Which bank/group is the frattiest?
Which bank/group is the frattiest?
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My friend interned in Barclays' Power Group this summer--said it was a total frat-fest, but loved it.
its interesting, I think Lehman paid great emphasis on looks, as all the people I knew at the firm were tall and good looking lol
Which office are you talking about?
I know a couple lanky asians from Lehman's NY office(Now Barclays) who are definitely not the spitting images of tall and good looking.
This thread is pretty funny..
but anyways, try looking up barrington associates. 95% of their guys are either ex-athletes or frat guys.
well i should be more clear, "all the people I knew" consists of 2 analysts, both from the NY office.
and didn't barrington get acquired by well fargo securities or something
Bear used to be..
Barclays power isn't a good group anymore, all the senior MD's left for citi as well as their clients.
I would say hands down the frattiest group is the old Lehman Natty Res office in Houston, now under Barclays. Lot of UT kids, a ton of fun, and the best (upstream) natty res group on the street.
yeah I would say old Lehman (circa 2000-8)...
Anyone else?
based on the guys they took from my class at Penn (they took 4-5 guys from the same frat) - they still have a lot of the drexel culture lingering....there are some great stories about richie handler out there
damn i wish lehman was still around, and i was a lehman lol
dont worry wherever you go i am sure you will find a couple of good looking frat studs. seriously this is the gayest thread in WSO history. not that there is anything wrong with that. And BTW all the banks are basically the same regardless of what u read...u will find frat guys, lanky asians, etc. everywhere. Certain groups take on the personality of the guys/gals running them, but you arent ging to be able to figure that out until you get there and even then prob not until after u start working with them.
my desk was basically Entourage.
"Oh the ladies ever tell you that you look like a fucking optical illusion" - Frank Slaughtery 25th Hour.
What investment banks (or IBD teams) are the frattiest? (Originally Posted: 11/01/2014)
I'm about to get a bunch of offers lined up but IDK who to pick. I'm going to start off with salary, then the culture of the team. Does anybody have the tiers for the fratty banks?
All BB banks are fratty: they're filled with laxers who were either in their school's athlete frat, or schools lacking frats at which sports teams are the equivalent.
Honestly tho, I hope u haven't posted anything identifying about yourself.
Don't start off with salary, culture is far more important
Piraeus Bank
I would be happy to try to answer this question for you, OP, but I have no idea what you mean when you say "fratty." That can mean a lot of different things.
Do you mean which banks have office case races? Hopefully none. Do you mean which banks have a culture of hazing, or branding their logo onto analysts' arms?
I've heard San Francisco tech geeks use "fratty" as a pejorative to describe smart, educated guys who work in anything other than tech. The connotation really depends on your background and experiences.
Do you mean fratty like Sigma Chi @ USC in 2014 or like Theos @ UPenn in 2004..etc. Can't help you without a working definition.
Whatever your definition, no banks are particularly frat-like. They're politically correct, full of women and geeks, and much lighter on lacrosse players (as a %) than they were in 2006.
Yale DKE runs GS.
Yale DKE runs the entire county. They have both George Bushes, and god knows who else as alum
I'd argue that S&T is probably more "fratty" since there is more personal interaction, and stuff going on day to day, taking clients out etc. That's my impression from my network of friends/contacts, compared to IBD.
When I mean, I'm talking about top tier Southern frat bros. check out TFM to know what I'm talking about.
you're looking for insurance sales, possibly PWM. Would check out northwestern mutual if you haven't already.
Hey reformed what are you talking about? Insurance and PWM are for GDIs. I'm a top tier fratter.
If your frat was actually top tier, you'd have alumni you could join and work at their banks for, you fucking pledge.
My FRATERNITY helped me get the offers in the first place but IDK which one to pick.
Even in the most liberal places, there are still a lot of Greeks (60%-70%of a given team). But if you're looking for 80%+ Fratty team look at any bank in Texas (oil, gas, and energy), Atlanta (STRH), or any bank in the South (Stifel, Raymond James, etc.)
Frattiest Bank in the Game? (Originally Posted: 11/16/2012)
I know that Lehman had to the reputation of being a frathouse - rank current investment banks by frattiness (not a troll - looking for insights into culture). Thanks.
FBR has to be up there
if FBR was a frat, it would be for the fat dudes that can't get girls and socially awkward
Also Stephens
I heard Jefferies was pretty fratty.
It's not referred to as Friends, Brothers and Relatives for nothing. It is like a Southern Frat House.
FBR is up there. McColl Partners. the former Wachovia tem was pretty fratty. also BB&T
who is the least fratty/most reserved/nerdiest?
actually fuck it, who gets picked on the most?
J.T. Marlin Jackson Steinem Churchill Schwartz Keller Zabel
You have some very awesome posts. I lol'd.
Frattiest CEO / Managing Partner on Wall Street (Originally Posted: 04/14/2007)
Discuss.
I'd have to go with John Cayne he is a true frat guy. Always smoking cigars and playing golf.
There are plenty of people who play golf and smoke cigars who aren't/weren't in a frat. The whole concept of being 'fratty' is a joke. The kids at shitty schools like Alabama think that pastel colors, boat shoes, etc. = 'dressing fratty.'
That is incorrect; the look that they call 'fratty' is really the new england prep look, and they try to mimic that image so that they are associated with a higher class than their own.
Wow, I think someone has some built up animosity. I wouldn't go that far and lump us all into the same category. While there are some that think they are better than others just because they are in a fraternity its not the case for everyone. Seeing that you proposed a stereotype I'll go ahead and do you. You are a possible combination of three things: 1)A kid with little to zero social skills that on bid day didn't get one and therefore hated on fraternities for the rest of college 2)Spent college pissed off that they got all the hot girls while you beat off, said all they did was blow down lines, and of course pay for their friends. 3)Are a fucking GDI(actually, we already know this.
Don't preach about class, anyone who does doesn't have any.
bump
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im more curious on which MDs listen to 2chainz and French Montana #turnt
Your mom
we should kick all the southerners out of this forum
frattiest bank in london? (Originally Posted: 01/24/2007)
i'm looking at a few positions at banks in london and i was wondering if anyone knows which banks are the frattiest over there? is there any prevalence of american frat guys over on the other side of the pond? if not, are there are at least a few banks with old money british guys who'd possibly be frat material if they came over the US?
If you mean places like Thomas Weisel Brokers then yes. Heard you guys are mandated on a couple M&A deals, one being the Mcdonald's in Jersey the other a 7-11 in El Paso.
Too bad Coldwell Banker didn't value them right or you would have had a great lucite like the co-managed $12 million IPO offering.
i don't work at Thomas Weisel. i don't get what your beef is with that firm anyway.
I just chose it at random, I coulda used SG Cowen, Piper or whoever else in lower middle market. I just think they're funny because the analysts there think they roll.
ok to clarify i am only looking at bulge brackets. if anyone knows which the frattiest one is let me know. i don't want to waste my time interviewing with a bunch of guidos and coloreds.
i agree, the pjc and cowen kids are obnoxious at times. i learned what "ghost riding" is from one of them. ohhh... another place where the associates/analysts think they roll is jmp securities. now talk about drunks.
Why don't you just flat out say the whitest bank instead of using the word fratty ?
Not every white man is fratty.
douchey. I was in a frat and i don't care if people are fratty. If they are cool, work hard, like to drink and have fun who cares?
what if they don't like to drink and have fun though? what if they have no fratty stories to share about their college years and only a bunch of stories about burying themselves in the library. not frat.
most banks have people you'll click with, you'll know who is who at training.
yeah i heard training is fratty as shit.
Deutsche Bank
this thread is retarded. it doesn't matter. you'll get along with whoever you like. if you work hard, like beer or vodka or whatever your poision of choice, you'll be fine + even if you don't drink there's even a spot for you.
Barclays NattWest (National Westminster) Lloyds Fidility HSCB
Last but not least, Bank of England. :)
Please don't come to London. You are the type of American that I try not to be associated with while I'm over here.
There is no "fratty" culture in Britain. Drinking is a national pasttime. Also the real blue-blooded posh guys don't usually go into banking. And yes, as relinquo mentioned, there is European-wide recruiting for London and there are lots of "foreigners" in the offices. At UBS off the top of my head I know an African-American, two Nigerians, an Arab, and a German (those are the only people I know!) LSE is an extremely multiethnic university and it places a lot of graduates in banking in London as well.
Basically, you should be looking at banking jobs in Chicago if you don't want diversity. You'll never make it in London, which is in my opinion more diverse than New York.
what are the frattiest/least minority infested banks in chicago?
also, do people even do keg stands in london?
ABN AMRO Amsterdam - everyone's there from the same fraternity and 99% are Dutch from top to bottom (even though it's their 'global' headquarters for ibanking). So in this case, i don't think you would fit in, cause you'd be the 'non-white'.
But... worth a shot
i heard Bear Stearns in chicago is fratty as shit can anyone verify?
Oh, and patekphillipe, you'll be in for a surprise in London. The beer that you consider the shit in your frats (Bud Light, Miller Lite, Coors Lite) is considered piss there. Well, maybe because it does taste like it...
Uh, my frat brothers drink Natty and Pabst, Bud and Miller are reserved for the sorostitutes.
patek: something is seriously wrong with you. you may in fact be gay. seek help. everything about you reeks of "atrocious douche."
What investment banks (or IBD teams) are the frattiest? (Originally Posted: 11/01/2014)
I'm about to get a bunch of offers lined up but IDK who to pick. I'm going to start off with salary, then the culture of the team. Does anybody have the tiers for the fratty banks?
Frattiest Bank in the Game? (Originally Posted: 11/16/2012)
I know that Lehman had to the reputation of being a frathouse - rank current investment banks by frattiness (not a troll - looking for insights into culture). Thanks.
Frattiest CEO / Managing Partner on Wall Street (Originally Posted: 04/14/2007)
Discuss.
I'd have to go with John Cayne he is a true frat guy. Always smoking cigars and playing golf.
frattiest bank in london? (Originally Posted: 01/24/2007)
i'm looking at a few positions at banks in london and i was wondering if anyone knows which banks are the frattiest over there? is there any prevalence of american frat guys over on the other side of the pond? if not, are there are at least a few banks with old money british guys who'd possibly be frat material if they came over the US?
Frat Bracket Banks: Which banks are frat? (Originally Posted: 11/15/2014)
We all know investment banks are full of fraternity guys but let's rank them by tiers.
used the search function....second option.
used the search function....second option.
I'm more interested in which IBs have the fattest guys. The fattest banker fat cats, if you will.
Can we get a ranking by mean and median BMI?
Living in NYC, one of the most liberal cities in America, is NF so any NY IBD Job is NF.
However, Texas is FAF so I guess any bank with a big Equities in Dallas group would be the most Frat.
Goldman Sachs is FaF
Hi GDIs haha
You're an embarrassment to greeks. Have you ever set foot in a financial services office?
Bear Stearns
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