What's wrong with bowties?
What makes them inappropriate? I think they're classy. Was going to wear one to an interview, but my dad told me no.
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You have to earn the right to wear a bow tie. Not just anybody can wear one.
This. If you're in the south, the bar is lower, but it still must be earned.
What's the lowest level that can pull it off? Or do you pretty much have to be the CEO?
Interview wear = conservative. Bow ties = definitely not conservative.
The only time I've ever seen bow ties worn down here in the South is during football games, and that's only by us guys in Fraternities...but even then it's only the more extroverted guys who can really pull it off.
They scream attention because they deviate from the norm. Complete opposite of conservative, and generally scream attention-seeking manwhore.
That's just how fashion/style works, so deal with it. Get rid of that classiness idea out of your head. Save the black ones to go with a tuxedo. Other than that, no.
This. In an alternate universe, bowties are the norm and ties are far less common. It's all arbitrary and ties of any kind serve no real utility. In this universe, bowties are just unique. So there's nothing "wrong" with them - it's a piece of cloth. But they're unacceptable for an entry-level interview in the finance industry just because they deviate from the norm in such a substantial way.
Whoa there brotha, they're not that crazy if you're working in the south. Tri-state area? You're almost certainly correct, but Charlotte, Atlanta, or Houston (maybe?) they're not as unusual. That being said, yeah, don't wear one to an interview, I'm with you there.
They're in the same category as suspenders
Wearing a bowtie to an interview is only slighlty less absurd than wearing a tuxedo.
Never trust a man wearing a bowtie, ever.
What about Bill Nye?
Aggressive :).
Bowties deviate from the norm. In finance, dressing is about doing it well within a very narrow set of guidelines- hence, no bowties.
For an interview, never. Your goal is to present yourself as conservatively and professionally as possible. A bowtie is "like a middle finger protruding from your neck," as Mr. Carlson noted so amusingly.
In the office, avoid it unless it is: a) your own shop, b) you are senior, your work product speaks for itself, and you are politically safe.
Outside of work, wear one at black tie or white tie events and rarely elsewhere. Know how to pull it off, and know if you can't pull it off.
I wore them through college and was known as the "bow tie guy," even within my fraternity.
I rock them all the time..... but then again I'm from Cincinnati ;)
In the workplace they scream that you're looking for attention in that "look at me, I'm wearing a bow tie" kind of way. Save them for the night out and leave them out of the office.
And be honest with yourself, like others said, can you pull off the bow tie? I personally love bow ties, but I think I look ridiculous wearing one. You have to make fashion work for you. ;-)
are you kidding?
how often do you get beat up? take some mma classes, for sure
Thanks hun
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Bowties - Do analysts wear them? (Originally Posted: 02/12/2011)
Do analysts wear them?
No.
Next question
How many bears could bear grylls grills if bear grylls could grill bears?
+1
For those of you who liked that, take a look at this:
http://i.imgur.com/3gfgVl.jpg
I am sure if you wear one you will get a lot of respect from everybody on your floor. trust me on this one (might be even better to also show up with a headset plugged into your ear the first day so you can handle your busy schedule more efficiently)
its basically required
Imagine showing up for your superday not wearing a bowtie? Wow you'd look like an ass.
Bowties are awesome. I wouldn't wear one to work. But to preppy social functions bowties are the shit.
Well I'm wearing one tonight for my Hundred Days til graduation dance and that's how the question came to me. Just simply out of curiousity
whatever you do, NEVER wear a clip-on
You see a lot of bow ties in Charlotte and Atlanta, don't wear one in NY.
Wearing a bow tie requires a huge set of balls - very hard to pull off and people better like you already, before you try it - can probably get away with it on a Friday in August
And analysts generally do not wear bow ties
I always wear mine with a pocket protector and suspenders.
i like to wear one with my money sign suspenders.
Although this is clearly a troll, I feel the need to give a serious answer for fear of someone actually reading this and thinking he should wear a bowtie to his first interview. So...
When in Rome, do as the Romans do. Unless you are banking in Buckingham Palace, keep the tuxedo and bowtie at home, and wear a regular suit and tie.
You've got to be 50+ to rock a bow tie to work otherwise you are relegated to weddings and other social happenings. If you're 22 and sporting a bow tie to work people might think you've switched teams.
I wear a bowtie on occasion. Let me tell you, if your goal is to pick up middle-aged men, WEAR A BOW TIE!
Bowtie is acceptable if accompanying chip n dales dancer cuffs and tight pants are being worn as well.
Are you wearing a tuxedo?
Are you playing Boss Tweed in your local church group's ill-advised performance of Gangs of New York?
Are you the septuagenarian headmaster of a private boys school?
If not, then you should not be wearing a bowtie.
I'd say this video applies to the bowtie
Yes, those that don't return FT afterwards usually do.
Bowtie in Bus-Casual Environment? (Originally Posted: 02/23/2015)
My firm wears business casual. Suit, minus tie and jacket business casual. (not khakis and polo).
Everyone walks around with the top button of their shirt undone.
Would it be inappropriate to wear a small bowtie every day? Would this be too "different" or considered arrogant?
I'm a junior level MO employee at a RE PE firm. The culture is pretty relaxed, though I do attend some meetings with higher-ups outside of my direct working group. These meetings are still business casual.
Thanks!
Are you from the south? I have no issues with bow ties and have worn them before...
Complicated question though as to weather they are business casual or not though. Probably a judgement call.
Is your office in Charleston?
Never wear a fucking bowtie because only a select few can pull it off and it isn't you.
you have to earn a bowtie, you don't fucking just wear one
LOL
Probably best to hold off on the bowtie until you're 50+... in my office you'd get so much shit for it, it would make your head spin.
Dont be "That guy" especially as a junior level. "That guy" always gets shit, and usually he does it to himself.
Last time I checked, Vogue didn't run an REPE firm, so no, distinguish yourself with your work, not shitty fashion.
Above the Mason-Dixon line is a clear no and in most places in the south, too. Currently living in a city in the south and I've yet to see a bowtie on anyone in banking or private equity. I've seen few lawyers and insurance guys wear them, though.
Maybe some southern bros could weigh in on this important topic....
Arrogant? No, more like idiotic. Remember, you are going into an environment where you need to be taken seriously. The key is to wear the clothes that make you look professional and are in line with the company culture.
You don't want to be know as that "guy". My advice would be to save the bow tie for the weekends.
No way I am pulling that shit unless my age starts with a 6.
Only if you want to look like this:
Let me guess the guys on Old Row or TFM said it was fratty right? Blend in man... Don't wear a bowtie if you're under the age of 50. Please don't.
Bow tie to interview (Originally Posted: 12/26/2010)
What are your thoughts on wearing a bow tie to an interview? Nothing too crazy, maybe small elephants/monkeys on a yellow bow or subtle stripes. Could be risky but could you look more like a "fratty" bro that way?
do it
Wasn't there a post on proper interview attire posted a while back? Maybe, I'll write something up later. Do NOT wear a bow tie.
Yeah Gekko, I resisted my urge to respond in anger, as this is the same poster who asked if it was appropriate to wear a black shirt and silver tie to an interview... he is clearly trolling, though his efforts are not humorous in their result
southernlovr, at first, I was like "why is this guy copying the earrings guy?" But now I think you just keep writing up these ridiculous questions until people stop responding.
Everyone: He's just trolling! I know you all missed the boat in his first thread, but this will make it quite clear...
D:
If you're going to troll, try to keep it funny.
"there's two M's" hahaha, great scene from a great movie
pamd like hand, lol
as long as it's wrapped around this 8]]]]]]]]]]]]]]D the HR girls will love you
unless ur Jim Rogers, dont do it. He is the only mofo in finance that can pull that sh!t off.
http://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2008/4/13/jim_rogers_13_04_2008_…
Chances for a second-tier to elbow the way up? (Originally Posted: 08/30/2012)
Ok, so I secured a full-time offer from a large Dutch bank in London, which I am not even sure it can be called as a second-tier. The divisions I will be joining are most likely to be structured finance, which is strong-ish at this bank. It involves one year trainee-ship and allows you to rotate among a few divisions. I consider myself lucky to get this offer since I have virtually no banking experience.
My question now is, what are the chances I can climb up for a prestigious IBank after, say, the first year experience here. I wouldnt mind whether it is a small one such as Moelis or Greenhill, as long as it is a PROPER IBank!
This has been bothering me for a long time. Really appreciate any advices/thoughts!
If someone says no are you going to up and quit?
Do your best at this trainee-ship then apply for 'proper' investment banks, and take what you can get. You'll never know if you don't try.
Thanks Extensity. I have been hesitating about an internship instead, but given the current market situation in London, somehow I feel a less-happy full time > insecurity. Just worried that I will get stuck here for a long while...
If you're in London and you're doing front office work, I don't see how you wouldn't be able to lateral to a BB should your heart desires.
Guess sometimes I just need someone else to tell me that is possible. Lack of self-confidence
Bowties - How many people wear them? (Originally Posted: 07/20/2012)
Just curious how many people bust them out on occasion to work or do you keep them to strictly formal events?
As a rule of thumb, to properly rock a bowtie you must have either: A) a PhD or B) a handlebar moustache
are you fucking serious..
I leave them to Tom Keene
Amended list of acceptable places and/or situations in my opinion:
*Prep school *Fraternity/sorority events *Tailgating at southern schools *Horse races (Kentucky Derby, Foxfield, etc) *Yuppie events in DC or Manhattan, probably a wine tasting or gallery opening (recent college grads, twenty-somethings) *On a Wednesday in Charleston, SC *If you're wearing a tux / black tie / or you're James Bond *If you're homosexual and pair it with a short sleeve button down and shorts *If you went to Oxbridge and/or you're in a literary society *If you're a hipster striking a cool pose for an instagram photo *If you're less than 5 years old or greater than 70 years old *If you're a GDI with gelled, spiked hair who just wants to look like a pimp (in this case it's a clip on, or you had someone else tie it for you)
lol well said, made me laugh
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