to be, but its blasphemous against everything Phil Swift teaches and should cease to exist. If you need a product that specializes in adhesive bonding, Flex Seal should be your go to, PERIOD.

Phil owns both products! Conspiracy solved.

Jul 18, 2019

Ronald Reagan and the CIA brought crack to the Black Community.

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Jul 19, 2019

Damn. Then Ronald Reagan and the CIA brought drugs to every single Black Community around the world. Even after his death.

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