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Jan 6, 2022 - 3:16pm

I love the large American cars from the 60-70s. As Doug would put it, I love their quirkiness.

Favourite one would be the boattail Buick Riviera.

Not a dream car, though.

Jan 6, 2022 - 3:43pm

It's funny you mention the Ford GT. Doug DeMuro picked it out of the many cars he has driven. It must be good.

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Jan 6, 2022 - 3:47pm

My list is far from exhaustive, I could fill a page with the cars I want. 

I'd prefer to tear up the track in a Porsche, and have not sat in any other McLaren's yet. The 765LT looks to be the last hurrah of internal combustion, so I'd like to sit in or at least see one, but my GT experience was phenomenal.

Jan 7, 2022 - 1:32am

Hip 2 Da Game

Realistic in 3-5 years: M340i, Macan GTS, IS350, Golf R

Reach in 5-10 years: CT5-V Blackwing, 911 GT3 Touring, Alpina B7, S63 Coupe

Idealistic: McLaren GT, 911 GT2, 760Li

Your list is pretty close to mine. Right now I'm thinking of upgrading my 2014 328 to a 2018 Alpina B7.I'm also considering a 2022 RS3, 2018 Panamera or 2018 M5. If RS6s weren't super expensive, I'd buy one of those. 

Jan 6, 2022 - 3:57pm

Current: BMW X3 M40i (have a dog and travel a lot with the missus)

Realistic dream in the future: Still debating between Audi RS6, BMW X5/X6 (m50i or above) or Porsche Cayenne (S or above)

Not as realistic dream in the future : Porsche 911 Carrera 4S, Lexus LC500

Aspirational at best: Lexus LFA

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Jan 7, 2022 - 10:24am

Love it, easily the best in its segment if you're looking for a semi-sporty do-it-all vehicle. 

Avoided going full X3M as ride is quite harsh for normal driving and the real-world performance difference with the M40i is negligible. The B58 engine, as many have lauded, is indeed a gem, pulls quite hard low down and has strong power delivery up until very illegal speeds, doesn't sound too shabby either. 

The only other alternative I considered in the segment was the Macan, but comparably equipped, quite a price premium and is considerably less practical due to its size. Nothing really similar in offer by the Japanese or Americans, Q5 was dated in the interior, didn't like the esthetic of the GLC, GV70 was actually surprisingly good and great value for money, but performance was a bit... uneventful. 

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Jan 6, 2022 - 4:03pm

I realise I didn't actually answer my own question…

Here's a lengthy list in which I'll classify mine in three categories:

  1. The ultimate, ludicrous, money-not-a-factor car
  1. Current "budget", more normal car
  1. Somewhere in the middle of 1 and 2

For 1: The innovation and transparent passion behind Koenigsegg would top my list. Literally anything they make; I'll say the Regera as a single choice.

Also the Vector W8 is on my mind, but mostly because of the 80s coke Miami vibe. Oh, and it's literally a fighter jet on wheels.

The Chiron, also, with a truly timeless design. I love the bespoke nature and their 'Bugatti family' events.

This is getting long, but the Ferrari SP3. I really love the retro-modern style. And the F12 TDF, one of the prettiest cars IMO.

For 2: The Stinger GT has really grown on me. The bang for the buck is surprisingly high. Quality is outstanding and has a striking design to me. A little bit further out, I'd say the new E63s; I like the beefier more squared design, and the interior is one you could live in. Stunning, both of them.

For 3: I love "do-it-all cars". Bentley GT Speed would be one of them. Urus, although just a badged Audi, provides the Italian flare to an otherwise boring Q8.

765LT and Huracán Evo are my sportier choices.

Also, the 992TS is a beast. 991.2 really impressed me, I'm sure the updated gen would not disappoint.

These change often, and I think any car enthusiasts' list does.

Fuck the image cropping

I believe this more than adequately conveys my obsession with cars.

Jan 6, 2022 - 4:08pm

These paint jobs are horrific.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

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Jan 9, 2022 - 3:34am

You are the man I gotta say. I love the bucketing as that's how I think about this too as a huge car guy. 

Only addressing 1, I gotta say the Regera is amazing and I agree with your choice. Don't really care for the vector as the one-off manufacturers don't really get me excited with their ultra-limited run of models to be honest.

The Chiron was something special I have to say because aside from it being an incredible feat of automotive engineering, Bugatti simultaneously released their limited run models like La Voiture Noir, the centodieci (based on the EB110), and the Divo.

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Jan 6, 2022 - 4:17pm

Used to dream of a 911 turbo s but honestly don't think I'll ever buy a sports car. Was close to pulling trigger on C8 a while back but it's so low to the ground - would despise getting in/out. Also, visibility in lots of sports cars isn't the best.

I could easily see myself getting an RSQ8 when I have kids. M8 would be dope too as a toy, but I think I'd actually prefer the B8 by Alpina. G Wagons are great cars but I'm not the biggest fan of the aesthetic. Not the biggest fan of Bentley but the continental seems like a daily driver I would appreciate. A beast of a car and not "exotic" aka super low and impossible to get in/out.

Rolls Royce is the pinnacle of luxury but I think they look weird. Absolute perfection in terms of quality and construction but i think most people would agree that aesthetically they're weird and only are called beautiful because they're a Rolls Royce.

Basically I don't really have a dream car anymore. I've come to appreciate luxury and exotic cars more than just "wow they look cool" and love reading up on the construction of them.

Jan 6, 2022 - 4:19pm

RR has presence. That's where their beauty comes from. Their opulence; their undeniable presence.

I just hate rolls Royce bc of their outdated infotainments.

Then again, I just love gimmicks like those in Mercedes'.

Jan 8, 2022 - 9:45am

You just have to deal.  If you think a C8 is bad you wouldn't even want to think of my Miata.  (We'll save the stories about the 95 900 SS/CR for another day) 

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Jan 6, 2022 - 8:06pm

Using your own categories you've listed:

1. Pagani Zonda Cinque (or any Zonda really). They're not the fastest, most technically advanced, nor even the most badass- but I simply love them. I don't think there's another car that captures what a super car should be better than a Zonda. Other contenders: Ferrari F40, Enzo, Porsche CGT (what a beast), McLaren F1, 993 GT2.. as you can tell I like a little older era for this category.

2. I'm actually a fan of the Volvo XC90 and night get a used one when my current car dies. Used AMG Mercedes are super cool "bargains" if running costs were paid by someone else. 
 

3. I'm absolutely a car enthusiast and a goal car is either a 911 Turbo S or GT3. I feel like these are the absolute best cars you can get for their price. Unfortunately I am not capable of DDing either one (it could be done but I'd worry too much). I think DD would fall into category 2. 

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Jan 10, 2022 - 11:55am

Oh no way I didn't see he sold it. I knew they made one for him but that must be a tough car to sell. If I ever achieve billionaire status I'd get one in a heartbeat (I think). 

“The three most harmful addictions are heroin, carbohydrates, and a monthly salary.” - Nassim Taleb
Jan 6, 2022 - 9:09pm

I'm really into cars and have been lucky to attend the meet at the Malibu Country Mart lately. Have seen some insane cars like Koenigsegg Ageras, a Pagani Zonda, and tons of Lamborghinis. 

Using your own categories I would first go with a Koenigsegg CCX. Amazing engine and design. Beautiful car and it seems like a beast. Similar level cars I like are the Porsche Carrera GT and Pagani Zonda.

More reasonably I would love a Jaguar F Type SVR or Mercedes C63 AMG. Sound amazing I've loved hearing those I've seen in person. Maybe a Porsche Macan, those are awesome.

In between that I would go for a 997 generation Porsche 911. Seems like an amazing car. Could be tempted to pick up a Huracan or 720S at some point. I had the chance to ride in a Performante last year and it was insanely fast. Fastest car I've ever been in. 

Jan 12, 2022 - 4:15am

If you're in SoCal, keep tabs on when Manny Khoshbin brings his rides into meets. The guy really has some special vehicles including several special collabs with Bugatti / Hermes / Pagani / Rembrandt and isn't afraid of sharing these works of art with enthusiasts at meets etc.

Jan 6, 2022 - 11:07pm

911t or 911r, s60 polestar, and cayman 4.0 gts are on my radar.

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Jan 7, 2022 - 2:33am

5-10 years from now it will be any car that doesn't have a built in camera spying on me while I'm driving,  entertainment system that scrapes my text and call history, or a remote disabling switch. To anyone reading this and thinking WTF...? I live in the USA

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Jan 7, 2022 - 6:09am

It'll be tough to drag me from my miata, but a friend and I are talking about splitting the price of an Elise  (we do like 5k miles each)

The only difference between Asset Management and Investment Research is assets. I generally see somebody I know on TV on Bloomberg/CNBC etc. once or twice a week. This sounds cool, until I remind myself that I see somebody I know on ESPN five days a week.
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Jan 8, 2022 - 8:44pm

Elise is fun.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Jan 7, 2022 - 9:40am

Current Car: 2021 BMW 330i MSport

Goal for 2024 - Corvette C8 Z06

Goal for 2028 - Porsche 911 Turbo/ GT Varient

Goal for 2032 - Whatever the current Lambo/Ferrari offering is at that time

End Goal: Bugatti/Pagani/Koenigsegg/effectively a hypercar...

I am confident in myself to achieve this goals and hope all of you are able to get your dream cars as well.

A passion for cars is not something everyone understands...it can be something that goes beyond logic, it's driven by passion.

Jan 8, 2022 - 3:55pm

Nice list. But I hope you realize that for your next two you should probably get on those waiting lists now. It's going to take you about that long to get them. Especially the Z06. The C8 list is about 14 months right now and I expect the Z06 to be about the same. Given that it wont start production for a little bit, getting on the list now sounds about right for a 2024 MY.

Jan 9, 2022 - 9:38pm

Yeah, it's going to be a rough time trying to get that car. Will need to look into getting a slot. Got to look into the "E-Ray" as well. idk, thinking about it now, might try going for the E-Ray. The list is very idealistic with gas guzzling super low mpg cars but electric is the move. 

Jan 9, 2022 - 3:40am

I have to say, thank you for your last sentence. I have felt this way forever about cars and I'm glad to see you recognize it too. Cars are not something which are simply tools from point A to point B. They have the ability to evoke emotions and excitement like nothing else we as people have access to. Don't mean that to sound like a car commercial haha but I really do think they transcend just being simple transportation devices.

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Jan 9, 2022 - 9:31pm

I completely understand what you're saying. I really enjoy going to car meets and sunday drives. You get to meet great people and learn what people do in order to be able to buy their dream cars. 

Jan 7, 2022 - 10:43am

Current: 2015 Lexus IS350 F Sport

(Somewhat) obtainable dreams: S65 AMG final edition, R35 GTR

(Basically) Unattainable dreams: Lexus LFA, 1999-2001 Lamborghini Diablo SV

PSU Student. Goes to non-target disregard what he says.
Jan 7, 2022 - 10:44am

Not achieveable until 2040: AM One-77

Not achieveable till 2025: AM DBS 

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Jan 7, 2022 - 12:16pm

As many cars built with the express purpose of being cool, it's ugly, and pointless. Cool proof of concept, but stupid.

What thoughts could you possibly even have? It's a concept car that just changes colours

Jan 7, 2022 - 1:01pm

Ideally a '65 cobra for the beach and a classic fj land cruiser for the slopes. If I had to buy a car tomorrow, I'd get a lotus for fun or anything made by toyota for reliability/practicality.

Also, convertibles are vastly underrated. As rich the kid once said, "coulda bought a crib, bought a drop top"… there's something alluring about putting yourself in an open air rollercoaster for the down payment on a house.

Jan 7, 2022 - 4:26pm

For my daily driver, I'd easily have the Mercedes-Benz 600 Grosser, a black Pullman with a red leather interior and whitewall tires. Chauffeured, of course:

If I could have a car for cruising the Autobahn, I'd go with the Ferrari F40 Le Mans -- this one to be exact:

Why This Ferrari F40 LM Is Worth Every Penny Of Its $6 Million Price Tag | CarBuzz

For a little fun for the weekend, a Porsche 911 (964) Carrera RS 3.8L is just the right machine for me:

Would You Risk Crashing This $1.7 Million 911 RS 3.8 To Get Your Kicks? | Carscoops

And obviously, no list of classic dream machines would be complete without a Ferrari 250 GT, especially the Series I Pinin Farina Cabriolet of Prince "Dado" Ruspoli:

Prince's 1958 Ferrari 250 GT Pinin Farina Cabriolet at Gooding's Pebble Beach sale | Market and Auction News | Creative Digital Solutions | Racecar

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Jan 7, 2022 - 6:39pm

The near(ish)-term plan is to buy a 67 Pontiac GTO in the next few years. I'm a huge fan of older cars and have always loved the old GTOs. If I want to stretch in that category, a late 60s Yenko Camaro would be the choice. I could go down a rabbit hole of classic cars though, would love to have a garage full of them.

If we're going the egregious route for a car, I have to respect the Koenigsegg move. Personally, I'm a fan of the Agera RS but hard to go wrong with any of them. One that also has my attention is anything that Rimac is doing; some pretty interesting cars over there.

Jan 7, 2022 - 7:27pm

Lime Green Lambo

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Jan 8, 2022 - 12:51am

It's funny I used to want something bold and flashy like a 488 Pista or a 765LT. Now after owning a relatively flashy car I don't want the attention anymore and just want something more lowkey like a soccer mom car

Jan 8, 2022 - 1:58am

Man I love me some cars. 
 

69 Mach 1 428 CJ 

Boss 428 

Monster 70 GTO 

how about a cuda, charger, and challenger while we are at it. 

1990 ZR1 

Plymouth prowler 

Gen 1 viper 

lotus esprit 

laguna seca E46 M3 

gen 1 NSX

supra 

skyline 

vr4 

mystichrome cobra 

saleen fox body 

saleen s7 

Jaguar XJ220

F40, F50, and the rest of the halo cars Everyone mentions 

Venturi 400

pantera 

regular cab SRT10 

Beautiful design, low production, or iconic and you can get me interested. 
 

For domestic production cars, I'm a dodge fan  

Simply because I imagine their engineers were like "can we fit this viper motor into a single cab 6 speed truck? Fuck ya!" 
 

and now they are all "yo bob, do you think we can shove that hellcat motor into that minivan? Bob: hold my beer"  

Anyway, I've owned a lot of cars, but still a lifetime worth left to find drive and enjoy  

Jan 8, 2022 - 9:54am

Supra was a heavy pig (go a turbo RX-7) and the XJ220 was the worst of the 90s supercars.  I like the rest though.

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Jan 8, 2022 - 10:00am

Whatever1984

Supra was a heavy pig (go a turbo RX-7) and the XJ220 was the worst of the 90s supercars.  I like the rest though.

Agreed. I have an Rx-7 so forgot that one. 
 

The XJ220 fills a bug nostalgia point. I had one of those pull back diecast XJ220s that you could race across the floor as a kid. Also had a big poster of one on my wall in the late 90s. 
 

And to me, it's a beautiful design with an oddball place in car history. (like the prowler to a lesser extent...a lot of people hate it but I love it) I also tend to think they are underpriced. (Odd thing to say about something that cost $~400k). 
 

I saw a beautiful F40 in a private collection last weekend. I have a whole lot of want on that. 

Jan 8, 2022 - 5:57am

Dream Classics:

Ferrari 308gts

1969 Camaro SS

Plymouth Super bird

Ferrari F40

Lancia Stratos

Dream Modern Cars:

Aston One 77

Pagani Zonda Cinque Roadster

Lamborghini Veneno

Achievable cars:

Aston Martin Vantage

Lambo Huracan

Porsche Turbo S

M3 (pass on the ungodly front grills, prob go for older editions)

Used Supra/GT-R as a weekend track thrasher

I've forgotten a bunch prob but damn, it's these lists that motivate you to go to work everyday lol

Jan 8, 2022 - 2:07pm

 Any true enthusiast knows how challenging this question is. I have spent hundreds (if not thousands) of hours learning about different cars, and have gotten pretty deep into the car scene. I still couldn't come close to answering you question, but below is a "college-try" attempt. Keep in mind this is a truly "dream" scenario, and I dont see myself ever owning any of these cars. 

If price were no issue, I would probably want three cars; one to track, one to rip as a daily (performance focused), and one to daily (liesure / experience). 

Daily (leisure / experience): 1968 Chevelle. I am not certain this would be my pick, but as I kid I detailed one that sold for around $200k (or so the owner told me, I never verified). In hindsight I think he was inflating the price a bit, but regardless it was in pristine condition with under 20k miles on it. Washing the car and detailing it was such an enjoyable experience, and I couldn't imagine what it would be like to own such an insanely unique functioning piece of art. I am a sucker for a V8, and this would be hard to pass up. 

Daily (performance focused): 2012 Lexus LFA. Like most of my car takes, this is an unoriginal opinion. As one of the most idolized cars ever manufactured, the LFA has such a crispy sounding NA v10. The engine noise alone is something I dream about. I would likely mod the fuck out of this car, and would start with the exhaust. I know so little about what options are out there for these cars that I cant be more specific.  

Track Car: Despite watching almost every car I can think of being tracked, I still dont have a standout favorite. Therefore, like most finance folks, I would turn to the numbers. Im not a fan of the #1 and #2 nurburgring record holders (Porsche 919 and VW ID R) , so I would cheat and list two options for this category, the P1 and the SVJ. The SVJ is one of the most beautiful cars Ive ever seen, and the driving experience is supposed to be the best Lamborghini has to offer. On the other hand, the P1 is the P1, and its performance really speaks for itself (and has a better time than the SVJ). Gun to my head, I would pick the SVJ, because I think it is just simply to elegant not to pull the trigger on. 

Honorary mention: they make an 1M with an S65 (cant remember who manufacturers these, but I believe they are UK based). Link here. This would be a perfect drifters car and would likely be pretty squirrely. 

Current Garage: I am pretty content with my E92 M3. I would ideally hold on to this one forever and put a lot of work into it in order to make it a perfect track / street car hybrid. Havent done much yet aside from install a CF roof, AFE air intake, fixed up the engine (new rod bearings), replaced both throttle break actuators, and purchased some ARC 8 rims for it. 

Future Plans for the M3: The real work will start soon when I supercharge it, install a custom exhaust, test pipes, tune the DCT, tune the engine, and order a bunch of carbon fiber aesthetic parts like a front lip, side skirts, and a diffuser (maybe even a hood and or trunk). 

Jan 8, 2022 - 2:30pm

I used to be really into fast cars but realized there is really no point cuz the speed limit. 
 

Now the list is something comfortable - Range Rover, Rolls Royce, maybe Rivian

Jan 8, 2022 - 3:53pm

Right now my list consists of anything I can get without some ridiculous 12+ month wait list! I'm in the market for a new sportscar like a C8 or a 911 but both of those are basically impossible right now. Even an Escalade (which I've always wanted) is either 6 months or some stupid dealer ADM added to the cost. 

So, as much as it sucks, my current plan is to keep saving and wait for the madness to die down (economic crash?) and finally buy a 911. 

Jan 8, 2022 - 5:37pm

My friend it sounds like you need some schooling on the corvette market! Start by calling those listings and tell them you want to pay MSRP :)

Theres 3 big dealers in the US that do not charge MSRP on custom orders. One of them publishes their waiting list and you'd be number 14xx if you signed up today. They get 100+ allocations from GM each month. So you can roughly estimate when you will see your car. Same list exists for Z06 but that one is variable since deliveries are still to come. 
 

if that sounds crazy keep in mind that it's still better than Porsche. I gave up on Porsche because you have zero visibility. Your name just goes into the "ether" and you hope and pay for an allocation. 

Jan 8, 2022 - 4:50pm

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