What's WSO's opinion on pitbulls?

Are you on the pitbulls are as bad as their owner treats them side or the pitbulls are genetically and statistically more likely to kill someone or someone's pet and should have no place in society and we should adopt the EU's muzzle over mouth law.

 
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Trash dogs & least prestigious - unless you spend 2.0x monthly income on jordans, wear a black wife beater daily, or have a tattoo of a rottweiler with a blinged out chain on your shoulder, I don't think you should have them.

They do not belong in society and are just ways for people to compensate for their small penises or lack of testosterone.

Go take a look @ that dog dynasty guy. Has an IQ comparable to a Lima bean. That is your peak idol if you have a pitbull. Nuff said.

 

Wow, honestly, this might arguably be the worst post ever on WSO. Why are you associating a specific kind of dog with a race? I have a pitbull and he is not a fighting dog nor is he violent. If you raise and treat a dog respectfully, they will grow up to be respectful. There are only bad owners, not bad dogs. To be straight up with you, you are definitely the kind of person who should never own a pet.

You probably couldn't even take care of a goldfish in a bowl.

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Instead of throwing Monkey sh*t, you're just stereotyping that pitbulls are terrible, owned and treated terribly by African-Americans, right? It's the truth and you don't want to accept it. Your comment or reply sounds completely racist.

Disclaimer, I own a pitbull and none of what knightbanker says doesn't apply to me.

P.S "So much for Batman for saving the day."

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I fall somewhere in the middle. All dogs are going to base some character off the owner's treatment. I have been around some pitbulls that turned out to be some of the sweetest dogs I've ever encountered.

The one negative thing I will say about them is that their jaws are naturally a lot stronger than other dogs. Therefore, even when they are playing and just nipping, they could do some damage.

 

can be cute!

gf works at a shelter and unfortunately there were many pitbulls. From what I hear, they can be very hard to "tame" and it takes a lot of work to build some trust, before she can take one for a walk. Once some trust is built, usually they are friendly, but often very stubborn too.

I assume they can be very nice dogs if trained right. Unfortunately at the shelter dogs are slightly older and sometimes adopting families return them as they don't have the patience to work with them, or if even minor incidents happen..

A Dutchman in London
 

Pitbulls are fine dogs. Not my favorite, but they're very lovable when raised right. Any dog raised to fight will end up being a bad dog. It's not the dog's fault if it's raised by a scumbag.

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There are two things to think of, physical design that they've been bred for and temperament.

Temperamentally, pit bulls are not more aggressive, but they are possessive of their owners, they will defend loyally to the death, which can cause problems. Other breeds (terriers and shih-tsus) can do the same and this in and of itself is not a huge issue.

Physically, they have been bred for bite strength, as they come out of the reprehensible act of dog fighting. Relative to other dogs even multiple times their size they bite HARD and are willing to hold on when most other breeds wouldn't.

While they can be awesome in the right circumstances with the right owner, these two are a bad combination. There are multiple situations where cops have had to put down a pit bull to let paramedics save an owner in the middle of a medical situation, because the dog wouldn't stand down out of loyalty. They are also ripe for manipulation by unsavory characters.

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Feels like every 10-15 years there's a "killer" breed. I remember it being German Shepherds when I was growing up in the 70's. Then there was a period of time where Dobermans were getting a ton of bad press, and then it was Rottweilers, now it's pit bulls.

I've been around a wide range of dogs my whole life [from huge Newfoundlands, German shepherds, mixed mutts, labradors, Rottweilers, small terriers and more] and the only one to ever bite me was an annoying as fuck little Pomeranian. Granted, it's only one anecdotal example, but the owners have done exactly ZERO to properly socialize or train that dog, which to me speaks volumes about the owners only being interested in owning something that looks cute and expensive.

To me, it's almost always the 2-footed human beasts that make "bad" dogs a true issue. If you don't train or socialize your dog, if you don't address its nature, if you neglect it, it's on you then... otherwise, 90% of the dog's behavior and instincts is simply it being and behaving as a dog.

 
Melody-Nicklin-laFollette:
That's a load of crap

In the 13-year period of 2005 to 2017, canines killed 433 Americans. Pit bulls contributed to 66% (284) of these deaths. Within this period, deaths attributed to pit bulls rose from 58% (2005 to 2010) to 71% (2011 to 2017), a 22% rise.1 [Table 2]

Today, when averaging the last 3 years (2015 to 2017), pit bulls comprise about 6.5% of the total U.S. dog population. This is a 63% rise since the 3-year period of 2010 to 2012 when the total U.S. pit bull population was estimated to be 4%.2

https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-multi-year-fatality-report…

 
 
Melody-Nicklin-laFollette:
That's a load of crap

Arguably, a large portion of this is adverse selection and conditioning.

I can promise you that there aren't many gangsta thugs out there training their shih-tsus miniature poodles or pomeranians to act as enforcement. (Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson may be an exception, but I don't think they're afraid of his pomeranian, Asterisk)

There is simply an unfortunately high ability of pitts to stand their grounds and fight for their owners, with an ability to win in such a situation. German shephards and dobermans are more built for speed than bulk. One on one either could either tire and possibly outfight a pitt, but all of them are faster than a person, and that unfortunately makes pitts a strong choice for those who prefer a dog as an enforcer.

The only difference between Asset Management and Investment Research is assets. I generally see somebody I know on TV on Bloomberg/CNBC etc. once or twice a week. This sounds cool, until I remind myself that I see somebody I know on ESPN five days a week.
 

i had a pitbull for 12 years from puppy to passing...it all depends on how they are raised...if they are raised in a house of love and discipline, then they are angels and safe to take care of young children. If not, then they have the potential to be deadly because of the strength of their jaws and emotional sensitivity.

you have to be smart to raise a pit-bull well....but if you are...then they are amazing dogs.

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People are going to say something about the owners being responsible for dogs' behavior. I like dogs, but the fact of the matter is, those dogs have notoriously strong jaws and are hard-wired to bite and refuse to let go. I always feel a little uncomfortable around them.

 

Pit bull owners have to be some of the most delusional people on the planet. A shitbull owner could have a PhD in statistics from MIT, but when shown stats proving that shitbulls are disproportionately involved in attacks and fatalities, especially of children, they'll rant and rave emotionally saying "but not my little Fluffy!! He's the sweetest and would never hurt a fly!"

 

I think a dog's demeanour is generally the product of their upbringing / environment. I don't care much for pitbulls (have always had labradors and golden retrievers myself), however I try not to judge people that do - I think the dog you choose to own is an incredibly personal choice and there's no right or wrong answer. That said, I am somewhat hesitant (i.e. err on the side of caution) when I do come across pitbulls simply because they do, sadly, have a reputation.

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I live in a somewhat "bad" neighborhood of NYC. Over the course of walking and jogging several pitbull owners have nearly let their dog bite me while not paying attention. One time I strongly criticized the owner and she let me hear it....... I am strongly against them tbh. Enough bad things have happened to me in life so I try to avoid risky things. These pitbulls along with their irresponsible owners have got to go

 

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