What was your undergraduate GPA?

So I keep seeing all of these threads that basically go along the lines of: "what GPA do I need to be successful" or "what is the minimum cutoff GPA at each firm?" so I figured I'd start a thread to cut through all the grey areas and just straight up ask people honestly what their undergrad GPA is/was. I'll start - currently sitting at a 3.87.

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Feb 17, 2019

3.1-ish?
It doesn't matter after ten letters. I don't ask what the other guy got during his Ph.D. at Chicago.

Feb 17, 2019

About 3.7, both undergrad/grad.

3.3-3.5 seemed to be the cutoff for a lot of firms when I was applying to jobs.

Feb 17, 2019

3.1 in Electrical Engineering.

Class avg. was around 2.8 IIRC.

Feb 17, 2019

3.93

Feb 17, 2019

3.67. It's correctly said that it won't matter 5 years after graduation, but it does for the first 1-2 positions you take. When I used to review resumes in banking from my university, I would have a stack of 50+ submissions for internships so I would generally use a ~3.55-3.6 as a cutoff to slim things down unless someone was an athlete in which case I generally would give some additional points. Nothing crazy, but I might give a D1 athlete an extra 0.1-0.15 given their workload.

When recruiting into PE I remember almost every headhunter and firm asked for SATs and then after going to an MBA program, people asked me for my GMAT. Kind of silly stuff, but it does ultimately help narrow the pool.

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Feb 18, 2019
Cav21x:

3.67. It's correctly said that it won't matter 5 years after graduation, but it does for the first 1-2 positions you take. When I used to review resumes in banking from my university, I would have a stack of 50+ submissions for internships so I would generally use a ~3.55-3.6 as a cutoff to slim things down unless someone was an athlete in which case I generally would give some additional points. Nothing crazy, but I might give a D1 athlete an extra 0.1-0.15 given their workload.

When recruiting into PE I remember almost every headhunter and firm asked for SATs and then after going to an MBA program, people asked me for my GMAT. Kind of silly stuff, but it does ultimately help narrow the pool.

This made me cringe a little. I had a 3.3 in undergrad, which is not great. But I also worked 3 days during the week, and took 5-6 classes a semester so I could finish on time without summer/winter sessions. The days where I had to work or study for extra hours, I really needed some time in the gym, shooting hoops or throwing around weights.

This is a privilege that I would ask, is it needed? You're talking about opposite types of work, where I would assume, one could play off the other. I guess a .1 boost isn't horrible, but, still seems a bit biased.

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Feb 17, 2019

There are certainly other circumstances I'd consider and I only used the athlete as an example; maybe I should have been more explicit, but what it was meant to say is that I wasn't just immediately looking at GPA and skipping on. Although, for standard students A, B, and C who have average extra-curriculars with no stated special circumstances, the GPA served as an easy cut.

I am just trying to be honest. Is it the best method? Maybe not, but what is? The unfortunate reality at my firm at least was that the youngest analysts were typically chosen to do the first cut of resumes with an Associate taking a quick look. Of course if an MD knew someone they would also chime in (and their advice & recommendation were always taken). So when a bunch of 22 years olds are doing the picking and you know a VP/MD is more likely to raise a point of "why the hell am I meeting with this kid with the 3.2" you're less likely to stick your neck out for some you don't know. What's your risk vs. reward level. It's much safer to pick a bunch of 3.7+ kids to fall back on if they do all happen to crash hard in the interviews.

I know plenty of folks in your position and it's tough. You've got to hustle that much harder.

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Feb 18, 2019

I support our recruiting. If I see you have a job, I usually give extra points. A 3.3 with a job is much more impressive to me than a 3.4 without one.

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Feb 17, 2019

Also depends on country - In Scandinavia, for example, they will often ask for grades long after graduation. I've seen positions that require over 5 years of top experience, and where they still require "Excellent academic results", and request grade transcripts going all the way back to High-School (no joke).

Not saying that candidates will automatically get dinged if they don't, but Finance and Consulting firms here are borderline obsessed with recruiting a certain kind of overachievers. And many firms will use grades as a proxy for IQ tests, so they want a complete picture.

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Feb 17, 2019

I'm asking about USA, not Scandinavia bro lol

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Feb 17, 2019
tackytech:

Also depends on country - In Scandinavia, for example, they will often ask for grades long after graduation. I've seen positions that require over 5 years of top experience, and where they still require "Excellent academic results", and request grade transcripts going all the way back to High-School (no joke).

Not saying that candidates will automatically get dinged if they don't, but Finance and Consulting firms here are borderline obsessed with recruiting a certain kind of overachievers. And many firms will use grades as a proxy for IQ tests, so they want a complete picture.

As you say, it is VERY location dependent. I was dead last in my HS class (it was a very good school), and I am meeting with an AM professional who controls the equivalent of the GDP of Scandinavia tomorrow.

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Feb 17, 2019

~3.9 It really only matters for your first few jobs, as noted above. Maybe the Magna/Summa designation carries some weight at smaller firms where your bio is listed on the website

Feb 17, 2019

Let me ask you this - do you think you'd still be where you are today if you had a 3.7?

Feb 17, 2019

Have done pretty well with a lower GPA

Feb 17, 2019

Tough to say. I'm not sure whether interviewers gave me the chance cause of my GPA versus something else on my resume. I'm sure I would have fared fine with a 3.7 though

Feb 18, 2019

Pretty low to be honest. It's something I've definitely gotten better at as I've gotten more mature and upped my game. Back at undergrad, each night out I probably attempted to get 5 or 6 girls, but only ever really managed 1 - and many nights 0 :( . So I guess my GPA would be around .1 or something like that. Congrats to all you sluggers out there!

EDIT: Wow, tough crowd here on this thread. Didn't realize it was going to be so serious. I guess there's a lot of undergrads seeking validation through their GPAs. So I'll play along and break it down for y'all nice and simple like:

Yes, your GPA matters, usually the higher the better. Some firms have "cutoffs" because they need a mechanism to reduce the applicant pool. Such is life. Usually this cutoff is either a 3.5 or a 3.3 - so if you can be above these, great. But no, nobody cares if you got a 3.84 vs a 3.72 vs a 3.76. And your school and major matter more than your GPA. That's why this thread and similar ones are so ridiculous. Me posting "I got a 3.62" is absolutely meaningless without context of what school I went to and what I studied. A 3.4 at a target is usually more impressive than a 3.9 at some state school. It's about the context.

Yes, there are extra factors. If you played a varsity sport (at a D1 school, not at D2 or D3 lol), or somehow excelled elsewhere (academic competitions, music/art, whatever) this will give you a leg up and some wiggle on your GPA. If you are chill and people like you, that will also give you a leg up in interviews.

Finally, all firms have different recruiting criteria. But the basic gist is the same. Get good grades, show why you are a "winner", and be tolerable to work with and you will be ok.

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Feb 17, 2019

By GPA I'm guessing you mean Girls Per Attempt? lol

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Feb 17, 2019

Law of large numbers.

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Feb 21, 2019

"A 3.4 at a target is usually more impressive than a 3.9 at some state school."

Guess you're unfamiliar with grade inflation at Ivies. The craziest thing I've heard was from an old college buddy of mine a few years back. His brother goes to Berkeley (I think? Maybe something similar) where apparently you have the option to drop your first semester GPA. Man, wouldn't that be nice..

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Feb 23, 2019

I checked the registrar website for Cal and I don't think that first semester GPA can be dropped. That being said, grade inflation at Ivies is real, and even at other targets such as Stanford, GPA is out of 4.3 (for A+).

Feb 18, 2019

3.0. Let's just say I had a lot of fun in college. Definitely no regrets because I turned out fine. Although I'm gonna have to kill the GMAT to get into T10 MBA

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Feb 20, 2019

Nah just invade a county bro, I got into an M7 with sub-3.0 UG, had some good work experience and the veteran status

Mar 17, 2019

Can you tell me more about this?. What are career opportunities like after an MBA without work experience in your industry?

Feb 18, 2019

Sub 3.0. Pretty trash. I'm not sure if it's ever hurt me or not - maybe my resume has been thrown out, but no one has ever brought it up or asked about it in an interview.

Oddly enough, my 3.8 graduate GPA almost was used against me. Company was worried I didn't have social skills.

Feb 18, 2019

Same here. I have a 3.8 just like you and literally that's the biggest concern people typically have.
Also had an interviewer at a F500 tell me how he thinks kids with high GPAs are cheaters, so he's vary of people with high GPAs. Which is total bs if you ask me. Luckily I got the offers so it's all good now.

I think the biggest misconception with GPA is that after a certain level say like 3.5 it really doesn't matter because companies just care if you're good enough, not that you're necessarily the "best".

thots and prayers

Feb 17, 2019

A 3.8 vs a 3.85 vs a 3.91 vs a 3.78 means absolutely nothing. But a 3.8 vs a 3.1 makes a big difference.

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Feb 18, 2019

How did you present your GPA in interviews? Did you keep your GPA on your resume to begin with when applying for positions?

Feb 18, 2019
CodyParkey:

How did you present your GPA in interviews? Did you keep your GPA on your resume to begin with when applying for positions?

My undergraduate GPA is not on my resume because it is shit. My graduate GPA is on my resume because it is goo.d

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Mar 21, 2019

@CRE

Do you think your GPA hurt you when applying to MRE & MRED programs? Do you think with your sub 3 gpa you would've been admitted to USC?

Feb 18, 2019
press107:

Do you think your GPA hurt you when applying to MRE & MRED programs?

No

press107:

Do you think with your sub 3 gpa you would've been admitted to USC

Unsure, but I was admitted to Georgetown, Johns Hopkins, and others without question.

Feb 18, 2019

It was like 3.2 ish, did not do well in all classes outside my major (Science, Art). All A for major classes (Poli Sci/Econ). I was working 7 days a week to pay for everything so finished with no student debt, which is nice.

Cash and cash equivalents: $138,311
Financial instruments and other inventory positions owned: $448,166

Feb 18, 2019

3.2 from target, at a top asset manager rn

No regrets, although had I not ended up here, probably would have some regrets

Feb 18, 2019

I was in the 3.2 - 3.3 range. But I played a sport and also worked (not during the season) to help keep my debt down.

Feb 18, 2019

Depends on your intended path and major.

3.1 at a state school in engineering. 4.0 in grad school in engineering. Working Corp. Strategy 4+ years out after undergrad. Life is sure something else.

Feb 18, 2019

My undergrad GPA was lower than the BAC on my DUI. Boom!
And I turned out just fine professionally

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Feb 18, 2019

So your GPA was below 1.0? There's schools that let you graduate with that?

Feb 18, 2019

I could drive flawlessly with one eye closed at a 1.0. Way North of that little cubbie.

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Feb 18, 2019

3.7 GPA, which is a poor way to gauge anything about anyone. It's the other stuff I did WHILE getting a 3.7 that made the difference.

Feb 19, 2019
Sunshine Funshine:

I'll start - currently sitting at a 3.87.

Is this your second semester in college?

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Feb 17, 2019

6th

Feb 19, 2019

3.35

Dayman?

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Feb 20, 2019

Did you network into IB? Target school?

Feb 19, 2019

Semi-target. Networked my nuts off. Definitely some luck in there too. Tbh I never actually had a hard time landing interviews, even with a couple top notch places.

Dayman?

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Feb 19, 2019

It matters to get internships and for your first job, and only if you are going for positions that are really competitive.... that is it. I had a 3.8 my Junior year and it dropped to a 3.47 by graduation because I started businesses (that failed) but it didnt matter because I already had good experience from my internships. For people that are worried about bad GPA's, if there are other life circumstances that created the bad GPA besides laziness or a lack of intelligence, there is no issue, you just need to be in a position to have a 5 minute lunch, coffee, interview, with anyone who has control over hiring/recommending you. Smart people can see intelligence and general positive/negative personality traits within 5 minutes.

TL/DR: talent never gets stuck anywhere, that is why they are talent

EDIT: Also, one thing my dad has told me (I am smart, but I am not a genius, my IQ is probably around 115, but I make up for it because I played a lot of chess growing up and given enough time I can really grasp things deeply) my Dad has always said it is not IQ alone but moderate intelligence combined with good character that creates the success he has witnessed in his peers.

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Feb 18, 2019

What? That's low... I'm 150ish area (tested young so I don't put a lot of stock in that number)...

I'd say grinders almost always come out ahead because no matter the position we grind. I have a twin who is much more intelligent than me... but I'm a grinder and due to that, I've almost always come out ahead outside of academic marks lol. He had a much better GPA than me, but I did the homework/projects while he skated. My hard work and luck landed me a gig that he dreams of lol. He doesn't have the nature to grind, which will hold you back more than IQ ever will.

Edit: I wasn't calling you dumb. Just surprised. I'd say most people that can find WSO are probably smarter then they think. Isn't the average person around 100-110? I'd say your posts are definitely better than what I would expect the average person to write, though I have a low opinion of the average US person...

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Feb 19, 2019

Yes, average is 100, I did not take offense, i think 115 is 85th percentile, 120 is 90th percentile, 130 is 97th ... I guess I just like being able to recognize some people who are truly gifted and being able to listen to them, I am well aware of people below me, but the people who are higher than me, I have no way to comprehend how much higher than me they are. I like knowing where I stand because it helps me know when to shut up and listen. I think young people (i was guilty of this) assume they are the shit and old people just dont get it, but it was significant when I realized there are some older people in their 60's + who were smarter than me at my age and have used their intelligence to get to an exponentially higher place that I can try to leap frog from.

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Feb 20, 2019

Yep I definitely learned this. Last I tested (a couple years ago) I was in the high 130s-low 140s, (I can't remember exactly) but not until I worked on my social skills and character did everything come together after college.

Feb 18, 2019

Same. I was super introverted, but I learned from my extremely extroverted girlfriend at the time that those folks are the ones people/companies/employers wanted. Dating her was the best thing that ever happened to me, and it was Junior year (so perfect timing).

I don't put a lot of stock in my number but I'd assume I didn't get too much dumber since then. Every now and then I wish I were dumber because I work with some real... nice people. Ignorance seems like such bliss, but then I kill a project and remember what it's like to be smart. It's an addicting feeling to be sure.

Feb 25, 2019

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Feb 19, 2019

I had a 3.5
Cut off for my work I believe is a 3.25

Feb 19, 2019

Mine was 3.64314159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494 - give or take...

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Feb 20, 2019

Straight 3.0, now associate in IB

Feb 20, 2019

Pi.

Feb 20, 2019

Too low sad face

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Feb 20, 2019

My major GPA was a 3.7 but my overall GPA was like a 3.5 because I fucked around a lot freshman year.

Feb 20, 2019

3.80 / 4.00 GPA
Economics major / Statistics minor
Liberal arts non-target

Feb 20, 2019

I graduated with a 3.28 after taking 4 years off to play poker for a living. When I initially quit for poker which was first semester of sophomore year, my GPA was circa a 1.0 because I stopped going to class and didn't take finals that semester, but also didn't withdraw...really smart on my part.

Feb 20, 2019

2.48

I win! We're play golf right?... Right? Cries

I've posted my story before and am an anomaly. Don't follow what I did. Good grades are very important, if nothing more than to get the respect of your professors who will be your great first professional connection to the industry.

Feb 20, 2019

1.58 - It's great when you know people ;)

Feb 17, 2019

You literally had a 1.58? What job are you doing now?

Feb 20, 2019

A good job.

JK AM at a top 10 firm. Kush.

Feb 20, 2019

Are you using a different metric? I don't see how you can graduate with under a 2.0. I was on probation to be kicked being under 2.5..

Feb 20, 2019

3.2... sometimes got lucky since athlete

Feb 20, 2019

3.7 or 3.8 (rounded) when I was recruiting for banking as a sophomore, and 3.5 when I graduated college.

Feb 20, 2019

Lol this thread. 90% of high GPAs are the result of a bullshit major or a shit school. The other 10% are not posting on this thread, I promise. Lmao no wonder you all whine and quit banking.

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Feb 20, 2019

Turns out I'd been lying/mistaken about my GPA all these years. I could have sworn it was a 3.5. It's actually a 3.4 haha. Goes to show how much anyone's ever cared. Never been questioned about it, even when my transcripts have been requested.

Feb 20, 2019

2.5ish, finance major from a non-target. Anything is possible.

FWIW - I knew an MD and left my GPA off my resume and it never came up in the interview.

Feb 21, 2019

~3.8 undergrad (acct) / 4.0 grad (finc) - large state uni

"We must all suffer from one of two pains: the pain of discipline or the pain of regret. The difference is discipline weighs ounces while regret weighs tons."

Feb 21, 2019

4.0, 1 semester left after this one. Going to lose it this semester I've fucked up hard already

Feb 21, 2019

But the average GPA for a business major at my school is a 3.5 so my 4.0 means nothing

Feb 17, 2019

Then what's the point of working hard for that 4.0 if it means nothing?

Feb 21, 2019

2.97. Never came up in interviews and I just left BO at an AM for a commodity trading job at a large Ag company.

Feb 21, 2019

Can i get a comp estimate on the position in your switch? Always been curious about comps at commodity shops

Don't beat yourself up on this, Eric. Some people like taking the long way home. Who the fuck knows?

Feb 21, 2019

Expecting ~$68K all in. I live in the midwest for reference.

Feb 21, 2019

3.0 in engineering. never wrote it on the resume. engineering classes were curved to C

Feb 21, 2019

2.8, somehow pulled off a PE internship in undergrad and said f*** this

I prefer the 35-40 hr work weeks - better suits my work ethic considering I got a 2.8

Feb 17, 2019

What kind of job do you have now? Are you enjoying it?

Feb 21, 2019

FP&A at regional beverage company.

Obviously we have our busy times of the year, but for the most part if you are proactive with your work you'll never have to work more than 40.

I can get in 9 holes everyday after work in the summer.

Feb 21, 2019

2.4, Economics, non-target

Feb 17, 2019

What kind of career are you working now?

Feb 21, 2019

FO Struc Fin

Feb 21, 2019

2.0

Feb 21, 2019

2.1, graduated with a Bio major and chem minor I was not passionate about but gave into demands of overbearing parents who wanted me to be in the field since they had connections. Lacked the spine to speak out and tell them to get lost, was depressed, took bad grades in upper-level sciences, and was very miserable in college.

The weird part is I have A's in the only finance, marketing, advertising, and non-science classes I took but my grades in the life sciences were trash.

Tried to propose to my parents the benefits of letting me study finance after I failed O Chem 1 but you can't reason with hard-heads and imbeciles, they reasoned a 2.0 life science major is better than a 4.0 in finance because of the 2008 economic crash.

Took a while but told parents to fuck off, now I work in sales and make a decent salary (not IB level though).

So what college gave me in terms of academic scar, it helped me in terms of growing from a boy a slave to selfish irrational narcissists he had to call parents to a grown man who lives life how he wants.

Unfortunately, a top 10 MBA is out of the question though and so is a career in high finance but that's life :'(

Feb 17, 2019

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Feb 21, 2019

I wish I would have majored in Finance, Accounting, or a more business-oriented major. The life sciences are pretty damn useless for life and are often full of overcompensating nerds, children of immigrants or conservative people push into it by parents, and the very few people who actually do want to make an impact on the world. The knowledge itself is worthless for the real world.

With finance, business, or accounting at least I could have applied that knowledge to adulthood. Love my life now though.

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Feb 20, 2019

Worst part about a low GPA is spending the first 5 years of your career rationalizing what went wrong, living and dwelling on past mistakes that you cannot change. It's this that derails people more than the GPA itself.

Take a part-time courseload and get As so you have an alternate transcript as proof to others - and yourself, that you've moved on. And then do just that. Move. On.

Feb 21, 2019

You're right, it sucks that it matters a lot but I feel like some out there are understanding. Luckily I am not in high finance so GPA barely means as much.

Feb 21, 2019

3.79. Have always been annoyed it ended up barely below a 3.80. It's like a 3.794 or something. Ugh. I blame studying abroad.

Feb 23, 2019

Just round that bad boy up man. People round up 3.45 to 3.5

Feb 21, 2019

As somebody frequently on the other side, if a person writes 3.5 I assume it's a 3.45, not a 3.49. Because if you had a 3.51-3.54, you would never round to a 3.5 Like at a certain point I guess it doesn't matter that much, but when people are close to the GPA cutoff for example, IMO it can make a difference.

Feb 21, 2019

3.9 self-reported
magma cum lawdie

heister:

Look at all these wannabe richies hating on an expensive salad.

Feb 17, 2019

My nickname in college is the GPA booster.

I always help women cum laude - if you know what I mean.

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Feb 21, 2019

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heister:

Look at all these wannabe richies hating on an expensive salad.

Feb 22, 2019

2.1 overall. A little better in major. Needless to say, I had a very slow start. It got better. Best comp year was $1.15M. Might exceed it this year depending on equity payout.

Feb 17, 2019

how old are you making 1.5mm comp?

Feb 23, 2019

If you don't mine me asking, what are you doing now? Trying to light little fires of hope for all the other suboptimal GPA stragglers...

Feb 22, 2019

I didn't start in finance until my early 50's

Hit a million comp after 5 years in my mid 50's

Now working at a Silicon Valley start up. Have enough in the bank to retire, though

Don't get me wrong... Starting a career was hard with the low GPA. I had to talk myself into grad school and early jobs. I got some breaks and found a great mentor who believed in me.

Feb 25, 2019

I guess your Grizzled name really is accurate. It's nice to see older posters here, I often forget that not everyone is young like me.

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Feb 23, 2019

GPA was like 2.9 (3.6 major in RE) from a state school, I work at a top CRE Brokerage firm on the west coast. Wasn't ever asked about GPA, everyone just assumed it was really high since I knew my stuff.

Feb 17, 2019

How did you learn your stuff if not in school?

Feb 23, 2019

I mean, I got a 3.6 in my major, I basically just got C's in everything else (Gen Eds).

Feb 24, 2019

3.88 undergrad.

Less important in b-school (to a degree), especially if you're in a program that doesn't disclose GPA to most firms (some companies may have a special arrangement with the school to still have access though).

Feb 24, 2019

Graduated thank you laude with a 2.7 at a non-target with an economics degree. Finessed my way into my MSF program & through the MSF program for a 3.6 gpa. Am now in Big4 M&A. Am looking to lateral into IBD.

Work hard, work clean, & most of all do not give up.

Feb 17, 2019

What's your comp in big4 m&a?

Feb 24, 2019

Comp is close to $65k in a Tier-2 city: Charlotte/ATL/DC, etc. But the Big4 brand easily adds $25k intangibly.

Work hard, work clean, & most of all do not give up.

Feb 24, 2019

4.0, state school, business
This was my main selling point, I was just mildly involved in extracurriculars so this was my primary focus

Feb 24, 2019

3.9 at an HYP (current junior, econ major, non-athlete, no job, but heavily involved in my fraternity). Going to an MBB in NY for the summer (tryna get free b-school)

Feb 17, 2019

"Heavily involved in my fraternity," he said.

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