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Jul 3, 2018 - 1:49am
G-I the pharma guy:

A few years ago 'Made in China' = shit quality. Now I think a lot of things are made well. Clearly there could be ways of making them with higher quality materials but they aren't bad.

Definitely true. Big companies such as Xiaomi started to expand their product line into consumer electronics and appliances. The thing about those companies in China is that it's mainly an oligopoly, there isn't much competition anyways so it's a brand where you can buy a lot of your goods from (Think Uniqlo in Japan with basics from streetwear to business). Having went to China a few times in the past few years, you'll notice the improvement in weather conditions (outside of Beijing) and the technological advancements.

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Jul 13, 2018 - 12:14pm

You mentioned an oligopoly in Chinese manufacturing, however, I feel that there seems to be greater competition in China than here in the States. For instance, you mentioned Xiaomi as an electronics (and now phone) manufacturer. However, in huge competition with them is Huawei, Vivo, Oppo, Oneplus, Asus, and you can't rule out ZTE just yet. In addition, there is significant foreign phone presence in China as well primarily coming from the likes of Samsung and Apple (which is doing pretty well in China rn as while their revenues were down worldwide, the China market apparently increased 12%). This is comparatively different from the essential duopoly we have here in the US of Apple, which alone holds a 45% stake in the US smartphone market, and Samsung, which dominates the plurality of the remaining 55% android market. That's just my perspective, however, and I'm by no means too familiar with this market.

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Jul 3, 2018 - 8:39am

The era of "shit quality" apparel from China is rapidly ending, because of ongoing increases in minimum wages that have been running at ~15%/year. Low-end production has moved to Bangladesh, Vietnam, Cambodia, and in some cases Africa. Cut & sew production bound for North America increasingly comes from Central America, where competitive wage rates and shorter supply lines make the economics more attractive.

https://shenglufashion.com/2016/01/28/minimum-wage-in-the-apparel-indus…

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Jul 4, 2018 - 1:29am

In fact, Chinese manufacturing has already represented the upper-middle level of production in the world, while cheap and poor quality products have been turned to lower-productivity countries. In fact, we have reason to believe that Chinese manufacturing has represented the level of quality that most customers can accept.

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Jul 4, 2018 - 4:15am

The speed of hardware manufacturing in Shenzhen is insane. Highly skilled tech manufacturing, China gets shit done. All of the cheap made in China plastic toys and stuff are moving to the rural shitty parts of China or Bangladesh, India, or Africa because it's too expensive to manufacture it in 1st tier Chinese cities.

Jul 13, 2018 - 11:08am

One of my closest friends is a Chinese immigrant to the United States who still consistently does work in China. She said that in a generation, the Chinese will be as fat and as lazy as Americans, that wealth changes a nation. It will be interesting to see how that plays out.

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Jul 13, 2018 - 11:47am

I am from India - raised in the USA - so before you Chinese or Asians go gung ho blasting me , just know that I am rational and not your typical Chinese hating Indian origin person.

I have a lot of respect for Chinese manufacturing.

Manufacturing is tough because it requires an entire ecosystem more than product in place. You need water, electricity, good roads, transport/logistics, port, non-unionized workers, and disciplined workers along with serious management.

In India you can't get shit done in manufacturing because the power breaks. Power cuts are often. Add to that the workers are technically incompetent. China probably has more skilled laborers than any place on earth - welders, mechanics, etc.

Add to that know-how of capital equipment. From plastic injection machines to how to forge a steel bar properly.

Despite my nation of origin having differences with China, and my general opinion of Chinese people, I have respect for Chinese industrialization. Manufacturing isn't a joke, and Chinese manage it better than anyone else on earth. Truly astounding.

My only concern is Chinese products on the whole aren't equal. The contractors for Apple are different than a small shop. Mattel is a company that went through trouble as led was found in their China made products.

Made in China is improving, but you seem to get what you pay for. Someone once said the Chinese will never say no, the issue is the product quality will match the price.

Jul 15, 2018 - 10:46pm

Thank you for your answer and your respect. You mentioned the water and electricity necessary for the operation. In China, the government is also strongly supporting the innovation of the manufacturing industry. In fact, as a Chinese, we are also looking forward to the changes in this industry and expect it to achieve great progress.

Jul 16, 2018 - 6:17pm

I'd also add infrastructure as a major point of difference. The Chinese government had perfected the ability to churn out roads and high-speed rail networks at an astonishing rate, while inadequate transportation seriously constrains manufacturing in India.

Nov 1, 2018 - 7:22pm

It's important to understand that any changes at a country level happens in decade timescales not over night. That being said, Made in China will dominate for years to come. But China has been purposefully been phasing out low skilled manufacturing like clothing, footwear etc to phase in technological high skilled manufacturing.

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