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  • Prospect in IB-M&A
Apr 13, 2021 - 6:25pm

Wasn't this gap always a thing? It's a holy trinity sure but haven't Harvard and Stanford always been a cut above?

  • Business School in IB - Gen
Apr 20, 2021 - 10:25am

It's in line with the increase in prestige whoring across the board. Instead of being happy about landing a coveted BB gig, it's now "how do I trade a mid-BB (BAML/Citi) for GS/MS/JPM?". The same thing is happening with business schools (see: people trying to come up with ridiculous groupings - nobody gives a shit if you went to Booth vs. Kellogg vs. CBS vs. Haas). People get off to prestige and the need for external validation.

Don't disagree with your assertions though. Rant above was mainly because I'm sick of the H/S or bust crowd (sorry that you have to slum it at Wharton). H/S do have some separation from the rest, Wharton is a rock-star 1.B program, and the other top 5-6 schools won't prevent you from achieving any of your goals.

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Apr 13, 2021 - 6:27pm

Lol the CEO of Google is a W alum. The CEO of Microsoft went to UChicago Booth. CEO of Apple went to Duke Fuqua. Once you are in the conversation of the C-Suite aslong as you went to a certain ballpark of schools, not getting into H/S will not be what holds you back. 

Apr 14, 2021 - 10:36am

This ^^ it just has to be a prestigious institution 

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Apr 22, 2021 - 10:33pm

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Lol the CEO of Google is a W alum. The CEO of Microsoft went to UChicago Booth. CEO of Apple went to Duke Fuqua. Once you are in the conversation of the C-Suite aslong as you went to a certain ballpark of schools, not getting into H/S will not be what holds you back. 

Correction - once you are in a legit c-suite role no one gives a shit about your b-school or undergrad for that matter. If you don't have the vision and capabilities your school is not going to propel you that far.  It may propel you to being a finance drone that talks still strokes it to schools in your 40s 

Apr 13, 2021 - 11:37pm

Lmao that you think going to HS or W matters for getting picked for getting a C-Suite position. Nobody cares about your school besides in the junior roles where you are expected to crunch out work quickly and accurately. It just so happens that the kids that studied the hardest, got into the best schools, and got the best grades are the ones who are a perfect fit for the  Consulting / Banking / PE junior classes where this is required of you.

Once you get to the big leagues - MD / PM / C-Suite etc. people care about mostly about if you can increase value or not. Can you sell? Can you bring in more money into the firm? Do you have good ideas that can accelerate the business and have the ability to manage the execution of it? And unsurprisingly, the skills and personality required at the top levels often fit a very different profile than the kids who always aced every class and made into IB / Consulting / etc. 

Apr 14, 2021 - 10:22am

Yea my point was any perceived gap by applicants is not very meaningful when you are on the job. Nobody really cares you went to Wharton instead of Harvard. 

Yes there's a small and very trivial perceived gap in the minds of applicants - especially the finance / consulting crowd. Since when? Since forever - Harvard has always been the top brand name in academia the US (Oxford in UK) for the past several centuries.

Apr 14, 2021 - 12:12pm

That makes sense. Would you say HBS also has a better network than Wharton? Applicants always tout HBS as having the best network on the planet, just not sure how true/big of a difference there is (since there really isn't any stats out there, other than maybe that HBS producing more F500 CEOs, but that can't really be generalized to the overall network). As others have said, Wharton has produced its incredible share of high powered alumni as well.

I see a few people on here saying H/S is soo much better than W, so that's where the question is coming from haha. Strangely most of these people went to a non-HSW M7.

Apr 17, 2021 - 11:25pm

It's really Harvard and then S/W.  Ask anyone walking down the street which one they've heard of and the majority will say Harvard.  There's a reason for that.

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  • Intern in IB-M&A
Apr 18, 2021 - 1:29am

I don't care what a plumber in Minnesota has to say. Even then, H/S win out because of dominance across disciplines. Rice farmer in Korea? Sure maybe just Harvard.

Apr 18, 2021 - 8:30am

I don't care what a plumber in Minnesota has to say. Even then, H/S win out because of dominance across disciplines. Rice farmer in Korea? Sure maybe just Harvard.

You missed the point: outside of technology circles, Harvard is very clearly the leader.  It has always been Harvard and then everyone else fighting for second.  

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  • Prospect in IB-M&A
Apr 18, 2021 - 4:07pm

Eh not really, plenty of H/S dual admits are choosing Stanford. If you stopped someone on the street I'd imagine they'd hold both in similar regards. 

  • Associate 1 in IB - Ind
Apr 18, 2021 - 1:06am

Ridiculous thread.  Let me tell you all a secret from someone that went to one of the schools listed here.  Outside of the circle jerk that is PE/VC, banking, and consulting, literally no one cares or will be impressed with where you went to school.  Search EVPs from F500 companies on LinkedIn and you'll be surprised how few went to any "prestigious" school and/or have a consulting/banking background.  

  • Prospect in IB-M&A
Apr 20, 2021 - 10:00pm

OK, but isn't the primary focus of this very forum to provide insight into, as you put it,

the circle jerk that is PE/VC, banking, and consulting

???

I don't love the prestige whoring either, but for someone who is interested in these industries, it is a fair question to ask.

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